00:01:00 | >> PIT BULLS IN OHIO WILL NO LONGER BE LABELED AS "VICIOUS" |
00:01:02 | DOGS UNDER OHIO LAW. GOVERNOR JOHN KASICH SIGNED A |
00:01:04 | BILL THIS WEEK THAT CHANGES A LAW DEFINING A VICIOUS DOG AS |
00:01:07 | ONE THAT HAS SERIOUSLY HURT OR KILLED A PERSON, KILLED ANOTHER |
00:01:09 | DOG OR IS AMONG THOSE COMMONLY KNOWN AS PIT BULLS. |
00:01:15 | THE NEW MEASURE REMOVES THE REFERENCE TO PIT BULLS FROM THE |
00:01:18 | DEFINITION AND REQUIRES EVIDENCE TO PROVE PIT BULLS ARE |
00:01:21 | ACTUALLY VICIOUS. THE OHIO SUPREME COURT HAS |
00:01:24 | RULED IN FAVOR OF THE RIGHTS OF RE-CLASSIFIED SEX OFFENDERS TO |
00:01:27 | CHALLENGE THEIR STATUS AND ANY CONVICTIONS FOR NOT REPORTING |
00:01:30 | THEIR WHEREABOUTS TO AUTHORITIES. |
00:01:35 | IN A UNANIMOUS DECISION, THE COURT SAID THE SEX OFFENDER |
00:01:39 | REQUIREMENTS DON'T APPLY TO A COLUMBUS MAN WHO WAS CONVICTED |
00:01:46 | IN 1995 AND RELEASED FROM PRISON BEFORE A 1997 LAW RECLASSIFYING |
00:01:48 | SEX OFFENDERS TOOK EFFECT. AND THE HIGH COURT ALSO RULED |
00:01:50 | THAT PEOPLE OF "ORDINARY INTELLIGENCE" SHOULD KNOW LOUD |
00:01:53 | WHEN THEY HEAR LOUD. THE COURT UNANIMOUSLY UPHELD A |
00:01:55 | CITATION ISSUED TO JASON CARRICK OF RURAL WAYNE COUNTY ON |
00:01:57 | HALLOWEEN 2010. SHERIFF'S DEPUTIES HAD |
00:02:02 | RESPONDED TO CALLS THAT THE MUSIC FROM THE PARTY WAS SHAKING |
00:02:07 | WINDOWS A QUARTER OF A MILE AWAY. |
00:02:08 | CARRICK'S LAWYER HAD SAID THE LAW WAS UNCONSTITUTIONALLY |
00:02:13 | VAGUE, BUT THE JUSTICES RULED THE LAW CONTAINED STANDARDS |
00:02:14 | THAT SHOULD BE UNDERSTOOD BY ALMOST ANYONE. |
00:02:18 | EACH WEEK WE'RE DIGGING INTO A PART OF GOV. KASICH'S SECOND |
00:02:21 | STATE OF THE STATE SPEECH. THIS WEEK, WE'RE LOOKING DEEPER |
00:02:23 | INTO WHAT THE GOVERNOR SAID ABOUT ENERGY. |
00:02:25 | HE CALLED FOR AN ENERGY POLICY THAT MAKES OHIO INDEPENDENT, |
00:02:28 | USING COAL, RENEWABLES SUCH AS SOLAR, WIND AND GEOTHERMAL, NEW |
00:02:30 | IDEAS SUCH AS CAPTURING WASTE HEAT AND CONSERVATION. |
00:02:34 | AND OF COURSE HE MENTIONED THE RESOURCES AVAILABLE THROUGH THE |
00:02:37 | OIL AND NATURAL GAS BOOM IN OHIO, WHICH ARE INCREASINGLY |
00:02:39 | FOUND THROUGH HYDRAULIC FRACTURING OR "FRACKING." |
00:02:45 | >> WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR, WELL, BEFORE I WAS EVEN |
