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00:00:29KAREN: MEDICAL MARIJUANA MAY
MOVE ALONG IN THE LEGISLATURE A
00:00:31LOT QUICKER THAN EXPECTED.
NEW NUMBERS SHOW NO BIG
00:00:36SURPRISES ON KIDS IN POVERTY AND
TEST SCORES.
00:01:15WE'LL HEAR FROM LEADERS ON BOTH
SIDES.
00:01:16ALL THIS WEEK IN "THE STATE OF
OHIO."
00:01:18?
KAREN: MEDICAL MARIJUANA MAY BE
00:01:19ON THE MOVE AMONG STATE
LAWMAKERS.
00:01:19REPUBLICAN HOUSE SPEAKER CLIFF
ROSENBERGER SAID AFTER SESSION
00:01:21THIS WEEK THAT HE IS CONSIDERING
A TASK FORCE THAT WOULD REVIEW
00:01:22MEDICAL POT POLICY IN OHIO AND
COME UP WITH IDEAS ON WHAT CAN
00:01:24BE DONE ABOUT IT.
SPEAKER ROSENBERGER:
00:01:25POTENTIALLY, I MAY BE ANNOUNCING
A COMMITTEE OR TASK FORCE --
00:01:27>> YOU THINK THAT WILL HAPPEN
BEFORE YOU GUYS LEAVE?
00:01:30SPEAKER ROSENBERGER: HE IS
WRAPPING UP HIS INITIAL
00:01:39FINDINGS BUT I'M HOPING TO SEE
SOMETHING IN THE FUTURE.
00:01:41SOMETHING TO START THE NEW YEAR.
>> THIS WILL BE A STUDY
00:01:48COMMITTEE TO DO WHAT?
SPEAKER ROSENBERGER: TO START
00:01:49COMPILING -- TO GO OUT IN THE
COMMUNITY AND TALK WITH BOTH
00:01:56SIDES OF THE ISSUE AND MAKE SURE
WE TRY TO COALESCE AND GET THE
00:01:59RIGHT THINGS DONE HERE.
KAREN: ROSENBERGER TOLD
00:02:02REPORTERS LAST MONTH THAT HE
FEELS THERE'S SUPPORT FOR
00:02:05MEDICAL MARIJUANA AMONG THE
REPUBLICAN CAUCUS, AS WELL AS
00:02:06AMONG DEMOCRATS, AND THAT THOUGH
ISSUE 3 FAILED, THE MEASURE THAT
00:02:08WOULD HAVE ALLOWED FOR MEDICINAL
AND RECREATIONAL USE OF POT DID
00:02:11SPARK A CONVERSATION.
ROSENBERGER HAS POINTED OUT A
00:02:14BILL ON MEDICAL CANNABIS WAS
PROPOSED BY REPUBLICAN
00:02:17REPRESENTATIVE WES RETHERFORD OF
HAMILTON EARLIER THIS YEAR, BUT
00:02:19THE BILL HAS YET TO HAVE ITS
FIRST HEARING.
00:02:25IN THAT HOUSE SESSION, LAWMAKERS
OVERWHELMINGLY APPROVED A BILL
00:02:26TO EXTEND THE AGE FOR PEOPLE TO
RECEIVE FOSTER CARE SERVICES TO
00:02:3121 FROM 18.
AND REPRESENTATIVES ALSO OKAYED
00:02:34A MEASURE ALLOWING RESTAURANTS,
CHILD CARE CENTERS, AMUSEMENT
00:02:37PARKS, COLLEGES, SPORTS VENUES
AND OTHER PLACES KEEP
00:02:40EPINEPHRINE INJECTORS ON HAND TO
TREAT SEVERE ALLERGIC REACTIONS
00:02:44FROM INSECT STINGS, FOOD OR
OTHER CAUSES.
00:02:49THIS WEEK BROUGHT A FIRST
COMMITTEE HEARING FOR A MEASURE
00:02:52THAT'S BEEN DISCUSSED BEFORE IN
ONE FORM OR ANOTHER.
00:02:53A PROPOSAL TO BAN THE
REQUIREMENT THAT WORKERS TO JOIN
00:02:57OR PAY DUES TO A LABOR
ORGANIZATION AS A CONDITION OF
00:02:59EMPLOYMENT.
THIS BILL FROM REPRESENTATIVE
00:03:03TOM BRINKMAN OF MOUNT LOOKOUT
NEAR CINCINNATI WOULD AFFECT
00:03:06ONLY PEOPLE EMPLOYED BY PRIVATE
COMPANIES, NOT PUBLIC SECTOR
00:03:09WORKERS, WHICH WERE THE TARGET
OF SENATE BILL 5, THE LAW THAT
00:03:11VOTERS OVERTURNED IN 2011.
