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00:00:30karen: Ohioans finally get to
00:00:32vote on the presidential
00:00:34contest, and other races on
00:00:36the ballot.
00:00:36And both parties are hoping
00:00:39for support from two critical
00:00:41demographics.
00:00:41We'll hear what's important to
00:00:43millennials and African
00:00:45American voters.
00:00:45All this week in "The State of
00:00:48Ohio."
00:00:49This pre-primary week has been
00:00:51a busy one.
00:00:53Gov. John Kasich came back to
00:00:55Ohio to watch the results of
00:00:58the Michigan primary on
00:00:59Tuesday, promising again he'll
00:01:01win his home state and the 66
00:01:04winner-take-all delegates the
00:01:05Victor will get.
00:01:07Polls have shown support for
00:01:09Kasich is rising against
00:01:10frontrunner Donald Trump, who
00:01:12planned visits throughout Ohio
00:01:14this weekend.
00:01:15On the Democratic side, the
00:01:17surprise win by Bernie Sanders
00:01:19in Michigan energized his
00:01:21campaign and may have
00:01:22surprised Hillary Clinton's.
00:01:24Both are slated for the Ohio
00:01:26Democratic Party's Legacy
00:01:27Dinner on Sunday, which
00:01:29they'll follow with a CNN town
00:01:32hall on the Ohio State campus.
00:01:34Sanders spoke with Ohio Public
00:01:36Radio and Television's Andy
00:01:38Chow this week, talking about
00:01:40his strategy to draw attention
00:01:42to his plans to crack down on
00:01:45trade deals.
00:01:46Mr. Sanders: When you see
00:01:48factories shut down,
00:01:49communities decimated.
00:01:50You see people who used to
00:01:53make middle class wages now
00:01:55working at McDonald's or
00:01:57Burger King for starvation
00:01:58wages -- yeah I do believe
00:02:01that will impact the people.
00:02:03Karen: Hillary Clinton sent a
00:02:05surrogate, former president
00:02:06Bill Clinton, who scheduled
00:02:08stops in Columbus, followed by
00:02:10visits to Chillicothe and
00:02:12Dayton.
00:02:12Most of the attention on the
00:02:15Ohio primary has been focused
00:02:17on the presidential candidates
00:02:19and on the US Senate
00:02:21candidates.
00:02:21I spoke to the two leading
00:02:24Democrats in that race last
00:02:26week on this show.
00:02:28But there are other big races.
00:02:30for instance, all 16 members
00:02:32of Congress.
00:02:33However, there are no
00:02:35primaries in six districts,
00:02:37and Republican Reps. Bob Latta
00:02:39of Bowling Green and Bill
00:02:41Johnson of Marietta are
00:02:43running uncontested with no
00:02:44Democratic opponents this
00:02:45fall.
00:02:46Contests with three Republican
00:02:48incumbents -- Brad Wenstrup of
00:02:50Cincinnati, Bob Gibbs of
00:02:51Ashland and David Joyce of
00:02:54Painesville -- are among the
00:02:56five Republican primaries for
00:02:57Congress.
00:02:58That includes the
00:02:5915-Republican contest in the
00:03:01district that was represented
00:03:03by former House Speaker John
00:03:05Boehner.
00:03:05There are eight Democratic
00:03:07primaries on the ballot,
00:03:08including one involving
00:03:10incumbent Tim Ryan of Warren.
00:03:12The entire Ohio House of
00:03:14Representatives is on the
00:03:16ballot as well.
00:03:17and there's no primary in 63
00:03:19of the 99 races.
00:03:21And in 14 of those, the
00:03:24winners will win the November
00:03:26election because they have no
00:03:28opponents.
00:03:28There are 16 Republican
00:03:30primaries, six of which
00:03:32involve incumbents, and 20
00:03:33Democratic primaries, which
00:03:35also involve six incumbents.
00:03:36In the Ohio Senate, there are
00:03:39no primaries in nine
00:03:41districts, with Republicans
00:03:42Sens.