00:02:48 | SWORN IN. YOU CANNOT DEGRADE THE |
00:02:50 | ENVIRONMENT AT THE SAME TIME YOU'RE PRODUCING THIS INDUSTRY. |
00:02:52 | IT IS NOT ACCEPTABLE. AND IT'S NOT A FALSE CHOICE. |
00:03:00 | THE BIGGEST COMPANIES KNOW THAT YOU NEED TO HAVE TOUGH |
00:03:04 | ENVIRONMENTAL RULES. THEY CAN'T BE COMPLICATED. |
00:03:06 | THEY CAN'T BE OVER THE TOP, BUT WE NEED TO HAVE THEM BECAUSE WE |
00:03:09 | CAN'T HAVE SOME YAHOO COME INTO THE STATE AND DAMAGE THIS WHOLE |
00:03:12 | INDUSTRY BECAUSE THEY'RE IRRESPONSIBLE. |
00:03:13 | SO THE BIGGEST COMPANIES UNDERSTAND THAT WE NEED TO TAKE |
00:03:18 | CARE OF THINGS LIKE HIGH PRESSURE PIPELINES. |
00:03:22 | WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE A HIGH PRESSURE PIPELINE EXPLOSION IN |
00:03:27 | OUR STATE. WE HAVE TO TAKE CARE OF THE |
00:03:29 | GATHERING LINES. WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT THE |
00:03:32 | WELL HEAD IS NOT GOING TO CONTRIBUTE TO CONTAMINATION OF |
00:03:36 | THE GROUNDWATER. I MEAN, WE HAVE TO DO ALL OF |
00:03:38 | THESE THINGS. BUT WE CANNOT LET OUR FEARS |
00:03:40 | OUTWEIGH THE POTENTIAL. >> IT WASN'T LONG AFTER THOSE |
00:03:42 | COMMENTS THAT THE GOVERNOR WAS INTERRUPTED FOR THE FIRST TIME |
00:03:44 | BY ENVIRONMENTAL PROTESTORS, ONE SHOUTING, "WE WILL NOT BE |
00:03:45 | SILENT." A TOTAL OF NINE SHOUTED AT HIM |
00:03:49 | FOR THE NEXT FEW MINUTES UNTIL THEY WERE ALL EJECTED. |
00:03:50 | MORE THAN A HUNDRED DEMONSTRATORS STOOD OUTSIDE |
00:03:54 | WELLS ACADEMY, WHERE THE SPEECH WAS DELIVERED - SOME CARRYING |
00:03:56 | SIGNS CRITICAL OF THE FRACKING PROCESS AND NOTING THAT NEARLY |
00:03:58 | A DOZEN EARTHQUAKES HAD HAPPENED NEAR YOUNGSTOWN, NOT |
00:04:01 | FAR AWAY FROM STEUBENVILLE -- ALL CONNECTING TO A DEEP |
00:04:03 | INJECTION WELL USED FOR FRACKING WASTEWATER. |
00:04:07 | THE GOVERNOR DIDN'T GET MORE SPECIFIC ON HIS IDEAS ABOUT THE |
00:04:11 | INDUSTRY IN THAT IN THE SPEECH, BUT NOT LONG AFTERWARD, HE |
00:04:14 | AGREED WITH ATTORNEY GENERAL MIKE DEWINE IN SAYING OHIO'S |
00:04:17 | LAWS COVERING OIL AND NATURAL GAS DRILLING AREN'T TOUGH |
00:04:20 | ENOUGH. HE'S SUGGESTING FINES OF $10,000 |
00:04:23 | A DAY ON DRILLERS WHOSE WELLS POLLUTE GROUND WATER, UP FROM |
00:04:27 | THE CURRENT MAXIMUM OF $20,000 PER INCIDENT. |
00:04:29 | AND THE AG ALSO WANTS FULL DISCLOSURE BY DRILLERS ON THE |
