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00:00:32>> WE CONTINUE OUR SERIES OF
SIT-DOWN INTERVIEWS WITH THE
00:00:37MAJOR PARTY CANDIDATES FOR
STATEWIDE EXECUTIVE OFFICES AND
00:00:39THIS WEEK, THE TOP OF THE
TICKET.
00:00:40THE DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATE FOR
GOVERNOR, ED FITZGERALD, THIS
00:00:42WEEK IN "THE STATE OF OHIO".
LAST MONTH, SEVEN OF THE EIGHT
00:00:52CANDIDATES FROM THE TWO MAJOR
PARTIES RUNNING FOR THE FOUR
00:00:56STATEWIDE EXECUTIVE OFFICES
BESIDES GOVERNOR -- ATTORNEY
00:00:57GENERAL, SECRETARY OF STATE,
AUDITOR, AND TREASURER --
00:00:59APPEARED ON THE SHOW.
THIS WEEK, WE TURN TO THE TOP OF
00:01:01THE TICKET.
THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE IS
00:01:08EXTREMELY IMPORTANT, OF COURSE,
AND SINCE WE MOST LIKELY WON'T
00:01:11GET A CHANCE TO SEE THESE
MAJOR PARTY CANDIDATES DEBATE,
00:01:18I'VE OFFERED THE OPPORTUNITY TO
BOTH OF THE MAJOR PARTY
00:01:20CANDIDATES TO BE THE WHOLE SHOW.
THIS WEEK, I SIT DOWN WITH ED
00:01:21FITZGERALD.
FITZGERALD HAS BEEN RUNNING FOR
00:01:24GOVERNOR SINCE APRIL OF LAST
YEAR.
00:01:25HE DIDN'T FACE ANY WELL-KNOWN
OPPOSITION IN THE DEMOCRATIC
00:01:27PRIMARY EARLIER THIS YEAR, AND
SAILED TO A WIN IN MAY TO BECOME
00:01:29THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY'S OFFICIAL
NOMINEE TO RUN AGAINST
00:01:33REPUBLICAN INCUMBENT JOHN
KASICH.
00:01:36FITZGERALD IS CURRENTLY THE
CUYAHOGA COUNTY EXECUTIVE, THE
00:01:38FIRST PERSON EVER TO HOLD THAT
OFFICE, WHICH WAS CREATED IN THE
00:01:40WAKE OF A HUGE CORRUPTION
SCANDAL IN COUNTY GOVERNMENT.
00:01:42BEFORE THAT, FITZGERALD WAS A
SPECIAL AGENT WITH THE FBI'S
00:01:44ORGANIZED CRIME UNIT IN CHICAGO,
THEN ASSISTANT CUYAHOGA COUNTY
00:01:47PROSECUTOR, A CITY COUNCILMEMBER
IN THE CLEVELAND SUBURB OF
00:01:50LAKEWOOD, AND THEN THAT CITY'S
MAYOR.
00:01:53HE'S RUNNING WITH SHAREN
NEUHARDT, A DAYTON-AREA LAWYER
00:01:55AND ADVOCATE FOR WOMEN'S HEALTH
ISSUES.
00:01:57NEUHARDT BECAME THE NOMINEE FOR
LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR AFTER
00:02:02SENATOR ERIC KEARNEY STEPPED
ASIDE BECAUSE OF REPORTS THAT HE
00:02:05OWED MORE THAN $800,000 IN BACK
TAXES.
00:02:09THIS HAS BEEN A CHALLENGING
PERIOD FOR FITZGERALD, BECAUSE
00:02:13OF THE AUGUST REVELATION THAT HE
DIDN'T HAVE A VALID DRIVER'S
00:02:15LICENSE FOR A DECADE, WHICH CAME
AFTER A POLICE REPORT FROM 2012
00:02:18SURFACED SHOWING HIM PARKED IN
THE EARLY MORNING HOURS IN A
00:02:21DARK CAR WITH A WOMAN HE'S NOT
MARRIED TO.
00:02:24NOT LONG AFTER SOME OF
FITZGERALD'S TOP STAFFERS
00:02:27DEPARTED HIS CAMPAIGN.
AND FITZGERALD IS FAR BEHIND
00:02:29KASICH IN FUNDRAISING.
KASICH HAS MORE THAN $12.5
00:02:32MILLION IN THE BANK COMPARED TO
FITZGERALD'S MORE THAN $2.5
00:02:36MILLION.
BUT FITZGERALD'S TEAM HAS BEEN
00:02:39INSISTENT THAT HIS CAMPAIGN IS
CONTINUING FULL STEAM.
00:02:43HIS SPOKESPERSON ISSUED A
STATEMENT IN AUGUST THAT READS
00:02:45IN PART, "WE HAVE EVERY
INTENTION OF CONTINUING TO WAGE
00:02:47A COMPETITIVE, VOCAL CAMPAIGN
AGAINST GOVERNOR KASICH AND HIS
00:02:51RECORD IN OHIO.
WE WILL BE MAKING A SIGNIFICANT
00:02:53INVESTMENT IN ODP'S FIELD AND
VOTER TURNOUT PROGRAM.
00:02:57WITH EARLY VOTE APPROACHING,
THIS STRATEGIC SHIFT IN
00:02:59RESOURCES WILL ALLOW US TO FOCUS
ON TURNING OUT THE SPORADIC
00:03:03DEMOCRATIC VOTERS WHO HAVE MADE
THE DIFFERENCE IN SO MANY PAST
00:03:06ELECTIONS."