00:03:42Troy Balderson of Zanesville
00:03:44and Dave Burke of Marysville
00:03:46running uncontested with no
00:03:48Democratic opponent this fall.
00:03:50There are Republican and
00:03:51Democratic primaries in two
00:03:53districts, and Republican
00:03:54primaries only in six
00:03:56districts. As the Ohio primary
00:03:58looms closer, the campaigns of
00:04:00the candidates for president
00:04:02are stepping up their get out
00:04:04the vote efforts on the phone
00:04:07and in person, trying to
00:04:09motivate their voters.
00:04:10There are two key demographics
00:04:13in which both parties would
00:04:15love to find support -- one of
00:04:18them is millennial voters, the
00:04:20under-30 crowd who played a
00:04:22huge role in the last two
00:04:24presidential elections.
00:04:25This week I was pleased to
00:04:28speak with two of them.
00:04:30Jen House is with the Ohio
00:04:32Young Democrats.
00:04:33Christian Pancake is the
00:04:35chairman of the Ohio College
00:04:37Republican Federation.
00:04:38He joined us via the studios
00:04:41of Western Reserve Public
00:04:42Media/WNEO in Kent.
00:04:43I asked them about the issues
00:04:46millennials identify as their
00:04:48top concerns, such as good
00:04:50jobs, college debt, housing
00:04:52prices, climate change, race
00:04:53relations and social issues
00:04:55such as same-sex marriage.
00:04:57There is millennial's support
00:04:58them because of student debt
00:05:01and college cost.
00:05:02Do they expect to be given
00:05:04these things by a government?
00:05:06let me ask you, what is your
00:05:09experience and have you
00:05:11address that?
00:05:12Jen: so I graduated college
00:05:14seven years ago.
00:05:15I never expected anybody to
00:05:17hand me anything.
00:05:19I think all of us as young
00:05:22people, whether you just
00:05:23graduated or are in college,
00:05:26the cost of twist and has been
00:05:29rising at a rate higher than
00:05:31if my parents tried to go to
00:05:34school and inflation has been
00:05:36part of that.
00:05:37Colleges and universities are
00:05:39stacking on fees.
00:05:40It is no longer possible for
00:05:43someone to work a job and have
00:05:46their college paid off when
00:05:48they graduate.
00:05:49What millennial voters who are
00:05:51flocking toward candidates
00:05:52like Hillary Clinton and
00:05:54Bernie Sanders are saying we
00:05:56are willing to do the work and
00:05:59put in the effort.
00:06:01We need some help from the
00:06:03government to say let's figure
00:06:05out what we can do to make it
00:06:09more affordable or make the
00:06:11loans so they are not such a
00:06:14huge chunk of your income you
00:06:16make when you are out of
00:06:19college.
00:06:19A lot of my peers are
00:06:22struggling because their
00:06:23payments are so high and their
00:06:26first job, they are not making
00:06:28much money.
00:06:29It can be a huge part of your
00:06:33income to pay back those
00:06:35loans.
00:06:35Karen: let me turn to
00:06:37Christian.
00:06:38You are in college.
00:06:39Do you find a lot of your
00:06:42peers are supporting
00:06:44candidates they feel will give
00:06:46them more of an opportunity to
00:06:48do with student debt?
00:06:50how do deal with them in terms
00:06:53of Republican candidates when
00:06:55you have Bernie Sanders and
00:06:57Hillary Clinton?
00:06:58Christian: if you look around
00:07:00campuses, you have a lot of
00:07:02supporters of Bernie Sanders
00:07:04who is offering free college
00:07:06for everyone.
00:07:07Free college is not free.
00:07:09That's a lesson they need to
00:07:12understand.
00:07:12That price is going somewhere.
00:07:14The colleges aren't charging
00:07:16people anymore.
00:07:17It is shifting to the
00:07:19taxpayers, which will be
00:07:21hurtful to the economy and
00:07:23probably hurt millennials in
00:07:24the long run because you will
00:07:27see the job market lower and
00:07:29they won't be able to find a
00:07:32job and so on.