00:04:35 | CHEMICALS IN FRACKWATER -- WHICH INTERESTINGLY IS SIMILAR |
00:04:39 | TO A BILL PROPOSED BY DEMOCRATIC SENATOR MICHAEL |
00:04:43 | SKINDELL LAST YEAR. BUT AN INDUSTRY SPOKESMAN SAID |
00:04:47 | THAT IT'S CONFUSING WHEN "POLICY MAKERS PURSUE STIFFER |
00:04:49 | REGULATIONS ON AN INDUSTRY THAT HAS ALREADY AGREED TO SOME OF |
00:04:51 | THE TOUGHEST STANDARDS IN THE COUNTRY." |
00:04:53 | MEANWHILE, THE PROGRESSIVE >> TOM STEWART, EXECUTIVE VICE |
00:05:07 | PRESIDENT OF THE OHIO OIL IAND GAS ASSOCIATION. |
00:05:14 | I WANT TO START WITH YOU, TOM. THIS BOOM HAS A POTENTIAL TO BE |
00:05:19 | TRANSFORMATIVE FOR EASTERN AND SOUTHERN OHIO, WHICH HAVE BEEN |
00:05:24 | AREAS SERIOUSLY ROCKED BY THE ECONOMY IN THE RECESSION. |
00:05:26 | ARE WE TALKING ABOUT 203,000 JOBS, WHICH THE INDUSTRY HAS |
00:05:34 | SAID, OR MORE LIKE 20,000 JOBS, SUCH AS IN A REPORT FROM OHIO |
00:05:38 | STATE? >> THE REPORTS THAT CAME OUT |
00:05:43 | LAST FALL THAT WAS PUBLISHED BY THE OHIO OIL AND GAS PROGRAM |
00:05:50 | PROJECTED OVER 200,000 JOBS, BASED ON THE EXPERIENCE OF THE |
00:05:58 | PENNSYLVANIA AND THE 40,000 DATAPOINT. |
00:06:03 | IT'S A REASONABLE ASSUMPTION TO MAKE, BUT WE HAVE TO REALIZE |
00:06:12 | THERE ARE ONLY FIVE HORIZONTAL WE DRILLED WELLS AND PRODUCTION |
00:06:15 | IN THE STATE TODAY. AND ABOUT 16 RIGS RUNNING. |
00:06:22 | WHAT WE HAVE IS A GREAT BIG SCIENCE PROJECT, AS WE TRY TO |
00:06:26 | UNDERSTAND THE BROOK, HOW IT BEHAVES, WHERE ARE THE GOOD |
00:06:29 | SPOTS, AND WHERE ARE THE BAD SPOTS. |
00:06:31 | NOBODY IS CONVINCED YET WHETHER THIS WILL WORK. |
00:06:34 | WE ARE ALL VERY HOPEFUL. THE INVESTMENT THAT HAS BEEN |
00:06:39 | MADE IN LAND ACQUISITIONS SIGNAL A VERY WELL CAPITALIZED |
00:06:45 | COMPANIES HAVE HOPE THIS WILL WORK. |
00:06:47 | IT WILL TAKE SOME YEARS OF DRILLING AND A LOT OF ANALYSIS |
00:06:49 | AND A LOT OF INVESTMENT BEFORE WE HAVE THAT ANSWER. |
00:06:51 | IF IT DOES WORK, I THINK WE WILL SEE MAJOR INCREASES IN JOBS FROM |
00:06:58 | THIS INDUSTRY. I THINK THERE IS A STUDY THAT |
00:07:01 | COMES OUT SOON THAT HAS SOMEWHAT LESSER A FIGURE. |
00:07:03 | WHATEVER THE FIGURE IS, IT WILL BE A SUBSTANTIAL BENEFIT TO |
00:07:07 | STATE OF OHIO. >> BUT MAYBE NOT 200,000 JOBS. |
00:07:13 | >> IS HARD TO SAY. TALK TO MEET IN FIVE YEARS. |
00:07:17 | THAT'S BASED UPON IF IT WORKS. WE NEED TO KNOW. |