I'M VERY PLEASED TO WELCOME ED
00:03:14FITZGERALD HERE TO BE SHOW THIS
WEEK.
00:03:16THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.
>> GOOD TO BE HERE.
00:03:18>> LET'S START WITH THE POLL
THIS WEEK.
00:03:20IT SHOWS YOU ARE DOWN 35% WOULD
LIKELY VOTERS.
00:03:26ONLY 22% SAY THEY ARE LIKELY TO
CHANGE THEIR MIND.
00:03:3248% SAY THEY HAVE NOT HEARD
ENOUGH ABOUT YOU.
00:03:35WHAT DO YOU THINK WHEN YOU READ
THOSE NUMBERS AREA -- NUMBERS?
00:03:37>> IS A TOUGH ELECTION.
WE HAVE ALWAYS BEEN AN UNDERDOG
00:03:42IN THE ELECTION.
WE STILL ARE.
00:03:46WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN
30 DAYS TO GO.
00:03:49I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT
IS CONSISTENT IS A LOT OF PEOPLE
00:03:54HAVE NOT FOCUSED ON THIS
ELECTION AND GOVERNOR KASICH'S
00:03:57NUMBERS ARE VERY, VERY SOFT VERY
WHEN WE HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITH
00:04:01REAL VOTERS, WHICH IS WHAT WE
HAVE BEEN FOCUSING ON, PEOPLE DO
00:04:05NOT AGREE WITH THE DIRECTION THE
STATE IS HEADING.
00:04:11THEY DO NOT AGREE WITH HIS
POLICIES ON A NUMBER OF THINGS.
00:04:13WE HOPE THAT ONCE PEOPLE FOCUS
ON THAT THEY WILL GO OUR WAY.
00:04:17WE ARE CONFIDENT ON MOST ISSUES,
PEOPLE AGREE WITH US.
00:04:22>> I WILL GET TO THE CAMPAIGN,
BUT LET'S START WITH POLICY
00:04:26ISSUES.
YOU SAID YOU WILL CREATE A
00:04:27UNIVERSAL PRESCHOOL ROW GRAHAM,
PUT A MORATORIUM ON THE THIRD
00:04:31GRADE READING GUARANTEE, MAKE
COLLEGE A PRIORITY, AND STOP
00:04:38WHAT YOU CALL THE RACE TO
PRIVATIZE OUR PUBLIC EDUCATION
00:04:43SYSTEM.
BEYOND THAT, WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE
00:04:44PEOPLE TO KNOW ABOUT YOUR HIGHER
EDUCATION PROGRAM?
00:04:49>> THAT IS A GOOD START.
BUT REALLY WHAT YOU HAVE IN OHIO
00:04:52IS A DISINVESTMENT IN PUBLIC
EDUCATION.
00:04:57WE ARE FOR PUBLIC EDUCATION AND
THEY ARE NOT.
00:04:59IT REALLY IS THAT SIMPLE.
IF YOU ARE GOING TO TAKE TOLD
00:05:06MILLION DOLLARS OUT OF PUBLIC
EDUCATION, IF YOU'RE NOT GOING
00:05:08TO FUND EARLY CHILDHOOD
EDUCATION AM A COLLEGE EDUCATION
00:05:13BECOMES LESS AFFORDABLE, WHICH
IT HAS IN THE LAST FOUR YEARS,
00:05:17YOU AT ALL OF THAT UP AND IT
TOTALS A DISINVESTMENT IN
00:05:20EDUCATION.
THAT OUGHT TO BE ONE OF THE TOP
00:05:22PRIORITIES.
THE GOVERNOR HAS ALMOST NEVER
00:05:26SAID WHAT HIS PRIORITIES ARE IF
YOU WAS ABLE TO GET A SECOND
00:05:30TERM EXCEPT THAT THERE WILL BE
ADDITIONAL TAX CUTS.
00:05:33WE WILL NOT BE ABLE TO EDUCATE
KIDS BY GIVING ADDITIONAL TAX
00:05:36CUTS TO THE WEALTHIEST PEOPLE IN
THE STATE.
00:05:39WE NEED TO START WITH A REAL
DIALOGUE WITH TEACHERS.
00:05:42YOU HAVE THIS TERRIBLE STRIKE
GOING ON RIGHT NOW, AS YOU KNOW
00:05:45AND IT IS REALLY INSTRUCTIVE
ABOUT THE FRUSTRATION THAT
00:05:48TEACHERS AND PARENTS FEEL.
THEY KEEP SEEING THERE IS MORE
00:05:53AND MORE STANDARDIZED TESTING,
BUT LESS RESOURCES FOR TEACHERS
00:05:56AND KIDS.
WE HAVE TO CHANGE DIRECTION.
00:05:58>> AT ME ASK YOU ABOUT THE
COMMON CORE.
00:06:03YOU DO NOT THINK THE CONCEPT IS
A BAD THING, BUT YOU HAVE
00:06:05CONCERNS ABOUT THE WAY IT IS
BEING IMPLEMENTED?
00:06:07>> STANDARDS ARE FINE.
THE STANDARD SHOULD NOT BE
00:06:13IMPOSED ON SCHOOL DISTRICTS AT
THE SAME TIME YOU ARE ROBBING
00:06:16SCHOOL DISTRICT SUBJECT
RESOURCES TO IMPLEMENT THOSE
00:06:18STANDARDS.
IF YOU TALK TO TEACHERS, ONE
00:06:20THING YOU WILL NOTICE -- IT
ALMOST ALWAYS COMES BACK TO
00:06:25CONVERSATIONS I HAVE HAD WITH
TEACHERS.