00:07:34Trying to explain that process
00:07:36is important and then
00:07:38explaining Republicans have
00:07:39the right ideas and have the
00:07:42right vision for what we are
00:07:44going to do about college
00:07:46affordability and issues like
00:07:48that.
00:07:49Governor kasich has tried to
00:07:51tackle back here, bringing in
00:07:53university officials and so on
00:07:55that have come together to
00:07:57solve this issue.
00:07:58I think we do have solutions
00:08:01and it is hard sometimes for
00:08:03them to see that.
00:08:05We definitely have solutions
00:08:07in the Republican Party.
00:08:09Karen: Christian, millennials
00:08:10voted for President Obama
00:08:12overwhelmingly.
00:08:12Where is an impression they
00:08:14are left Linning.
00:08:15If not, because they are
00:08:17privileged or bigoted or
00:08:19closed minded.
00:08:20What is your experience?
00:08:22Christian: I will start by
00:08:24saying I think most college
00:08:26Republicans idea with were not
00:08:28born with a silver spoon in
00:08:31our mouth.
00:08:31I understand that is the
00:08:34stigma.
00:08:34That is difficult to deal with
00:08:37on a college campus.
00:08:38Yes, college campuses seem to
00:08:40be left leaning.
00:08:42There will be twice as meaning
00:08:44at the Democrat meeting.
00:08:46I think our job in what we do
00:08:49is try to educate voters.
00:08:51We are the party, we are
00:08:54trying to be the party of the
00:08:57big tent, the all-inclusive.
00:08:59We have solutions for
00:09:00everyone.
00:09:01We are trying to achieve the
00:09:03same goal.
00:09:04We believe in the free market,
00:09:07smaller government, lower
00:09:08taxes and that is how we get
00:09:11to the end result as opposed
00:09:13to bigger government, higher
00:09:15taxes and more intrusive
00:09:17regulations.
00:09:17Karen: it seems like
00:09:19millennials are very engaged
00:09:21on social media.
00:09:22There is talk about what is
00:09:24happening politically.
00:09:25When it comes down to it, they
00:09:28don't vote in the big numbers
00:09:31one would think they would.
00:09:33It lets me start with you, our
00:09:36millennials going to vote?
00:09:38Jen: historically young people
00:09:39have never voted at high
00:09:41levels and so I don't think
00:09:44it's fair to single out our
00:09:47generation and say they don't
00:09:49vote when baby boomers did not
00:09:51vote when they were young.
00:09:53When you look at those
00:09:55numbers, as I said, President
00:09:58Obama was reelected by young
00:10:00people in Ohio.
00:10:01We had 50% turnout in 2008 and
00:10:042012.
00:10:04Millennials in Ohio do vote
00:10:06and vote for Democrats and
00:10:09hopefully we will deliver Ohio
00:10:11for whoever the nominee is.
00:10:13I would say I saw a survey a
00:10:16couple of weeks ago put out by
00:10:19some researchers that looked
00:10:21at states where millennials
00:10:23can have an impact, things
00:10:25like, is it a swing states,
00:10:27how many people have attended
00:10:29or are attending college.
00:10:31They listed Ohio as one of the
00:10:34top five states millennials
00:10:36could swing the vote.
00:10:37So I think you are going to
00:10:40see our candidates coming to
00:10:43Ohio and speak to our
00:10:45generation and I think they
00:10:47will react to that.
00:10:48Karen: Christian, let me ask
00:10:51you, why don't more
00:10:52millennials vote?
00:10:53you have a special challenge
00:10:55in trying to get conservative
00:10:57millennials.
00:10:58Why aren't conservative
00:10:59millennials voting more?
00:11:00Christian: backing up to what
00:11:02jen said, young people
00:11:04historically do not vote.
00:11:06Over the last few election
00:11:08cycles, it has been trending
00:11:10upward.
00:11:11So every year we had more and
00:11:14more percent of the electorate
00:11:16be from the 18-30 generation,
00:11:18that demographic.