00:07:21 | RIGHT NOW, WE ARE IN VERY TENUOUS TIMES. |
00:07:24 | THERE'S BEEN SO MUCH NATURAL GAS PRODUCED IN THE UNITED STATES. |
00:07:28 | NATURAL GAS IS TRADING AT A 20- YEAR LOW. |
00:07:32 | DRY GAS PLAY DOES NOT MAKE SENSE. |
00:07:38 | THERE ARE A LOT OF MOVING PARTS HERE. |
00:07:45 | WE HAVE TO SEE THEM IN ORDER FOR THIS TO WORK OUT. |
00:07:49 | >> LET ME BRING JACK INTO THIS CONVERSATION. |
00:07:52 | YOU EVEN HAVE SOME DEMOCRATS THAT HAVE BEEN ON THE SITE OF |
00:07:55 | ENVIRONMENTAL ACTIVISTS OVER THE YEARS WHO SAY THIS IS A GOOD |
00:08:00 | OPPORTUNITY FOR EASTERN AND SOUTHERN OHIO. |
00:08:03 | DEMOCRATS ARE SAYING THIS IS SOMETHING TO CONSIDER. |
00:08:05 | >> WE ACKNOWLEDGE THAT. THERE'S THE POTENTIAL FOR A LOT |
00:08:08 | OF JOBS AND INVESTMENT HERE. WE ALL USE NATURAL GAS. |
00:08:12 | WE ALL USE OIL AND PETROLEUM PRODUCTS EVERY DAY. |
00:08:17 | WE ALSO WANT TO MANAGE THE RISK. THIS IS AN INDUSTRIAL ACTIVITY. |
00:08:24 | THERE'S A TRIPLE THREAT TO OUR FAIR LAND AND WATER. |
00:08:27 | -- TO OUR AIR, LAND, AND WATER. LOOK AT LAND. |
00:08:40 | WE STILL ALLOW THE TEMPORARY DECIBEDISPOSAL OF SOME MATERIAL. |
00:08:47 | WE CAN LOOK AS CLOSE AS YOUNGSTOWN, OHIO TO SEE WE HAVE |
00:08:52 | SERIOUS RISK. WE HAVE SOMEWHAT OF A SCIENCE |
00:08:54 | PROJECT GOING ON HERE. WE WOULD PREFER TO TAKE A |
00:08:58 | TIMEOUT. RESPECT THE UNITED STATES EPA |
00:09:01 | STUDY THAT'S GOING ON TO IDENTIFY THE RISK TO OUR WATER |
00:09:04 | AND HOW WE CAN MANAGE IT. >> IF YOU TAKE A TIMEOUT, DON'T |
00:09:09 | YOU MISS THE OPPORTUNITY THAT THE BOOM COULD BRING. |
00:09:12 | WHEN YOU SAY A OIL AND GAS IS NOT GOING ANYWHERE, BUT |
00:09:15 | CERTAINLY THESE COMPANIES WANT TO MAKE AS MUCH MONEY AS |
00:09:17 | POSSIBLE. >> WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE DO |
00:09:22 | THIS RIGHT. THE OIL AND GAS WILL BE THERE. |
00:09:23 | SOME STATES HAVE A LOT OF PROBLEMS. |
00:09:28 | I HEARD TOM GIVE THE ANALOGY OF PICKUPS IN PENNSYLVANIA. |
00:09:34 | WE DO NOT WANT TO REPEAT THAT IN OHIO. |
00:09:36 | THERE'S A LOT AT STAKE. THERE ARE THOUSANDS OF JOBS AT |
00:09:41 | STAKE. THAT IS TRUE. |
00:09:42 | GUESS WHAT? YOU CANNOT DRINK OR BREATH A |
00:09:49 | DOLLAR BILL. WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THE WATER |
00:09:51 | AND AIR ARE PROTECTED. >> I WANT TO ASK YOU ABOUT THE |