BUT UNION MEMBERS ARE VERY
00:03:16CONCERNED, AND MORE THAN A
HUNDRED TURNED OUT TO FILL THE
00:03:20COMMITTEE HEARING ROOM AND AN
OVERFLOW ROOM DOWN THE HALL TO
00:03:22HEAR BRINKMAN TAKE QUESTIONS
FROM FELLOW LAWMAKERS.
00:03:27THE COMMITTEE'S CHAIR, RON YOUNG
OF LAKE COUNTY, TOLD REPORTERS
00:03:30BEFORE THE HEARING THAT WHILE
HE'S BEEN SUPPORTIVE OF
00:03:32SO-CALLED RIGHT TO WORK
LEGISLATION IN PREVIOUS
00:03:35SESSIONS, THAT DOESN'T MEAN
HE'LL AUTOMATICALLY BACK
00:03:38BRINKMAN'S BILL.
>> I HAVE IN THE PAST.
00:03:43WE HAVE TO HEAR ALL THE ISSUES
ON THIS PARTICULAR VERSION TO
00:03:49SEE WHAT'S GOING ON.
I'M NOT A RUBBERSTAMP ON THE
00:03:57ISSUE.
KAREN: RIGHT TO WORK LAWS HAVE
00:03:59BEEN ENACTED IN 25 STATES, AND
SUPPORTERS SAY THEY'VE HELPED
00:04:01CREATE JOBS AND BENEFIT WORKERS.
BUT OPPONENTS SAY RIGHT TO WORK
00:04:03STATES HAVE LOWER WAGES, AND
THAT THESE LAWS ALLOW PEOPLE TO
00:04:05GET THE BENEFITS OF UNION
NEGOTIATIONS WITHOUT OFFERING IN
00:04:07RETURN.
AN ANALYSIS OF RECENT STUDENT
00:04:14TEST RESULTS IN OHIO SHOWS THE
CONTINUING ROLE OF POVERTY IN
00:04:17THE SCORES FROM CONTROVERSIAL
SCHOOL TESTS THAT HAVE NOW BEEN
00:04:20DISCONTINUED.
EDUCATION CONSULTANT HOWARD
00:04:24FLEETER OF THE OHIO EDUCATION
POLICY INSTITUTE COMPARED DATA
00:04:29FROM THE PARTNERSHIP FOR
ASSESSMENT OF READINESS FOR
00:04:32COLLEGE AND CAREERS, OR PARCC,
TESTS IN MATH AND ENGLISH, WHICH
00:04:34STATE LAWMAKERS VOTED TO REMOVE
FROM SCHOOLS.
00:04:39HE ALSO COMPARED SCORES ON THE
AMERICAN INSTITUTES FOR
00:04:41RESEARCH, OR AIR, TESTS IN
SCIENCE AND SOCIAL STUDIES.
00:04:44FLEETER'S ANALYSIS FOUND SCORES
IN ALL FOUR AREAS WERE HIGHLY
00:04:46NEGATIVELY CORRELATED WITH THE
PERCENTAGE OF
00:04:51ECONOMICALLY-DISADVANTAGED
STUDENTS, MEANING DISTRICTS WITH
00:04:54FEWER POOR STUDENTS HAD HIGHER
SCORES WHILE DISTRICTS WITH MORE
00:04:58DID WORSE.
IN THESE CHARTS, THE GROUP WITH
00:05:01THE HIGHEST SCORES, QUINTILE, OR
Q1, HAD THE LOWEST PERCENTAGES
00:05:05OF ECONOMICALLY DISADVANTAGED
STUDENTS.
00:05:08AS THE PERCENTAGES OF
DISADVANTAGED STUDENTS RISES,
00:05:11THE SCORES FALL, NO MATTER
WHETHER THE STUDENTS ARE BEING
00:05:13TESTED ON MATH OR ENGLISH IN THE
PARCC TESTS, OR ON SCIENCE AND
00:05:17SOCIAL STUDENTS IN THE AIR
TESTS.
00:05:20FLEETER'S STUDY WAS RELEASED
TUESDAY BY THE OHIO SCHOOL
00:05:22BOARDS ASSOCIATION, BUCKEYE
ASSOCIATION OF SCHOOL
00:05:28ADMINISTRATORS AND OHIO
ASSOCIATION OF SCHOOL BUSINESS
00:05:29OFFICIALS.
FOR THE FIRST TIME, VISITORS
00:05:30WILL HAVE TO WALK THROUGH METAL
DETECTORS AT EACH OF THE THREE
00:05:33PUBLIC ENTRANCES TO THE OHIO
STATEHOUSE.
00:05:36TROOPERS HAVE BEEN SEARCHING
BAGS COMING IN TO THE STATEHOUSE
00:05:38FOR SOME TIME NOW, AND WILL
CONTINUE TO DO THAT AS WELL.