00:06:26CONTRAST WITH GOVERNOR KASICH
WHERE THERE HAS BEEN A NUMBER OF
00:06:30DISRESPECTFUL THINGS HE HAS
SAID, ANTAGONISTIC THINGS HE IS
00:06:34SAID TO PUBLIC SCHOOL TEACHERS.
I THINK YOU WILL COME UP WITH
00:06:37POLICIES IN THE CLASSROOM.
WHAT PEOPLE ARE TELLING ME IS
00:06:42THEY DO NOT HAVE A PROBLEM WITH
THE OVERALL CONCEPT OF HAVING
00:06:45STANDARDS.
THEY DO NOT AGREE WITH THE STATE
00:06:47COMING IN, SAYING, HERE IS WHAT
THE STANDARD IS GOING TO BE.
00:06:50BY THE WAY WE WILL TAKE AWAY
YOUR MONEY TO GET THE JOB DONE
00:06:53AND WE WILL HAVE MORE FOCUS ON
STANDARDIZED TESTING.
00:06:56THIS OBSESSION WE HAVE BUILT
WITH STANDARDIZED TESTING I
00:07:01THINK IS OUT OF CONTROL.
IT HAS TAKEN AWAY FROM
00:07:03INSTRUCTION TIME.
IT IS TAKING THE JOY AND PASSION
00:07:07AND CREATIVITY OUT OF EDUCATION
AND I THINK WE NEED ANOTHER
00:07:10DIRECTION.
>> ON TAXES, YOU HAVE SAID THAT
00:07:13GOVERNOR KASICH IS NOT A TAX
CUTTER, BUT A TAX SHIFT HER.
00:07:18AND HIS TAX POLICY
DISPROPORTIONATELY BENEFITS THE
00:07:20WEALTHY AND THE MIDDLE --
UPPER-MIDDLE-CLASS.
00:07:23YOU ARE NOT THE ONLY ONE SAYING
THAT.
00:07:27YOU SAY THE WEALTHY SHOULD PAY
THEIR FAIR SHARE.
00:07:29HOW DO YOU DETERMINE WHAT THE
FAIR SHARE IS?
00:07:34>> IF SOMEONE MAKES THREE AND A
THOUSAND DOLLARS A YEAR OR MORE,
00:07:42-- $300,000 A YEAR MORE, THEY
GOT A $6,000 TAX-CUT.
00:07:46I DO NOT THINK THAT WAS A GOOD
USE OF MONEY.
00:07:50PROPERTY TAXES HAVE BEEN GOING
THROUGH THE ROOF IN THIS STATE
00:07:53BECAUSE HE IS TAKING MONEY AWAY
FROM LOCAL COMMUNITIES AND
00:07:56SCHOOLS.
I AM NOT COMING INTO OFFICE AT
00:07:59THE STATE-LEVEL SAYING, HERE ARE
THE TAXES WE ARE GOING TO RAISE.
00:08:02WHAT I HAVE SAID THOUGH IS, HIS
TAX POLICIES HAVE ALREADY
00:08:07OVERWHELMINGLY BENEFITED THOSE
DOING FAIRLY WELL.
00:08:10ESPECIALLY IF YOU MADE $60,000 A
YEAR OR LESS, YOU GOT ALMOST NO
00:08:15RELIEF AND YOU MIGHT HAVE GOTTEN
A TAX INCREASE, DEPENDING ON
00:08:18YOUR PROPERTY TAXES.
IT IS DISINGENUOUS FOR GOVERNOR
00:08:23KASICH TO SAY I BALANCED THE
BUDGET AND I DID NOT RAISE
00:08:25TAXES.
HE DID RAISE TAXES.
00:08:26HE RAISED PROPERTY TAXES THROUGH
THE PROPERTY TAX EXEMPTION.
00:08:35HE WAS NOT HONEST ABOUT THAT
DURING HIS ORIGINAL CAMPAIGN AND
00:08:39HE HAS NOT BEEN IN THIS CAMPAIGN
EITHER.
00:08:44>> YOU SAY YOU BRING YOUR
BUDGETARY POLICIES TO COLUMBUS
00:08:47IF ELECTED.
YOU WILL INVEST AN AVERAGE
00:08:49OHIOANS.
YOU WOULD REINSTATE THE
00:08:53HOMESTEAD TAX EXEMPT IN --
EXEMPTION YOU MENTIONED.
00:08:57YOU WILL FIND PRE-K.
HOW DO YOU DO THAT WITHOUT
00:09:02RAISING TAXES?
CAN YOU?
00:09:03SET THOUGH I HAVE BEEN IN AN
EXECUTIVE POSITION IN GOVERNMENT
00:09:08BEFORE AS MAYOR AND COUNTY
EXECUTIVE.
00:09:10I FACE THE SAME QUESTIONS.
WHEN I RAN FOR MAYOR, I SAID I
00:09:13WANTED TO DO A PUBLIC SAFETY
INITIATIVE AND A HOUSING KOS
00:09:19DASHCODE INITIATIVE.
WHEN I RAN FOR COUNTY OFFICE,
00:09:21THE SAME THING.
WE SHOULD DO EARLY CHILDHOOD,
00:09:27COLLEGE AFFORDABILITY, I.T.,
INFRASTRUCTURE INVESTMENT.
00:09:30WE DID ALL OF THOSE THINGS.
WE DID NOT FIND THEM BY RAISING
00:09:33TAXES.