00:09:54 | ATTORNEY GENERAL'S COMMENTS ABOUT THE CHANGES HE WANTS TO |
00:09:57 | SEE IN OHIO'S LAWS. HE SAYS THEY ARE TOO LENIENT. |
00:10:02 | >> I THINK THE ATTORNEY GENERAL NEEDS TO READ THE OHIO LAW. |
00:10:08 | IN SENATE BILL 165, WE HAVE FULL DISCLOSURE THAT EXCEEDS THE |
00:10:14 | STANDARDS SET FORTH BY STATES SUCH AS COLORADO, WHICH HAVE |
00:10:19 | DONE THIS METHOD. A PROJECT BY GROUNDWATER |
00:10:25 | PROTECTION COUNCIL THAT I WATCHED BEING BUILT AND I THINK |
00:10:29 | IT'S A GREAT CONCEPT. SINCE SENATE BILL 165 WAS |
00:10:34 | ENACTED INTO LAW, OHIO PRODUCERS MUST SUBMIT TO THE PUBLIC RECORD |
00:10:40 | WHAT IS CALLED A FRACK TICKET, WHICH TELLS YOU EVERYTHING THAT |
00:10:45 | WENT INTO THE JOB. >> INCLUDING THE CHEMICALS AND |
00:10:48 | EVERYTHING? >> LET ME FINISH. |
00:10:52 | YOU MUST DISCLOSE EVERYTHING YOU PUT INTO THE JOB, HOW MUCH SHE |
00:10:55 | WENT INTO THE JOB, WHAT QUANTITY, WHAT STAGE -- FROM THE |
00:11:00 | VERY BEGINNING TO THE VERY END. WHAT IS MORE, AS OPPOSED TO WHAT |
00:11:06 | OTHER STATES ARE DOING, YOU HAVE TO HAND IN WHAT IS CALLED THE |
00:11:08 | FRACK CHART, WHICH SHOWS YOU THE RATE OVER TIME. |
00:11:15 | IF YOU DID HAVE A PROBLEM, AS JACK ALLUDED TO, WHICH IS OFTEN |
00:11:19 | RELATED TO WELL CONSTRUCTION, IT WOULD BE ON PUBLIC RECORD. |
00:11:22 | THE STATE OF OHIO MUST PUT SHEETS FOR ALL THE CHEMICALS -- |
00:11:28 | THEY MUST PUT THEM ON THEIR WEBSITE. |
00:11:29 | >> THE ACTUAL MIXTURE. >> THEY TELL YOU EVERYTHING YOU |
00:11:34 | NEED TO KNOW TO PROTECT HUMAN HEALTH SAFETY IN THE ENVIRONMENT |
00:11:37 | AS IT RELATES TO THE CHEMICALS. IT WILL HAVE THE CAS #LISTED IF |
00:11:43 | THE CHEMICAL IS NOT PROPRIETARY. PEOPLE SAY, WHAT ABOUT |
00:11:47 | PROPRIETARY? EVEN WITH THE MODEL EMPLOYED NOW |
00:11:49 | IN TEXAS AND COLORADO, YOU CAN SHOW DO CAUSE FOR THAT. |
00:11:57 | ALONG WITH THE FRACK CHARTS AND FULL DISCLOSURE, KNOWING THAT |
00:12:06 | YOU WILL GET THE NUMBER WHICH WILL GIVE YOU 98% OF ALL THE |
00:12:10 | CHEMICALS USED, AND STILL EQUATED TO THE MODEL USED BY |
00:12:15 | TEXAS AND OKLAHOMA. I MAINTAIN THAT OHIO EXCEEDS ALL |
00:12:19 | OTHER STATES ON WHAT WE DO. >> DO YOU AGREE, JACK? |
00:12:23 | >> PROBABLY NOT. >> IT'S HARD TO COMPARE EVERY |
00:12:28 | STATE WITH ONE ANOTHER, BUT I WOULD SAY THIS. |