00:05:42THERE WAS NO SPECIFIC REASON OR
THREAT GIVEN FOR THE UPGRADE IN
00:05:44SECURITY, WHICH HA0D BEEN TALKED
-- WHICH HAD BEEN TALKED ABOUT
00:05:53FOR A WHILE.
BUT THE BUILDING'S MANAGEMENT
00:05:54NOTED THAT MORE THAN 200,000
PEOPLE VISIT THE CAPITOL AND
00:05:58HUNDREDS WORK IN THE BUILDING
EACH DAY.
00:06:00AND DEER GUN SEASON IS UNDERWAY
IN OHIO.
00:06:01HUNTERS IN OHIO CHECKED 22,256
DEER ON MONDAY, THE OPENING DAY
00:06:04OF THE STATE'S WEEKLONG GUN
SEASON.
00:06:07THAT'S UP FROM JUST OVER 17,500
DEER TAKEN ON THE FIRST DAY OF
00:06:12GUN SEASON A YEAR AGO.
THE TOP FIVE COUNTIES REPORTING
00:06:15ON MONDAY'S HARVEST WERE
COSHOCTON, ASHTABULA, MUSKINGUM,
00:06:18GUERNSEY AND KNOX.
THE OHIO DEPARTMENT OF NATURAL
00:06:21RESOURCES SAYS HUNTING IS THE
MOST EFFECTIVE MANAGEMENT TOOL
00:06:25FOR MAINTAINING OHIO'S HEALTHY
DEER POPULATION.
00:06:29OHIO RANKS FIFTH NATIONALLY IN
NUMBER OF RESIDENT HUNTERS AND
00:06:3111TH IN THE NUMBER OF JOBS
ASSOCIATED WITH HUNTING-RELATED
00:06:33INDUSTRIES.
THE FIRST WEEK OF DEER GUN
00:06:38SEASON ENDS SUNDAY, WITH ANOTHER
ROUND OF DEER GUN SEASON AT THE
00:06:41END OF THE MONTH, DECEMBER 28
AND 29.
00:06:46ABOUT HALF OF OHIO'S MORE THAN
600 SCHOOL DISTRICTS ARE
00:06:48CHARGING FEES TO STUDENTS WHO
WANT TO PLAY SPORTS, BE IN THE
00:06:52BAND OR IN THE SCHOOL MUSICAL OR
PARTICIPATE IN OTHER NONACADEMIC
00:06:56CLUBS AND ACTIVITIES.
AND THOSE PAY-TO-PARTICIPATE
00:06:59FEES, WHICH FAMILIES FORK OVER
ON TOP OF PROPERTY TAXES, SCHOOL
00:07:03LUNCH COSTS, LAB AND BOOK FEES
AND OTHER MONEY THAT GOES TO
00:07:07THEIR KIDS' EDUCATION, CAN ADD
UP.
00:07:10IN SOME DISTRICTS, THEY CAN TOP
$600 PER ACTIVITY.
00:07:23THAT MEANS FEWER KIDS IN THESE
PROGRAMS, WHICH NOT ONLY ARE
00:07:26FUN, BUT ARE TEAM BUILDING
ACTIVITIES WHICH INSPIRE KIDS TO
00:07:28BE MORE ACTIVE IN SCHOOL AND ARE
OFTEN INCLUDED IN COLLEGE
00:07:29APPLICATIONS.
AND THEY'RE ACTIVITIES WHICH
00:07:31BRING INTO THE SCHOOLS THE
LARGER COMMUNITY, INCLUDING
00:07:32PEOPLE WHO NO LONGER OR NEVER
HAD KIDS IN THE SCHOOLS BUT ARE
00:07:33STILL HELPING FUND THE DISTRICT.
AND IN SOME DISTRICTS, THOSE
00:07:36FEES AREN'T GOING ONLY TO THE
SPORTS TEAMS, THE MUSIC PROGRAMS
00:07:39OR THE DRAMA CLUBS.
THEY ARE GOING TO PLUG BUDGET
00:07:43SHORTFALLS IN DISTRICTS'
BUDGETS.
00:07:45REPUBLICAN SENATOR CLIFF HITE
HAS HEARD ALL ABOUT THESE FEES.
00:07:48HE'S A FORMER HIGH SCHOOL
FOOTBALL COACH, AND HAS SAID HE
00:07:50WANTS TO FIND A WAY TO GET RID
OF THE FEES WITHOUT GETTING RID
00:07:53OF THE PROGRAMS.
HE'S BEEN HOLDING HEARINGS ON
00:07:55THE TOPIC IN AN EFFORT TO PUT
TOGETHER SOME LEGISLATION
00:07:56DEALING WITH PAY TO PLAY FEES.