WE DID IT BY MAKING GOVERNMENT
00:09:36MORE EFFICIENT.
YOU HAVE NOT HAD THAT HAPPEN IN
00:09:39OHIO.
YOU UP AT A LOT OF THE METS IN
00:09:40OHIO THAT HAVE HAD TO BECOME
MORE EFFICIENT, BUT STATE
00:09:44GOVERNMENT, AS FAR AS I CAN
TELL, HAS NOT.
00:09:46I THINK IT IS WRONG TO SAY IF
YOU WANT TO RAISE $1 BILLION FOR
00:09:55EDUCATION YOU HAVE TO RAISE
TAXES $1 BILLION.
00:09:56ANYONE WHO IS FISCALLY
RESPONSIBLE OR CONSERVATIVE,
00:10:02WHICH I CONSIDER MYSELF TO BE, I
DO NOT THINK YOU COME IN AND SAY
00:10:06WE HAVE TO RAISE TAXES PENNY FOR
PENNY WITH THAT.
00:10:08COULD THERE BE ANY CIRCUMSTANCES
WHERE YOU LOOK AT WHETHER OR NOT
00:10:13MIDDLE-CLASS PEOPLE SHOULD GET A
TAX CUT OR TAX RELIEF?
00:10:15YES, YOU CAN LOOK AT THOSE
THINGS, BUT YOU SHOULD NOT
00:10:18DEFAULT TO THAT POSITION, IN MY
OPINION.
00:10:21>> WOULD YOU ROLL BACK THE TAX
CUTS THE GOVERNOR HAS PUT INTO
00:10:26PLACE?
>> NOT PART OF MY PLANT.
00:10:27MY PLAN IS TO SAY, LOOK, WE HAVE
GONE DOWN THAT ROAD.
00:10:33GOVERNOR KASICH HAS SAID
REPEATEDLY HE WANTS TO DO MORE
00:10:36OF THE SAME TAX CUTS.
I THINK THAT IS A MISPLACED
00:10:38PRIORITY.
I DO NOT THINK YOU HAVE THE
00:10:41RESPONSIBILITY AS THE CANDIDATE
FOR GOVERNOR TO RELEASE THE
00:10:44ENTIRE ALTERNATIVE BUDGET.
WHAT I DO THINK YOU SHOULD TELL
00:10:47VOTERS IS, THESE WILL BE MY TOP
PRIORITIES, AND TO ME THAT IS
00:10:50RESTORING LOCAL GOVERNMENT
FUNDING AND MAKING MORE
00:10:53INVESTMENT IN EDUCATION.
I THINK WE CAN DO THAT UNDER OUR
00:10:54CURRENT TAX STRUCTURE.
>> SO YOU ARE SAYING YOU WOULD
00:10:58NOT NEED A TAX INCREASE AND YOU
WOULD NOT NECESSARILY NEED TO
00:11:03PULL BACK ON THE TAX CUTS THE
KASICH ADMINISTRATION HAS PUT IN
00:11:07PLACE?
>> MY PREFERENCE IS IF A TAX
00:11:10INCREASE HAS TO BE DONE, IT IS A
LAST RESORT.
00:11:14I HAVE BEEN SUCCESSFUL SEVEN
YEARS IN A ROW DOING THAT.
00:11:16I HOPE I COULD BE AS GOVERNOR,
TOO.
00:11:18>> LET ME ASK YOU ABOUT JOBS
OHIO.
00:11:21THE FIRST HEAD OF JOBS OHIO SAID
"I THINK WHEN PEOPLE LOOK BACK,
00:11:30IT IS GOING TO BE A COUPLE YEARS
STILL, IT WILL BE ONE OF THE
00:11:33MOST IMPORTANT LEGACIES WE HAVE
IN THE STATE."
00:11:36WHAT WOULD YOU DO WITH JOBS OHIO
THAT WOULD LEAD TO THE CREATION
00:11:43OF MORE OF WHAT YOU THINK WOULD
BE GOOD JOBS AND WHAT WOULD BE
00:11:48MORE TRANSPARENCY?
>> HE HAS A LOT OF GALL.
00:11:50HERE IS A GUY WHO CAME IN OUT OF
STATE, USE THE AGENCY FOR A
00:11:54SHORT TIME, AND THEN USED
CONTACTS HE MADE TO CREATE HIS
00:11:59OWN PUBLIC INVESTMENT FUNDS AND
HAS MADE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS
00:12:01FROM THAT.
I DO NOT TRUST HIS WORD, QUITE
00:12:06FRANKLY, ON ANYTHING.
HE BASICALLY HAD THE GOVERNMENT
00:12:07SET UP AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT
FUND, MAKE IT PRIVATE, STOP THE
00:12:14AUDITOR OF THE STATE FROM BEING
ABLE TO AUDIT IT, AND HAVE ONE
00:12:16OF HIS TEST FRIENDS IN CHARGE OF
THE WHOLE THING.
00:12:22YOU DO NOT HAVE TO TAKE MY WORD
FOR IT.
00:12:24HOW IS THE STATE OF OHIO DOING
OBJECTIVELY COMPARED TO OTHER
00:12:27STATES WHEN IT COMES TO JOB
CREATION?
00:12:29THE ANSWER IS, WE ARE 41ST OUT
OF 50 STATES.
00:12:34WE HAVE HAD 22 MONTHS IN A ROW
OF BEING BELOW THE NATIONAL JOB
00:12:39CREATION AVERAGE.
SO THE PROMISES MADE IN 2010
00:12:44HAVE NOT BEEN KEPT.