00:12:30 | THE OHIO ATTORNEY GENERAL KNOWS THE REVISED CODE PRETTY |
00:12:36 | WELL, FORWARD AND BACKWARDS. THE TOP ATTORNEY GENERAL IN OHIO |
00:12:44 | SAYS WE SHOULD FOLLOW LAWS AND I THINK WE SHOULD FOLLOW THAT. |
00:12:49 | TEXAS HAS, I UNDERSTAND, A PRETTY FINE, WHICH THE ATTORNEY |
00:12:53 | GENERAL IS TALKING ABOUT, INSTEAD OF ONETIME FINE. |
00:12:57 | THERE WERE 7600 WELLS LAST YEAR. ABOUT 1000 VIOLATIONS. |
00:13:01 | A LOT OF THOSE WERE IDOL. THERE WERE SOME ACTIVE WELLS |
00:13:06 | THAT HAD A NUMBER OF VIOLATIONS, AS WELL. |
00:13:08 | ONE OF THEM HAD POLLUTANTS THAT FOUND ITS WAY INTO THE CREEK. |
00:13:13 | DISCLOSURE. ABOUT 1 MILLION POUNDS WAS |
00:13:19 | FOUND IN CARROLL COUNTY AND 300 TONS -- THE LARGEST PORTION WAS |
00:13:25 | HYDROCHLORIC ACID. YOU HAVE SOME DANGEROUS |
00:13:27 | COMPONENTS. >> LOOK AT THE JOURNAL. |
00:13:32 | IT'S ON THEIR WEBSITE. WE DO NEED FULL DISCLOSURE. |
00:13:36 | WE REACHED SENATE BILL 165 WITH THE OIL AND GAS ASSOCIATION. |
00:13:41 | IMPORTANT BILL. THERE IS STILL THE OPPORTUNITY |
00:13:48 | TO SHIELD FROM PROPRIETARY INFORMATION. |
00:13:52 | WE WOULD LIKE TO GET THAT FULLY DISCLOSED. |
00:13:54 | THE ATTORNEY GENERAL WANTS TO PUSH FOR THAT. |
00:13:57 | WE ARE RIGHT THERE WITH HIM. >> WHAT ABOUT THE IDEA THAT |
00:14:01 | THERE ARE SOME DANGEROUS CHEMICALS. |
00:14:03 | THERE'S HYDROCHLORIC ACID, WHICH IS AN IRRITANT. |
00:14:06 | ETHANOL COULD BE DEADLY. THESE ARE SOME OF THE CHEMICALS. |
00:14:10 | >> HYDROCHLORIC ACID IS NECESSARY. |
00:14:16 | YOU PUT IT IN AT THE VERY BEGINNING OF THE JOB. |
00:14:18 | IT OPENS IT UP AND ALLOWS ENTRY INTO THE OIL AND GAS RESERVOIR |
00:14:23 | YOU ARE TRYING TO STIMULATE. THAT AND THE OTHER CHEMICALS |
00:14:27 | AMOUNT TO ABOUT 1% TO 1.5% OF THE TOTAL MIXTURE. |
00:14:32 | ITS 99% WATER. >> TO THESE CHEMICALS EVER GET |
00:14:35 | INTO THE GROUNDWATER? >> ACCORDING TO THE STATE'S OIL |
00:14:39 | AND GAS REGULATORY CHIEF, HE SAID THAT IN HIS 25 YEARS OF |
00:14:47 | INVESTIGATING GROUNDWATER, AND HE HAS NOT ONCE CORRELATED |
00:14:50 | HYDRAULIC FRACTURING TO GROUNDWATER CONTAMINATION. |
00:14:58 | LISA JACKSON SAID LAST MAY IN ALL OF THEIR INVESTIGATIONS, |
00:15:01 | THEY HAVE NOT ONCE CORRELATED HYDRAULIC FRACTURING TO GROUND |
00:15:05 | WATER CONTAMINATION. THERE HAVE BEEN 1.2 MILLION |