DAMON ASBURY IS THE DIRECTOR OF
00:08:01LEGISLATIVE SERVICES FOR THE
OHIO SCHOOL BOARD ASSOCIATION,
00:08:09A FORMER SUPERINTENDENT WHO
HEARS FROM SCHOOL DISTRICTS
00:08:11AROUND THE STATE ABOUT HOW THEY
MAKE THE HARD CHOICE OF WHETHER
00:08:13TO REQUIRE FEES OR CUT PROGRAMS.
I'M PLEASED THAT YOU ARE BOTH
00:08:18HERE TO TALK ABOUT THIS.
YOU HELD THESE INFORMATION
00:08:22HEARINGS IN COLUMBUS AND
CLEVELAND.
00:08:23WHAT DID YOU LEARN ABOUT THE
HEARINGS OTHER THAN PAY TO PLAY
00:08:28FEES ARE BAD AND WE DON'T WANT
THEM ANYMORE ?
00:08:32KAREN: I WAS IN THE OLD --
SENATOR HITE: I WAS IN THE OLD
00:08:37BUCKEYE CONFERENCE.
THIS WAS A PHENOMENAL THING WE
00:08:46DID, THIS ROAD TRIP.
WE LEARNED SO MUCH ABOUT SO MANY
00:08:53DIFFERENT SCHOOLS AND HOW THEY
ARE HANDLING THIS SITUATION.
00:08:54SCHOOLS WERE PUT IN TOUGH
SITUATIONS YEARS AGO.
00:08:57IF YOU DO A BLANKET, WE WILL GET
RID OF PAY TO PLAY, WHAT ARE
00:09:04SCHOOLS GOING TO DO?
IT IS A BIG CONUNDRUM SITUATION.
00:09:07IF SOMEBODY FIGURED OUT HOW TO
GET IT DONE, IT WOULD HAPPEN
00:09:16DISPLAYED TO EVERYBODY BY NOW
AND THAT IS NOT THE CASE.
00:09:17I'M OUT THERE TRYING TO DO
FACT-FINDING AND SOLUTION
00:09:21FINDING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT CAN
BE DONE.
00:09:22I ABHOR PAY TO PARTICIPATE,
BUT SCHOOLS HAD TO MAKE A CHOICE
00:09:33BETWEEN GETTING RID OF TEACHERS
AND PROGRAMS -- I'M TOTALLY
00:09:38AGAINST PAY TO PARTICIPATE, BUT
I DON'T WANT ANYBODY TO LOSE ANY
00:09:40ACADEMIC ACTIVITY.
DANCERS, HOW WILL YOU DO THAT?
00:09:43WE ASKED PEOPLE TO GIVE US
SUGGESTIONS AND WE RECEIVED A
00:09:48LOT OF INPUT.
KAREN: THERE IS A BIG CONCERN
00:09:54FOR KIDS WHO CAN'T AFFORD THE
FEES, BUT AREN'T THEY INHERENTLY
00:09:57UNFAIR TO THE FAMILIES OF THE
KIDS WHO CAN'T AFFORD TO PAY THE
00:10:03FEES?
DAMON: IT IS A CONUNDRUM.
00:10:08I WOULD COMMEND SENATOR HITE FOR
GOING OUT AND GETTING FACTS AND
00:10:15INFORMATION.
SOMETIMES WE RUN INTO
00:10:18LEGISLATION WITHOUT FAX.
-- WITHOUT FACTS.
00:10:22EVERYONE I KNOW IN THE SCHOOL
BUSINESS DOES NOT LIKE TO CHARGE
00:10:31STUDENTS AND FAMILIES FOR
ACTIVITIES.
00:10:32ON THE OTHER HAND, WITHOUT THOSE
FEES, THEY MAY HAVE TO CUT SOME
00:10:37OF THOSE ACTIVITIES.
WHEN I WAS SUPERINTENDENT IN
00:10:40WORTHINGTON, WE HAD 26 SPORTS.
EVERY SPORT HAS ADVOCATES.
00:10:46HOCKEY PROGRAM IN WORTHINGTON, I
WAS AMAZED AT THE NUMBER OF
00:10:52PEOPLE WHO NOT ONLY WERE
SUPPORTIVE OF HOCKEY, BUT
00:10:57WILLING TO PAY FOR IT TO GET IT
STARTED.
00:10:58IT EVENTUALLY BECOMES THE SCHOOL
DISTRICTS'S CHALLENGE.
00:11:03WE NEED TO FIND CREATIVE
SITUATIONS.
00:11:07IT DOES IMPACT ALL STUDENTS.