THE WHOLE IDEA WAS WE WOULD DO
00:12:48ALL OF THESE TAX CUTS, WE WOULD
CREATE THIS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT
00:12:52FUND AND IT WOULD END UP
CREATING AN ECONOMIC BOOM.
00:12:55AND EVERYBODY KNOWS WE ARE BELOW
THE NATIONAL AVERAGE.
00:12:58EVERYBODY THAT IS LIVING IN
REALITY KNOWS THAT.
00:12:59BUT IT IS ONE REASON GOVERNOR
KASICH WILL NOT SUBMIT TO A
00:13:05DEBATE.
HE WANTS TO COME DOWN THE
00:13:06DISCUSSION AND SAY, WE HAVE MORE
JOBS THAN WE DID DURING THE
00:13:13RECESSION.
SO DO ALL 50 STATES.
00:13:14THEY REALLY TALK DOWN TO PEOPLE.
ALL 50 STATES LOST JOBS.
00:13:18ALL 50 STATES GAINED JOBS DURING
THE RECOVERY.
00:13:22DEMOCRATIC STATES, REPUBLICAN
STATES, RUN BY LIBERALS,
00:13:25CONSERVATIVES, MODERATES.
THEY ALL DID.
00:13:28THE QUESTION IS, ARE WE
OUTPERFORMING THE REST OF THE
00:13:31COUNTRY?
THE ANSWER TO THAT IS NO.
00:13:32>> WOULD YOU KEEP JOBS OHIO?
COULD IT BE UNRAVELED AT THIS
00:13:37POINT?
>> THAT IS A GOOD QUESTION.
00:13:41I PREFER THE TRADITIONAL MODEL
OF HAVING AN ACCOUNTABLE PUBLIC
00:13:46ENTITY.
FAILING THAT, IF I WAS
00:13:49UNSUCCESSFUL IN GETTING BACK TO
THAT MORE ACCOUNTABLE MODEL, I
00:13:56WOULD AT LEAST TRY TO MAKE THE
SYSTEM AS OPEN AND TRANSPARENT
00:14:00AS POSSIBLE.
WHETHER WE COULD DO THAT JUST
00:14:03THROUGH APPOINTMENTS FOR THE
BOARD -- THE FACT THAT WE TAKE
00:14:04THE BIGGEST ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT
AGENCY AND THE STATE AND PUT IT
00:14:09BEYOND THE REACH OF PUBLIC
AUDITS, I THINK IS JUST
00:14:13SCANDALOUS.
YOU ARE JUST ASKING FOR THERE TO
00:14:16BE EVEN MORE CONFLICTS OF
INTEREST AND HAVE ALREADY BEEN
00:14:19REVEALED SO FAR.
AND THEY HAVE BEEN.
00:14:20>> LET ME ASK YOU ABOUT EARLY
VOTING.
00:14:24WE WERE SUPPOSED TO BE DOING
EARLY VOTING THIS WEEK, BUT
00:14:28ACCORDING TO RECENT COURT
RULINGS, THEY TOOK BACK THE
00:14:33EARLY VOTING WEEK, WHICH
REPUBLICANS WANTED TO DO.
00:14:35YOU SAY IF REGISTERED DEMOCRATS
DO TURNOUT YOU WILL HAVE A GOOD
00:14:43SHOT AT WINNING, BUT THIS IS A
YEAR WHEN DEMOCRATS TYPICALLY DO
00:14:46NOT TURN OUT.
I AM WONDERING, HOW DO YOU TALK
00:14:49TO PEOPLE AT RALLIES AND TELL
THEM, THIS IS A YEAR YOU HAVE TO
00:14:53GO OUT TO VOTE?
THEY HAVE ONE LESS WEEK AND
00:14:56WEEKEND TO DO IT.
>> SHAME ON ANYONE, DEMOCRAT OR
00:14:59REPUBLICAN, WHO HAS AS PART OF
THEIR POLITICAL STRATEGY, HOW DO
00:15:04WE MAKE IT TOUGHER FOR PEOPLE TO
VOTE?
00:15:06THE FACTS THAT REPUBLICANS WERE
CONGRATULATING THEMSELVES
00:15:11BECAUSE THEY TOOK AWAY A WEEK OF
VOTING FROM PEOPLE, I THINK IS
00:15:14QUITE DISGUSTING, QUITE FRANKLY.
THAT IS A CIVIL RIGHTS ISSUE.
00:15:18AND THE FEDERAL COURT, THE LOWER
COURT SAID OVER AND OVER AND
00:15:23OVER AGAIN IN THEIR MORE
EXPANDED RULINGS, THEY SAID, IF
00:15:27YOU TAKE THIS AWAY IT IS
AFFECTING LOWER-INCOME PEOPLE IN
00:15:32PARTICULAR AND AFRICAN-AMERICANS
IN PARTICULAR.
00:15:33WHO CAN CELEBRATE THAT KIND OF
RULING?
00:15:36I THINK THE FOLKS WHO PUSH FOR
THAT, SHAME ON THEM.
00:15:38I THINK IN TERMS OF GETTING
PEOPLE OUT TO VOTE, WE WILL TAKE
00:15:42WHATEVER PROCESS WE HAVE AND WE
WILL DEAL WITH AUTO BURG -- WITH
00:15:48WHATEVER CARDS ARE DEALT.
OUR CAMPAIGN IS ALMOST
00:15:53EXCLUSIVELY FOCUSED ON GETTING
OUT THE VOTE, TALKING TO THE
00:15:55VOTERS WHO MAY SHOW UP IN A
PRESIDENTIAL YEAR, BUT THEN TAKE
00:15:58A YEAR OR TWO OFF AND SAY, YOU
KNOW WHAT?