00:15:10 | WELLS HYDRAULICALLY FRACTURED IN THE UNITED STATES. |
00:15:11 | SINCE 1982, OVER 80 IN THE STATE OF OHIO. |
00:15:14 | NOT ONCE HAVE THEY COME UP WITH A CORRELATION TO GROUNDWATER |
00:15:20 | CONTAMINATION TO HYDRAULIC FRACTURING. |
00:15:23 | >> WHAT ABOUT THAT, JACK? DOESN'T THAT CONVINCE YOU? |
00:15:28 | >> THE UNITED STATES EPA IN DECEMBER, I BELIEVE IT WAS, IN |
00:15:33 | WYOMING, IDENTIFIED IN A DRAFT REPORT -- IDENTIFIED THAT THEY |
00:15:40 | BELIEVE THERE WAS CONTAMINATION FROM THE DEEP SHALE FRACTURING |
00:15:47 | FROM THE CHEMICALS. THERE WAS A STUDY NOT ON THE |
00:15:50 | CHEMICAL COMPONENTS, BUT ON THE METHANE BY DUKE UNIVERSITY |
00:15:55 | IDENTIFYING THE ONLY PLACE THE METHANE COULD HAVE COME FROM WAS |
00:15:57 | FROM THE FRACTURING. WE CAN ALSO LOOK AT STANDARD |
00:16:05 | VERTICAL DRILLING IN OHIO WHERE AN OPERATION WITH A WRY AND A |
00:16:09 | COUPLE PEOPLE LOST THEIR WATER. THEY ARE NOW ON CITY WATER. |
00:16:12 | THERE'S A FELLOW WHO HAS HAD HIS WATER CONTAMINATED -- THE |
00:16:19 | CENTERS FOR DISEASE CONTROL HAS IDENTIFIED THAT AS A PUBLIC |
00:16:22 | SAFETY RISK BECAUSE OF METHANE MIGRATION. |
00:16:26 | IT'S NOT CLEAR IF THAT CAME FROM AN ACTIVE WELL OR IN OLD WELL. |
00:16:30 | RIGHT HERE IN OHIO, WE HAVE SEEN CLEAR CONTAMINATION OF |
00:16:34 | PEOPLE'S WATER FROM DRILLING. >> THEY CANNOT ALL BE ISOLATED |
00:16:36 | INCIDENTS. >> JACK SAID "CONTEN CONTAMINANS |
00:16:47 | SUPPOSEDLY FROM FRACTURING." THEY CONCLUDED THAT HYDRAULIC |
00:16:53 | FRACTURING DID NOT CAUSE A PROBLEM -- IT WAS A WELL |
00:16:59 | CONSTRUCTION ISSUE. EVERYONE ADMITS WELL |
00:17:01 | CONSTRUCTION IS AN ISSUE. THAT'S WHY WE UPGRADED THE |
00:17:04 | STANDARDS AND SENATE BILL 165 AND THE PROMULGATING RULES. |
00:17:09 | THOSE ARE ABOUT TO GO UP NOW. ALL THE PERMITS FOR HORIZONTAL |
00:17:13 | DRILLING ARE HAVING THOSE RULES NOW ATTACHED TO A SPECIAL PERMIT |
00:17:16 | CONDITIONS. AS FAR AS WYOMING, EVEN THE EPA |
00:17:22 | IS ADMITTING NOW THAT THEY BLEW THE STUDY AND THEY THEMSELVES |
00:17:24 | MIGHT HAVE CAUSED THE CONTAMINATION. |
00:17:26 | THEY, THEMSELVES, WITH THEIR TECHNIQUES. |
00:17:30 | IT WAS A VERY SHALLOW OFF A FIRE THAT WAS CLOSE TO ANOTHER ONE |
00:17:34 | WHERE YOU HAD NATURAL OCCURRING NATURAL GAS. |
00:17:37 | IT HAS BEEN BLOWN WIDE OPEN. AS FAR AS THE ISSUE OF GROUND |