00:11:19Hopefully that continues to
00:11:20grow.
00:11:21It is our job to continue to
00:11:24push to get people out to vote
00:11:27and explain the importance of
00:11:29why they are voting.
00:11:30That is what we try to do
00:11:33every day.
00:11:34A lot of the times I say, vote
00:11:38for a Republican because we
00:11:40have the right solutions to
00:11:42the issues.
00:11:43I would like to vote, even for
00:11:46a Democrat, because voting is
00:11:48important.
00:11:48The encouragement of people
00:11:50getting to the polls as a
00:11:53millennial generation, college
00:11:54students, is important.
00:11:55Continuing to work on that as
00:11:58a youth oriented group is also
00:12:00probably one of the most
00:12:02important things we do outside
00:12:04of trying to get a Republican
00:12:07elected.
00:12:07Karen: Another important block
00:12:09of voters is African
00:12:11Americans.
00:12:11And I talked with two
00:12:13important figures from that
00:12:15group as well.
00:12:16Sam Gresham was the president
00:12:18and CEO of the Columbus Urban
00:12:21League for two decades.
00:12:23He's now with Common Cause
00:12:25Ohio.
00:12:25He says this presidential
00:12:27election year as the potential
00:12:29to be as transformative as the
00:12:32last two elections, in which a
00:12:34black president was elected
00:12:36and re-elected -- but says
00:12:38he's wondering why electing
00:12:40the first woman president
00:12:41hasn't caught fire with
00:12:43Democrats.
00:12:43Clarence Mingo is an attorney
00:12:46who worked for the Legal Aid
00:12:48Society of Columbus.
00:12:49he's now the Republican
00:12:51auditor for Franklin County.
00:12:53He's spoken out strongly
00:12:54against Donald Trump for three
00:12:57reasons: as a Gulf War
00:12:59veteran, because of Trump's
00:13:00comments about former GOP
00:13:02nominee and Sen. John McCain's
00:13:04war record, as a person living
00:13:07with Parkinson's because of
00:13:09Trump's imitation of a person
00:13:11with a disability, and as an
00:13:13African American, because of
00:13:15Trump's hesitation in
00:13:16denouncing endorsements and
00:13:17support he's received from
00:13:19white supremacist groups and
00:13:21leaders.
00:13:21But we ended up talking about
00:13:24much more than the
00:13:26presidential candidates.
00:13:26Karen: the Republican Party,
00:13:28outside of Donald Trump, has
00:13:30Hispanic candidates and John
00:13:32Kasich has been talking about
00:13:34issues related to people in
00:13:36the shadows.
00:13:37He talked about his police
00:13:39community relations.
00:13:40>> I think Barack Obama cast a
00:13:43tall shadow when it comes to
00:13:45the perceptions of
00:13:47African-Americans.
00:13:47The Democrats are safe from
00:13:49that standpoint, having the
00:13:51first African-American
00:13:52president.
00:13:52What interests me is the same
00:13:55imagery of the first
00:13:56African-American, I mean the
00:13:58first female has not caught
00:14:00fire like Barack Obama.
00:14:02I can't understand what is the
00:14:05demo erratic -- Democratic
00:14:06party waiting on.
00:14:08This is something new.
00:14:09It has not caught on.
00:14:11Karen: Alicia Reece of
00:14:13Cincinnati delivered the State
00:14:15of Black Ohio, talking about
00:14:17the criminal justice system,
00:14:19the unemployment rate,
00:14:20education, are those the
00:14:22issues you are hearing about
00:14:24from people you know with
00:14:26regard to how people will vote
00:14:28in the primary?
00:14:30>> when you look in the
00:14:32African-American community,
00:14:33those are concerning
00:14:34African-Americans and there is
00:14:36space for every Republican
00:14:38candidate to pick up on those
00:14:40issues and outline policies
00:14:42that will make a difference.