IN DISTRICTS WHERE THE FEE IS
00:11:14$600, IT IS AFFECTING
MIDDLE-CLASS KIDS AND EVEN
00:11:16WEALTHY PARENTS BECAUSE ALL OF
US HAVE COSTS AND THIS IS JUST
00:11:20THE NEXT ARE ONE.
-- AN EXTRA ONE.
00:11:24KAREN: AVON, DUBLIN, THE FOURTH
RICHEST DISTRICT IN THE STATE,
00:11:31HUDSON, LAKOTA, MASON, WHY WOULD
THE RICHEST DISTRICTS IN THE
00:11:38STATE BE CHARGING FOR THESE
ACTIVITIES?
00:11:41YOU WOULD EXPECT THAT TO BE THE
NORM IN DISTRICTS THAT ARE
00:11:45HAVING TROUBLE.
THESE DISTRICTS SHOULD NOT BE
00:11:47HAVING TROUBLE, SHOULD THEY?
>> WEALTHY DISTRICTS IS AN
00:11:51OXYMORON.
I DON'T KNOW OF ANY DISTRICTS
00:11:55THAT ARE WEALTHY.
MOST ARE RELYING 90% ON LOCAL
00:12:00PROPERTY TAXES.
THOSE TAXPAYERS FEEL LIKE THEY
00:12:04ARE ALREADY BEING STRAPPED.
MANY PEOPLE WHO DON'T HAVE KIDS
00:12:11ENGAGE IN ACTIVITIES.
THAT IS SEEN AS NEXT ARE.
00:12:13WE DON'T WANT TO PAY FOR THAT.
THAT'S SEEN AS AN EXTRA.
00:12:20THEY HAVE TO COME UP WITH SOME
WAY TO FUND IT.
00:12:24IT INVOLVES FEES.
ALMOST EVERY PROGRAM I KNOW OF
00:12:30HAS A WAY FOR LOW INCOME OR
STUDENTS IN NEED TO HAVE A
00:12:36FACILITY PAID -- IT IS OFTEN
TIMES THE KID IN THE MIDDLE THAT
00:12:40DOESN'T ASK OR DOESN'T KNOW HOW
TO ASK OR WOULD NOT QUALIFY THAT
00:12:45CHRIS THE PROBLEM.
KAREN: IF YOU GET RID OF THESE
00:12:46PAY TO PLAY FEES, WON'T YOU SET
UP A SITUATION WHERE ONLY THE
00:12:52RICHEST DISTRICTS COULD OFFER
THESE HIGH-VALUE SPORTS, LIKE
00:12:55FOOTBALL?
SENATOR HITE: THAT IS THE
00:12:59CONUNDRUM THAT WE SEE.
WE HEARD A LOT OF DIFFERENT
00:13:01SOLUTIONS AS FAR AS WHAT LOCAL
SCHOOLS HAVE BEEN DOING.
00:13:05THE THEME HAS ALWAYS BEEN LOCAL
CONTROL, LOCAL CONTROL, DON'T
00:13:11TELL US WHAT TO DO FROM THE
STATE.
00:13:12WHAT I'M AGAINST HIS LOCAL OUT
OF CONTROL.
00:13:15YOU MENTIONED 650 -- WE GOT A
REPORT IN FINLEY THAT ONE SCHOOL
00:13:25WAS CHARGING $1000 PER STUDENT
PER SPORT WITH.
00:13:26WHERE IS THAT MONEY GOING?
IF IT IS GOING TO A SPORT LIKE
00:13:36HOCKEY -- THERE IS NOT A SCHOOL
THAT HAS AN ICE RINK, SO YOU
00:13:38HAVE TO RENT THEM.
THAT IS A BIG DEAL.
00:13:41DAMON: IT IS A GREAT SPORT, LOT
OF FAN SUPPORT, THEY HAVE TO PAY
00:13:48QUITE A BIT OF MONEY.
MY SON IS AN ATHLETIC DIRECTOR
00:13:53AT A SCHOOL INVENT URINE.
-- IN VAN BUREN.
00:13:59IT IS ONE OF THOSE DISTRICTS
THEY DON'T GET MUCH ESTATE AID.
00:14:06MANY HAVE SAID WE'VE TALKED
ABOUT IT -- THE FIRST THING MY
00:14:11SON SAID, YOU WILL PUT ME OUT OF
A JOB.
00:14:14THE OTHER THING I DON'T WANT TO
HAPPEN, I DON'T WANT US TO DO
00:14:23SOMETHING AT THE STATE LEVEL
THAT WOULD ENCOURAGE MORE PEOPLE
00:14:25TO GET INVOLVED IN PAY TO
PARTICIPATE.
00:14:27IF YOU SET A CERTAIN CAP AND SAY
THIS IS THE WAY TO BE, THERE
00:14:33MIGHT BE OTHER PEOPLE INCLINED
TO GO WE NEED TO DO THAT TOO.