00:16:03THERE ARE A LOT OF REALLY
IMPORTANT ISSUES AT STAKE.
00:16:06IT IS REALLY IMPORTANT TO SHOW
UP IN 2014.
00:16:10>> THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY HAD
QUITE A MACHINE IN THOSE YEARS
00:16:16GETTING CONCERNED VOTERS OUT.
IT DOES NOT SEEM TO BE THE CASE
00:16:20THIS YEAR.
I AM WONDERING IF YOU ARE AS
00:16:24APPOINTED THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY
DOES NOT SEEM TO HAVE THAT
00:16:26MACHINE FIRED UP FOR YOU --
DISAPPOINTED THE DEMOCRATIC
00:16:30PARTY DOES NOT SEEM TO HAVE THAT
MACHINE FIRED UP FOR YOU?
00:16:31>> 2012 WAS AN ENTIRELY
DIFFERENT SITUATION.
00:16:37YOU HAD THE OBAMA CAMPAIGN
SPENDING MAY $100 MILLION IN THE
00:16:41STATE.
THERE WAS A REALLY STRONG
00:16:47GRASSROOTS EFFORT.
THERE WAS A LOT OF ORGANIZED
00:16:49LABOR.
ORGANIZED LABOR HAS BEEN VERY
00:16:54INVOLVED IN THIS AS WELL.
THEY HAVE BEEN WORKING HARD TO
00:16:57IDENTIFY THOSE EXACT SAME
VOTERS.
00:16:58YOU HAD ABOUT TWO POINT TWO
MILLION VOTES AGAINST SENATE
00:17:07BILL FIVE.
THOSE VOTES ARE OUT THERE AND WE
00:17:10WILL TALK TO THEM AND CONTACT
THEM BEFORE NOVEMBER 4.
00:17:14>> HOW DO YOU DO THAT WITH
ARGUABLY FIVE TIMES LESS MONEY
00:17:17THAN YOUR OPPONENT HAS?
>> THE SAME WAY I BEAT OPPONENTS
00:17:21WHO HAD FOUR OR TIMES MORE THAN
ME.
00:17:27IF YOU HAVE A MESSAGE YOU
BELIEVE IN, THAT PEOPLE RESPOND
00:17:30TO, THE PEOPLE CARE ABOUT, IF
YOU HAVE COMMITTED VOLUNTEERS,
00:17:33WHICH WE DO, IF YOU HAVE PEOPLE
THAT FEEL STRONGLY ABOUT
00:17:39ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES OR ECONOMIC
ISSUES OR VOTING RIGHTS ISSUES
00:17:42AND THEY ARE GOING OUT THERE AND
HAVING CONVERSATIONS WITH PEOPLE
00:17:46-- IT IS NOT THE EASIEST WAY TO
WIN AN ELECTION.
00:17:49IT IS NOT A TOP-DOWN WAY TO WIN
AN ELECTION.
00:17:51YOU DO NOT GET TO SIT AT HOME
ALL DAY.
00:17:56BUT THERE ARE LOTS OF PEOPLE
ACROSS THE STATE KNOCKING ON
00:17:59DOORS, CALLING PEOPLE UP AND
SAYING THIS ELECTION MATTERS.
00:18:02>> AND DOING THAT IN THE MIDST
OF A NATIONAL REPORT THAT YOUR
00:18:07CAMPAIGN HAS IMPLODED, THAT YOUR
CAMPAIGN IMPERILS OTHER
00:18:10DEMOCRATS ON THE TICKET.
HOW FRUSTRATING IS THAT FOR
00:18:14PEOPLE WORKING ON BEHALF OF YOU
AND YOU YOURSELF WHEN YOU HAVE
00:18:17THIS NATIONAL WORK SHINING AND
UNFAVORABLE SPOTLIGHT ON YOU?
00:18:21>> WHAT PEOPLE USUALLY MAKE
DECISIONS BASED ON IS HOW WAS
00:18:26THEIR FAMILY DOING AND HOW IS
THEIR COMMUNITY DOING?
00:18:28IF YOU GO SOMEPLACE, LET'S SAY,
MARION, OHIO AND YOU TALK TO
00:18:33SOMEBODY WHO IS A POLICE OFFICER
THERE AND THEY ARE SAYING THEY
00:18:36HAVE HAD TO CUT BACK ON THE
LOCAL POLICE FORCE BECAUSE OF
00:18:39THE CUTS IN LOCAL GOVERNMENT,
AND THEN YOU SAY, DID YOU KNOW
00:18:44THE WASHINGTON POST SAID
SOMETHING NEGATIVE ABOUT YOUR
00:18:45POLITICAL CAMPAIGN?
YOU REALLY DO NOT CARE.
00:18:47WHAT THEY CARE ABOUT IS IS THE
STATE HEADED IN THE RIGHT
00:18:52DIRECTION OR NOT?
IS MY SCHOOL SYSTEM HEADED THE
00:18:55RIGHT DIRECTION OR NOT?
THAT IS WHAT PEOPLE CARE ABOUT.
00:18:59I KNOW THERE'S A TON OF COVERAGE
ABOUT WHO SAID WHAT, WHAT THIS
00:19:03AS PREDICTED, WHAT DOES THIS
POLL SAY.
00:19:05I GO BACK TO WHY I RAN FOR
OFFICE IN THE FIRST PLACE, YEARS
00:19:09AGO.