00:14:44A lot of times when you have
00:14:47candidates talking about what
00:14:49is affecting the community,
00:14:50they are talking from the
00:14:52highest level and it does not
00:14:55drill down and you with the
00:14:58individual who can't get a job
00:15:00but otherwise is interested in
00:15:02reforming.
00:15:03They don't talk about that
00:15:05young African-American man who
00:15:07has done everything right and
00:15:09can't get a job on Wall
00:15:11Street.
00:15:12We need our candidates to
00:15:14really speak to those issues.
00:15:16The only one that has done
00:15:18that so far has been John
00:15:21Kasich.
00:15:21I have not heard that from
00:15:24cruz, Rubio, nothing from
00:15:26Donald Trump.
00:15:26John Kasich has been attacked
00:15:29by conservative Republicans
00:15:30for picking up those issues.
00:15:32There is space for that.
00:15:34>> the one issue, criminal
00:15:36justice, education, income,
00:15:37they don't talk about
00:15:39training.
00:15:40That is where the rubber meets
00:15:42the road.
00:15:43People getting jobs.
00:15:44Right now what is happening,
00:15:46so many lack people are
00:15:49discriminated against.
00:15:49Employment opportunities, most
00:15:51of the systems are not able to
00:15:54respond because of the
00:15:55chipping away at the laws.
00:15:57I have people coming to me
00:16:00after 15 years asking me to
00:16:03help them deal with this
00:16:05situation.
00:16:05Help them deal with getting a
00:16:08promotion.
00:16:08All of those things are
00:16:10relevant.
00:16:11>> I see that as a two-way
00:16:14conversation.
00:16:14There are things nationally
00:16:16that are hindering the
00:16:17progress of African-Americans.
00:16:19We as African-Americans, we
00:16:20have a responsibility to
00:16:22police our own community.
00:16:24There is a lot of things we
00:16:27should be doing to ensure
00:16:29there are not self-imposed
00:16:31barriers, the structure of our
00:16:33family, the presence of a man
00:16:35in the family, all manner of
00:16:38things, we need
00:16:39African-American leaders to
00:16:40really be picking up on and
00:16:43sounding the alarm for the
00:16:45community to begin policing
00:16:47our own within our reach to
00:16:49ensure there are not barriers.
00:16:51>> I agree, there is nothing a
00:16:54church or a school or
00:16:56neighborhood group can do
00:16:58about that.
00:16:59That is the result of public
00:17:02policy.
00:17:02Most people don't understand
00:17:04that.
00:17:04You look at public policy and
00:17:07the discrimination, it came
00:17:08from public policy and
00:17:10housing.
00:17:10Assisting women.
00:17:11You could not have a man.
00:17:14A lot of that structure has
00:17:16come from public policy.
00:17:18What makes it worse, churches
00:17:20and organizations are not
00:17:22structured to solve that
00:17:24problem.
00:17:24That problem has to be solved
00:17:27at one level.
00:17:28The programs and services it
00:17:30puts into place.
00:17:31I don't know if you are old
00:17:34enough to understand the model
00:17:36cities program.
00:17:37It radically change the lives
00:17:39of African-Americans.
00:17:40IMing product of that program.
00:17:42I'm an afterschool baby.
00:17:44Speed reading college
00:17:45preparation and helping the
00:17:47apply for college and getting
00:17:49in that college and giving me
00:17:52support.
00:17:52Those are the programs we need
00:17:55and churches can't do that.
00:17:57It requires too much money for
00:17:59them to do that.
00:18:01Government programs need to be
00:18:03in place.
00:18:04Clarence: I believe there is a
00:18:07place for government and other
00:18:09nonprofit agencies to be
00:18:10supportive in and that space.
00:18:12I also believe in the
00:18:15importance of self
00:18:16accountability and personal
00:18:17responsibility so that we as
00:18:19individuals have a
00:18:20responsibility to ensure they
00:18:22are doing everything within
00:18:24their construct to ensure they
00:18:26are not impeding their lives.
00:18:28Sometimes they are imposed by
00:18:30others.