00:14:35THAT IS GOING IN THE WRONG
DIRECTION.
00:14:37THIS HAS BEEN A TOUGH CALL,
WHICH IS GOOD, BECAUSE I DON'T
00:14:46HAVE A DEFINITIVE ANSWER RIGHT
NOW, WHICH IS GOOD.
00:14:47WE WILL NOT RUSH INTO ANY
ANECDOTAL LEGISLATION.
00:14:48I HAVE DONE A LOT OF WORK ON
THIS AND WE HAVE OPTIONS.
00:14:54I WILL COME OUT WITH DIFFERENT
OPTIONS THAT I THINK WE SHOULD
00:15:04CONSIDER AT THE STATE LEVEL.
SOME ARE VERY INTRUSIVE TO SOME
00:15:09PEOPLE AND SOME ARE -- SOME
DON'T DO ANYTHING.
00:15:11WE HAVE EIGHT DIFFERENT IDEAS
RIGHT NOW AND SUGGESTIONS OF HOW
00:15:18WE COULD HANDLE THIS AND SEE
WHERE IT GOES.
00:15:19KAREN: WHERE THE MONEY IS GOING,
I WANT TO GET YOU IN ON THIS.
00:15:22THIS WHOLE IDEA OF THESE PAY TO
PLAY FEES ARE CHARGED, THEY
00:15:29DON'T NECESSARILY GO TO SPORTS.
SOME PEOPLE SAYING WE ARE
00:15:32CHARGING THESE FEES BECAUSE
LAWMAKERS HAVE PUT BAND-AIDS ON
00:15:37DISTRICT WITHOUT PAYING EXTRA
MONEY FOR THOSE BAND-AIDS AND
00:15:41THAT IS WHERE THE MONEY HAS TO
GO.
00:15:42DAMON: WE HAVE INCREASED MORE
MONEY TO STATE SCHOOLS THAN WE
00:15:47HAVE SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE.
WE'VE ALSO EMPHASIZED THE
00:15:51LOWER-INCOME DISTRICTS, THAT'S
WHY WHEN WE TALK ABOUT WEALTHY
00:15:53DISTRICTS, THEY ARE NOT GETTING
AS BIG A PIECE OF THE PIE AS
00:15:57THEY USED TO.
BC, BEFORE CLIFF.
00:16:05WE ARE DOING A LOT TO HELP
SCHOOLS -- THAT IS SOMETHING I
00:16:11WANT TO LOOK INTO, IT SCHOOLS
RECEIVE MORE MONEY, CAN THEY
00:16:14REDUCE THE FEES?
THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IS TO
00:16:21EXAMINE WHERE THE MONEY IS
GOING.
00:16:22IF IT IS NOT GOING TO THE
PURPOSE THAT IT IS ANNOUNCED IT
00:16:26IS GOING FOR, THEN WE HAVE A
PROBLEM.
00:16:27THAT IS THE OUT-OF-CONTROL PART
I WANT US TO LOOK AT.
00:16:32DAMON: IN RESPONSE TO THAT ISSUE
, THIS IS AN AREA WHERE WE NEED
00:16:38A LOT MORE DATA THAN WE
CURRENTLY HAVE.
00:16:39WE HAVE REPORTS FROM HALF OF THE
SCHOOL DISTRICTS AS TO WHAT THEY
00:16:44ARE ACTUALLY CHARGING, WHAT THE
FEE STRUCTURE IS.
00:16:45WE NEED THAT AS WELL AS WHERE IS
THE MONEY IS GOING.
00:16:49GOING ANYWHERE TO FUND -- THERE
WILL BE DID OUT THERE THAT WILL
00:16:59SAY THAT IS NOT TRUE.
IT GOES FOR THINGS LIKE FIELD
00:17:00HOCKEY, TRANSPORTATION, SOUND
WAS OF COACHES.
00:17:05-- SALARIES FOR COACHES.
UNIFORMS COME EQUIPMENT.
00:17:11IT WILL BE USEFUL TO TRACK THOSE
DOLLARS.
00:17:15WHILE IT IS TRUE THE STATE HAS
PUT MORE MONEY INTO EDUCATION,
00:17:24PRIOR TO THAT, WE HAD MAJOR CUTS
IN EDUCATION.
00:17:25WE HAD SCHOOL DISTRICT'S RIGHT
NOW THAT ARE JUST BEGINNING TO
00:17:29REALIZE MORE MONEY THAN THEY
WERE GETTING A 2009 AND 2010,
00:17:36THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF CATCH-UP.
THEY HAVE CUT STAFF, CUT
00:17:39SALARIES, CUT AUTOMATIC
INCREASES AND SPORTS HAVE
00:17:44SUFFERED AS WELL.