WHY IRAN TODAY.
00:19:13IT IS BECAUSE OF IT IS WHAT I
HAVE BELIEVED IN.
00:19:18I WILL NOT SAY I HAVE ENJOYED
EVERY SINGLE DAY OF CAMPAIGN,
00:19:22BUT I HAVE NEVER REGRETTED
RUNNING.
00:19:23WE TALK ABOUT WHAT WE BELIEVE IN
AND WE ARE TRYING TO SPEAK UP
00:19:27FOR PEOPLE THAT HAVE NOT BEEN
REPRESENTED IN THE LAST FOUR
00:19:31YEARS AND THAT IS VERY, VERY
IMPORTANT.
00:19:32>> THE TIME IS SHORT AND IT IS
TIME TO TALK ABOUT THOSE ISSUES,
00:19:37BUT ONE THING THAT STANDS OUT
FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE IS THE
00:19:40SITUATION WHERE YOU ARE WITH THE
WOMAN IN THE CAR IN THE EARLY
00:19:43MORNING HOURS AND THE DRIVERS
LICENSE ISSUE THAT FOLLOWED.
00:19:45I WANT TO ASK YOU IF YOU CAN
DIRECTLY EXPLAIN WHAT HAPPENED?
00:19:50WHY DID YOU NOT HAVE A VALID
DRIVERS LICENSE FOR ALMOST 10
00:19:56YEARS?
>> I DO NOT AGREE THAT THERE IS
00:20:02-- THAT IS WHAT MOST PEOPLE ARE
TALKING ABOUT.
00:20:06THERE'S A LOT OF MEDIA COVERAGE.
THAT IS VERY SUPERFICIAL.
00:20:10WE CAN TALK ABOUT JOHN KASICH
WROTE DRIVING RECORD.
00:20:14I DO NOT MEAN TO MAKE EXCUSES OR
TRY TO EXPLAIN THINGS AWAY.
00:20:18EVERYBODY MAKES MISTAKES, AND
THAT WAS A MISTAKE, AND YES, YOU
00:20:21SHOULD GET YOUR DRIVERS LICENSE
RENEWED.
00:20:22ARE WE SERIOUSLY GOING TO HAVE
AN ELECTION WHERE THAT IS
00:20:26SUPPOSED TO BE ONE OF THE
PRIMARY ISSUES?
00:20:27IS THAT AFFECTING ANYBODY FOR
LIFE?
00:20:32ANYBODY?
THE ANSWER IS NO.
00:20:32WE ALL HAVE RESPONSIBILITIES.
AS A CANDIDATE, I HAVE A
00:20:37RESPONSIBILITY TO TALK ABOUT
SERIOUS THINGS.
00:20:39JOURNALISTS HAVE A
RESPONSIBILITY TO TALK ABOUT
00:20:43SERIOUS THINGS.
AND VOTERS HAVE THE
00:20:47RESPONSIBILITY TO SAY, WHAT
ISSUES MATTER TO ME?
00:20:50ANYTHING THAT YOU SAID HAS ZERO
IMPACT ON MY ABILITY TO SERVE
00:20:54THE PUBLIC WHICH I HAVE DONE AS
A COUNTY EXECUTIVE, A MAYOR, AT
00:20:58COUNCILPERSON, AND ESPECIALLY
WITH THE FBI.
00:21:00TO DUMB IT DOWN IN THAT WAY, I
JUST THINK IT DOES A DISSERVICE
00:21:04TO THE PROCESS.
BUT HOPEFULLY WE CAN FOCUS ON
00:21:07REAL ISSUES AND THE GOVERNOR
WILL JOIN ME AND ACTUALLY DEBATE
00:21:10SOME OF THOSE ISSUES.
>> I ALSO WANT TO ASK YOU ABOUT
00:21:16THE PIECE IN THE TIMES THIS
WEEKEND.
00:21:17THE PARTY CHAIRMAN SAID "IF THE
CHAIRMAN IS SAYING I SHOULD HAVE
00:21:27MY AMBER ALERT WHEN IT RAINS."
DO YOU FEEL LIKE HE THREW YOU
00:21:32UNDER THE BUS?
>> I DO NOT REALLY CARE.
00:21:33I FOCUS EVERY SINGLE DAY ON
ISSUES PEOPLE CARE ABOUT.
00:21:38IF I'M TALKING ABOUT MYSELF OR
GOSSIP OR INNUENDO OR IF
00:21:41SOMEBODY SAYS, I WISH I'D SAID
THAT DIFFERENTLY -- I'M NOT
00:21:46DOING MY JOB.
THE LAST YEAR AT HALF, I HAVE
00:21:51BEEN IN ALL OF THE COUNTIES TOM
I HAVE TALKED TO PEOPLE ABOUT
00:21:56THINGS THAT THEY CARE ABOUT.
I HAVE HAD PEOPLE COME UP TO ME
00:21:59WITH TEARS IN THEIR EYES TALKING
ABOUT THERE HAS BEEN BEING LAID
00:22:01OFF FROM A PLANT.
A COME TO ME WITH TEARS IN THEIR
00:22:05EYES TALKING ABOUT HOW THEY HAVE
BEEN A TEACHER AND THEY SEE THAT
00:22:10THEIR PROFESSION IS UNDERMINED
BY THE POLICIES OF THIS
00:22:12ADMINISTRATION.
WHEN YOU WEIGH THIS AGAINST ALL
00:22:16OF THIS PEYTON PLACE GOSSIP
STUFF, IT IS JUST SILLY TO ME.