00:18:31Sometimes the private sector,
00:18:32the government.
00:18:33We have a responsibility to
00:18:35our families.
00:18:36That starts with myself,
00:18:38Clarence, an African-American
00:18:39man.
00:18:40Being a father to my girls.
00:18:42Ing supportive of my parents.
00:18:44We need to do those things.
00:18:47I'm not suggesting is
00:18:48African-Americans are
00:18:49struggling because of
00:18:51self-inflicted mistakes.
00:18:51What I am suggesting is this
00:18:54is a two-way street.
00:18:56One street involves the
00:18:57private sector doing their
00:18:59part to ensure barriers don't
00:19:01exist.
00:19:02The other involves we as
00:19:04individuals making the right
00:19:06decisions, living in a way
00:19:08that reflects wisdom.
00:19:09Sam: I will buy some of that.
00:19:12Not all of that.
00:19:14I have been engaged with young
00:19:16people, conversations about
00:19:17self-monitoring and
00:19:18self-discipline.
00:19:19They say the system beats us
00:19:21up.
00:19:22It does not support us.
00:19:24It does not believe we can do
00:19:27things.
00:19:27Once you get caught in the
00:19:30system, you are done.
00:19:31I struggle with values.
00:19:33Why do values matter?
00:19:35their perception is they are
00:19:37transient, here today and gone
00:19:39tomorrow.
00:19:39Values are forever, man.
00:19:41Clarence: sure, I can buy some
00:19:44of that, not all of that.
00:19:46You are right.
00:19:47You can't teach people a
00:19:50concept they know nothing
00:19:51about.
00:19:52What I can assure you is
00:19:54government can't do that.
00:19:56We can expect the government
00:19:58to teach values.
00:19:59That has to start on Main
00:20:02Street.
00:20:02It has to start with me
00:20:05working with my neighbor, my
00:20:07cousin working with me.
00:20:09It starts with family.
00:20:10Sam: 72% of the families are
00:20:13headed by households.
00:20:14It is a failed system.
00:20:16If you are asking that woman
00:20:19to begin to create a value
00:20:21system, and the kids will tell
00:20:24you, these people are
00:20:26struggling to do the best they
00:20:28can.
00:20:29I believe, pulling yourself up
00:20:31by your bootstraps, you've got
00:20:33to have straps first.
00:20:35Clarence: I agree.
00:20:36There are enough resources
00:20:38within the community, two of
00:20:40them are at this table, we can
00:20:43project values.
00:20:43We can project right living.
00:20:46Wise decisions.
00:20:46All of those things.
00:20:48Not a perfect life, a better
00:20:51luck.
00:20:51We will combat the
00:20:53institutional racism we know
00:20:54it exists.
00:20:55Karen: I want to jump in on
00:20:58the idea of African-American
00:21:00leaders.
00:21:00It is part of the solution
00:21:03getting more African-Americans
00:21:04to run for office?
00:21:06we don't have a lot of them
00:21:09who are running.
00:21:10And they don't vote in terms
00:21:13of the numbers in society.
00:21:15Clarence: I'm a Republican in
00:21:17Franklin County and I'm doing
00:21:19my part.
00:21:20The Republicans have power in
00:21:22this country about 50% of the
00:21:25time.
00:21:25I'm trying to be a
00:21:27standardbearer so there is a
00:21:29voice for the African-American
00:21:31community to talk about those
00:21:33issues.
00:21:34I believe you're are right.
00:21:36We need African-Americans in
00:21:37public service to ensure our
00:21:39voice is being heard and
00:21:42issues are being addressed and
00:21:44there is the right perspective
00:21:46about what our needs are.
00:21:48Sam: I don't agree with that.
00:21:50It's a great idea, but I don't
00:21:53think we have a lot of people
00:21:56with capacity to be a leader.
00:21:59Other things have to be put in
00:22:02place in order to have people
00:22:05have capacity to do that.
00:22:07I'm not going to make a
00:22:09blanket statement about our
00:22:11elected officials in the city
00:22:13Council.