KAREN: IT IS A HARMLESS ATTITUDE
00:17:50RIGHT NOW -- IF YOU GET THE SAME
AMOUNT WITH THE COST OF
00:17:54EVERYTHING, IT IS TOUGH.
I RECOGNIZE THAT.
00:17:57I KNOW HOW THAT WORKS.
IT IS THE GLEAMING OF
00:18:05INFORMATION THAT IS THE MOST
FASCINATING PART FOR ME.
00:18:07THE ONE THING I WANT TO HEAR,
THE SCHOOLS THAT TESTIFIED THEY
00:18:20ARE TAKING CARE OF THE STUDENTS
WHO CAN'T AFFORD IT -- THERE ARE
00:18:23KIDS CAUGHT IN THE MIDDLE --
SOME SCHOOLS TESTIFY THEY ARE
00:18:29TRYING TO HELP THOSE SITUATIONS
AS WELL.
00:18:30THEY DON'T WANT LESS PEOPLE
BEING INVOLVED.
00:18:33THEY WANT MORE.
BECAUSE OF ALL THE LESSONS
00:18:36PEOPLE LEARNED, THAT WAS THE
FIRST THING WE EMPHASIZED ON
00:18:39THIS ROAD TRIP, HOW IMPORTANT --
I AM A CELLO PLAYER.
00:18:45I KNOW HOW MUCH IT MEANT TO ME
AND MY FAMILY.
00:18:48ALL THE THINGS YOU'VE LEARNED,
THE TEAMWORK AND EDUCATION AND
00:18:56HOW TO HANDLE LOSING, ALL THESE
THINGS ARE SO IMPORTANT TO A
00:19:01KID'S EDUCATIONAL ATTAINMENT IN
THE END.
00:19:02NOBODY HAS A PROBLEM WITH THAT.
EVERYBODY AGREES WITH THAT.
00:19:07HOW CAN WE MAKE THAT BETTER?
IF WE CAN DO SOMETHING TO MAKE
00:19:13IT BETTER, I'M ALL FOR THAT.
KAREN: I WANT TO ASK YOU ABOUT
00:19:15THE WHOLE IDEA OF WE PAY TO
PARTICIPATE IN A LOT OF
00:19:20ACTIVITIES WE LUCKILY CHOOSE TO
DO.
00:19:21WHEN YOU'VE GOT RECREATIONAL
CENTERS PAID FOR BY COMMUNITIES,
00:19:28YOU GOT SOME PEOPLE WHO ARE
PAYING PROPERTY TAXES WHO DON'T
00:19:32HAVE KIDS IN DISTRICTS OR WHOSE
KIDS DON'T PARTICIPATE IN SPORTS
00:19:37SAYING WHY SHOULD I HAVE TO PAY
FOR OTHER PEOPLE TO PLAY AND
00:19:41WATCH THE FOOTBALL TEAM OR GO TO
A MUSICAL?
00:19:44WHAT ARE THE SCHOOL SUPPOSED TO
DO?
00:19:47EDUCATE THEM FOR THEIR FUTURE.
DAMON: ONE THING WE HAVE TO HELP
00:19:53PARENTS UNDERSTAND ARE THE
THINGS THAT MAKE UP THE FABRICS
00:19:59OF EDUCATION AND SOCIETY.
WE EDUCATE THE WHOLE CHILD.
00:20:01WE SHOULD HAVE A PHILOSOPHY OF
WHOLE CHILD EDUCATION AND THAT
00:20:08INCLUDES SPORTS AND
CO-CURRICULAR'S, THEATER, ALL
00:20:12THOSE THINGS THAT GO TO MAKE A
WELL-ROUNDED PERSON.
00:20:15IT IS PART OF AN EDUCATED
CITIZENRY.
00:20:17WE HAVE TO THE PICTURE SO THAT
THE NONPARTICIPANTS SEE THAT THE
00:20:27SAY CONTRIBUTION TO THE OVERALL
QUALITY OF THE COMMUNITY.
00:20:28SPORTS ARE IMPORTANT TO SOME
KIDS AND THEATER IS IMPORTANT TO
00:20:33OTHERS.
WE HAVE TO HAVE A PROGRAM AND IT
00:20:35HAS TO BE APPROPRIATELY FUNDED.
TO OFFER THOSE --
00:20:39SENATOR HITE: THAT IS REALLY
GOOD.
00:20:42THAT WAS REALLY GOOD.
I AGREE 100%.
00:20:45THAT IS THE THEME OF WHAT WE ARE
TURNED TO DO.
00:20:48WE DON'T WANT SOMEBODY TO BE
LEFT OUT OF THAT.
00:20:50YOU DON'T, EITHER.
HELP US FIGURE OUT HOW WE CAN
00:20:57GET THIS DONE THE RIGHT WAY.