00:22:19I UNDERSTAND THERE IS A CERTAIN
PART OF POLITICS THAT IS SILLY,
00:22:24BUT THAT DOES NOT MEAN I HAVE TO
FOCUS ON AND I DON'T.
00:22:26>> JOHN KASICH HAS NOT SAID YOUR
NAME VERY OFTEN, IF EVEN ONCE.
00:22:33THE CAMPAIGN SAID WHEN THE
DEBATE DECISION CAME DOWN THAT
00:22:35YOUR CAMPAIGN IMPLODED.
IT IMPLIED THAT CASE IT DOES NOT
00:22:39TAKE YOU AS A SERIOUS CANDIDATE.
HOW DO YOU READ THAT?
00:22:42>> I MEAN, LOOK.
CANDIDATES HAVE A
00:22:47RESPONSIBILITY, AND ETHICAL
RESPONSIBILITIES OF -- TO SUBMIT
00:22:50TO PUBLIC DEBATE.
THE FIRST THING GOVERNOR
00:22:55KASICH'S CAMPAIGN SAID -- IT
WENT BACK AND FORTH.
00:22:57THEY HAVE NOT KEPT THEIR STORY
STRAIGHT.
00:23:00THEY SAID WE WILL SHOW UP FOR
THE DEBATES.
00:23:06THEY ARE NOT BEING HONEST ABOUT
THIS.
00:23:08WE WERE OFFERED SEVEN DEBATES.
WE ACCEPTED ALL OF THEM.
00:23:11WE ACCEPT THEM UNCONDITIONALLY.
GOVERNOR KASICH WILL BE THE
00:23:13FIRST GOVERNOR, I THINK SINCE
GOVERNOR RHODES, TO REFUSE TO
00:23:19DEBATE.
SOME OF THOSE ELECTIONS WERE
00:23:21CLOSE.
SOME WERE NOT CLOSE.
00:23:21BUT ALL OF THOSE CANDIDATES,
THEY THOUGHT THEY HAD AN ETHICAL
00:23:27RESPONSIBILITY AND IF YOU'RE
GOING TO ASK PEOPLE FOR THEIR
00:23:28VOTE, YOU OUGHT TO SUBMIT
YOURSELF TO PUBLIC QUESTIONING,
00:23:31YOU SHOULD SIT DOWN WITH YOUR
OPPONENT AND DISCUSS THE ISSUES.
00:23:35WHAT DOES THAT SAY ABOUT THE
ARROGANCE OF THIS CAMPAIGN OR
00:23:37THIS GOVERNOR THAT HE REFUSES TO
DO THAT?
00:23:39HE APPARENTLY SAID TODAY THAT HE
OFFERED TWO DEBATES AND WAS
00:23:44DENIED THEM.
MAYBE THERE WILL BE A DEBATE.
00:23:47BUT AGAIN, I DO NOT KNOW HOW ANY
VOTER CAN SERIOUSLY CONSIDER A
00:23:52CANDIDATE WHO REFUSES TO EVEN
SUBMIT THEMSELVES TO THE MOST
00:23:55BASIC, I THINK, REQUIREMENTS OF
MODERN DEMOCRACY, WHICH IS
00:24:02DEBATE YOUR OPPONENT ABOUT WHAT
YOU'RE COMPETING VISIONS ARE.
00:24:04BUT THAT LEVEL OF DISRESPECT HAS
BEEN SHOWN BEFORE IN THE
00:24:08CAMPAIGN AND THE ADMINISTRATION.
WE HOPE THEY WILL CHANGE.
00:24:10WE WILL SAY.
>> DO YOU FIND YOURSELF
00:24:14OPTIMISTIC WITH 30 DAYS TO GO?
HOW DO YOU FEEL QUESTION MARKS
00:24:17ABOUT IT IS A TOUGH CAMPAIGN.
WE -- HAVE YOU FEEL?
00:24:21>> IS A TOUGH CAMPAIGN.
THE ADVANTAGE IS PRIMARILY
00:24:31MONEY.
THEY ARE RUNNING A VERY
00:24:36WELL-FUNDED CAMPAIGN.
IN PART BECAUSE THEY HAVE TAKEN
00:24:38STATE POLICY AND PUT IT UP FOR
SALE TO THE HIGHEST BIDDER AND
00:24:40THAT HAS HELPED THEM RAISE
CAMPAIGN FUNDS.
00:24:45IT IS TOUGH.
I AM CONSTANTLY IN TOUCH WITH
00:24:47VOLUNTEERS AROUND THE STATE.
THEY ARE VERY MOTIVATED AS THEY
00:24:51ARE GOING DOOR-TO-DOOR TALKING
TO VOTERS.
00:24:52WE REMAIN HOPEFUL AND COMMITTED.
>> DO YOU EVER FEAR THAT YOU
00:24:59HAVE LET THEM DOWN BECAUSE OF
THE PROBLEMS YOUR CAMPAIGN HAS
00:25:01HAD QUESTION MARKS" NOPE -- DO
YOU EVER FEAR THAT YOU HAVE LET
00:25:08THEM DOWN BECAUSE THE BRONZE
EUROPE CAMPAIGN HAS HAD QUESTION
00:25:09MARKS" NOPE.
>> ALL RIGHT.
00:25:14THANK YOU.
NEXT WEEK, A SIT DOWN INTERVIEW
00:25:15WITH REPUBLICAN INCUMBENT JOHN
KASICH.
00:25:17AND THAT'S IT FOR THIS WEEK.
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