00:22:13I'm not going to do that.
00:22:16If you go back and look at
00:22:19Jerry and ben, Dr. Francis,
00:22:21leaders back in the day, and
00:22:24you look what we have today in
00:22:27comparison, Michael Coleman, I
00:22:28think we have a different
00:22:30gradation of leader now.
00:22:32It does not have a liberation
00:22:35theology where the purpose is
00:22:37to liberate poor people.
00:22:38Their theology is to move up
00:22:41within the party.
00:22:42Those things you described
00:22:44don't get done because those
00:22:46people don't have a liberation
00:22:48the elegy.
00:22:49They want to move up in the
00:22:52party.
00:22:52They want to work in the White
00:22:55House.
00:22:56You get a different person.
00:22:58Philosophically you and I
00:23:00believe different things.
00:23:01It's obvious.
00:23:02I've worked in government all
00:23:04my life.
00:23:05I've always been in
00:23:07government.
00:23:07I have seen the wonderful
00:23:09things government can do.
00:23:11Helping people get houses.
00:23:12Education.
00:23:13Protecting the rights of
00:23:15individuals.
00:23:15I have seen things because I
00:23:18did it as a part of
00:23:20government.
00:23:21Improving people's lives.
00:23:22I don't believe churches and
00:23:24nonprofits, without public
00:23:25policy, can really do that.
00:23:27Karen: how do you get more
00:23:30people to vote?
00:23:31Sam: we don't educate people
00:23:33on how to vote.
00:23:35Particularly the
00:23:36African-American community.
00:23:37Nobody is committed to that.
00:23:39Clarence: people are inspired
00:23:40to vote when the policies
00:23:43being discussed resonate and
00:23:44they inspire people to want to
00:23:47participate in the process and
00:23:49make a difference.
00:23:50When you are talking about
00:23:52poverty, it really doesn't
00:23:54touch people on Main Street.
00:23:56People are inspired by that.
00:23:58People don't believe life can
00:24:00change by voting for a person,
00:24:03talking in an abstract manner
00:24:05that does not reflect reality.
00:24:07We need officials who are
00:24:09talking about the issues
00:24:11affecting people, poverty,
00:24:12education, employment.
00:24:13Sam: I get scared with
00:24:15inspirational approach.
00:24:16Barack Obama brought people
00:24:18out.
00:24:18The question, are we going to
00:24:21bring out the same amount of
00:24:23people because they were
00:24:25inspired?
00:24:25The response is, the system
00:24:28and government needs to
00:24:29address the needs of people.
00:24:31When people see that, they
00:24:33will go out and support.
00:24:36Is something else, people who
00:24:38receives services should be
00:24:39required to vote.
00:24:41I know people say, you did not
00:24:44say that.
00:24:45Yes, I did.
00:24:46Clarence: you're getting half
00:24:47the equation.
00:24:48We are back to government
00:24:50leading the charge.
00:24:52The other half is individuals
00:24:54--
00:24:54Sam: let me tell you my bias
00:24:57and where I came from.
00:24:59Clarence: I get it, yes.
00:25:02I really believe in this
00:25:04presidential election, we
00:25:05watched all of the candidates
00:25:07talk in this artificial way
00:25:09about these issues.
00:25:10I have yet to really be
00:25:13touched in a meaningful way
00:25:15about the things I see
00:25:17impacting my family, extended
00:25:19family, and what I'm looking
00:25:21for to someone to do, the only
00:25:24person was done this has been
00:25:27John Kasich.
00:25:27Someone to talk about what is
00:25:30happening in America and how
00:25:32my family has been impacted
00:25:34and what the policies are
00:25:36going to do to change that.
00:25:39Not in some intangible
00:25:41capacity.
00:25:41Sam: I don't have any --
00:25:44inspiring me does not get to
00:25:46work.
00:25:46Get to my interests.
00:25:48Karen: that's it for this
00:25:50week.
00:25:51For my colleagues at Ohio
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