SOME STATES HAVE DONE CAMPS --
00:21:05I'M DEAD HONEST WHEN I SAY I
HAVE NO IDEA WHERE WE WILL GO
00:21:07WITH THIS YET.
IT IS IMPORTANT, ALL THESE
00:21:10CO-CURRICULARS.
SOME KIDS ARE LEFT OUT IN SOME
00:21:14PLACES.
THERE'S THE GOOD PART AND THEN
00:21:19THERE IS THE BAD PART.
THAT GETS TO BE THE CONUNDRUM
00:21:22AND THAT IS WHY WE ARE HERE.
WE NEED TIME, WE CANNOT RUSH TO
00:21:26JUDGMENT.
THIS IS SOMETHING WE NEED TO
00:21:29WORK THROUGH AND FIGURE OUT.
KAREN: BOTTOM LINE, YOU ARE
00:21:32PUTTING OUT A REPORT THAT WOULD
SAY WHO WOULD PAY FOR THE COST
00:21:39IF YOU GET RID OF THESE PAY TO
PLAY FEES.
00:21:40WHO PAYS THE COST?
SENATOR HITE: ONE OF EIGHT
00:21:47OPTIONS.
I CANNOT ANSWER SPECIFICALLY
00:21:52BECAUSE IT COULD BE THAT THE
STATE IS INVOLVED, IT COULD BE
00:21:54THAT THERE IS CAPS, YOUR TO DO
A REPORT LET US KNOW WHAT YOU
00:22:02ARE SPENDING FOR SO THAT WE HAVE
AN IDEA.
00:22:03WE DON'T HAVE ALL THE
INFORMATION.
00:22:04THERE IS A YOUNG MAN WORKING ON
HIS DOCTORATE AT THE UNIVERSITY
00:22:10OF FINDLAY WHO I HAPPEN TO KNOW.
HE LEFT AS A DEAN WHEN I TOOK
00:22:18OVER.
HE SENT SERVICE TO EVERY SCHOOL
00:22:25-- SURVEYS TO EVERY SCHOOL AND
HE HAS RECEIVED 67% RESPONSE IN
00:22:29TWO WEEKS.
HE WILL COMPILE HIS REPORT AND I
00:22:34WANT TO USE HIS REPORT AS WELL.
THAT IS A LOT OF INFORMATION.
00:22:37WHAT WE HAVE DISCOVERED IS ONE
SCHOOL WILL PAY $100 PER KID
00:22:42WITH A $400 CAP.
SOME ARE CHARGING $650 WITH NO
00:22:48CAP.
IT CAP THE SCHOOLS ARE DOING IT,
00:22:54NONE OF THEM ARE DOING IT
EXACTLY THE SAME WAY.
00:22:57IT'S BASED ON THE NEEDS THEIR
BOARD SAID -- TESTIFIED AGAINST
00:23:04PETER PARTICIPATE AND HE IS ON A
SCHOOL BOARD -- PAY TO
00:23:09PARTICIPATE AND HE IS ON A
SCHOOL BOARD.
00:23:10HE UNDERSTOOD IF WE DON'T DO IT,
WE WILL CUT OTHER PROGRAMS.
00:23:15HE SAID, I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU
WILL DO.
00:23:16HE IS WHERE I AM AT.
KAREN: WHAT DO YOU FEAR YOU WILL
00:23:24HEAR FROM SENATOR HITE?
DAMON: THE ONE THING WE DON'T
00:23:34WANT TO HEAR IS THAT THIS IS
SOMETHING EVERYONE MUST DO.
00:23:36I DON'T BELIEVE THERE IS A
ONE-SIZE-FITS-ALL SOLUTION.
00:23:40COMMUNITIES ARE DIFFERENT.
THEY DID NOT WANT ADVERTISING IN
00:23:45THAT COMMUNITY TO UNDERWRITE
SPORTS.
00:23:47OTHER COMMUNITIES DO.
PENSACOLA AND COCA-COLA HAVE
00:23:53MADE A LOT OF INROADS.
WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE COME
00:23:56OUT OF THIS IS A RANGE OF
OPTIONS THAT LOCAL BOARDS CAN
00:24:00CONSIDER THAT ARE TESTED, THINGS
THAT COULD WORK, WHICH ONE WORKS
00:24:08BEST FOR YOUR DISTRICT?
WITH THE GOAL BEING TO REDUCE,
00:24:13ELIMINATE, MAKE IT POSSIBLE FOR
US TO HAVE KIDS PARTICIPATE IN
00:24:19NO COST TO THE ACADEMIC PROGRAM.
KAREN: THANK YOU BOTH VERY MUCH
00:24:27FOR BEING HERE.
I APPRECIATE IT.
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