00:17:44 | WATER CONTAMINATION, YOU WOULD HAVE HAD TO HAVE WATER FLOW |
00:17:47 | UPHILL. IT WOULD HAVE TO FLOW UPHILL TO |
00:17:52 | GET TO HIS WATER WELL. HE ALLEGED HIS FIRST COMPLAINT |
00:17:56 | THAT THE DRILLING CAUSED CONTAMINATION IN HIS WATER WELL |
00:18:00 | BEFORE THE DRILL BIT STRUCK THE SURFACE OF THE EARTH. |
00:18:03 | HE SAID IT CAUSED PROBLEMS AND IT WAS A HALF A MILE AWAY. |
00:18:05 | IT'S BOGUS. >> YOU MENTIONED THERE WERE |
00:18:09 | RULES IN SENATE BILL 165 THAT ODNR IS STILL PUTTING TOGETHER. |
00:18:14 | >> 165 WOULD NOT HAVE RULES. IT SAID YOU WOULD DO A RULE |
00:18:20 | MAKING. THEY HAVE POSTED THAT ON THE |
00:18:23 | WEBSITE. EVEN WITH THE RULES NOT |
00:18:25 | OFFICIALLY PROMULGATED, THERE IS AUTHORITY EXISTING IN OHIO LAW |
00:18:29 | THAT YOU CAN TAKE THOSE STANDARDS AND APPLY THOSE A |
00:18:33 | SPECIAL PERMIT CONDITIONS, . |
00:18:36 | >> IS THAT HAPPENING? >> IT IS HAPPENING. |
00:18:42 | >> EVEN THOUGH THE RULES ARE NOT IN PLACE. |
00:18:44 | YOU HAVE 127 DRILLING PERMITS THAT HAVE BEEN ISSUED SO FAR. |
00:18:48 | THE RULES TO REGULATE THEM ARE NOT FULLY IN PLACE. |
00:18:51 | >> WE HAVE A PROCESS IN THE STATE OF OHIO OF HOUSE RULES GET |
00:18:55 | PROMULGATED. IT'S THE REQUIREMENT OF OHIO |
00:18:58 | LAW. THEY ARE GOING THROUGH THE |
00:18:59 | PROCESS. EVEN WITHOUT THE PROCESS BEING |
00:19:03 | COMPLETE, THEY ARE TAKING THE RULES AND APPLYING SPECIAL |
00:19:05 | PERMIT CONDITIONS. >> THAT IS TRUE. |
00:19:07 | THE DEPARTMENT IS PERMITTING DRILLING IN THE DEEP SHALE EVEN |
00:19:13 | THOUGH RULES ARE NOT IN PLACE. THE DEPARTMENT HAS THE |
00:19:16 | AUTHORITY. THE DEPARTMENT HAS TOLD US A |
00:19:17 | COUPLE TIMES HOW PLEASANTLY SURPRISED THEY ARE OF SOME OF |
00:19:20 | THE MAJOR OPERATORS DRILLING AT A MUCH HIGHER STANDARD. |
00:19:24 | WE THINK OHIO'S REGULATIONS NEED TO MOVE UP TO THE INDUSTRY |
00:19:27 | STANDARD, AT LEAST, AND NOT SOMEWHERE DOWN BELOW THAT. |
00:19:31 | THE -- STRONGER REPORT, TALKS THE YES, IT WAS TRUE. |
00:19:35 | IT WAS VERY LAUDATORY OF OHIO'S PROGRAM. |
00:19:39 | IT DID HAVE A COUPLE RECOMMENDATIONS. |
00:19:42 | THE FIRST THING, MAKE SURE THESE RULES GET IN PLACE. |
00:19:47 | YOU ARE LOOKING AT AN ONSLAUGHT HERE. |
00:19:49 | ALSO, THE DISCLOSURE. IT SAID THE BETTER TAKE A CLOSER |
00:19:54 | LOOK AND MAKE SURE IT'S GETTING THE FULL DISCLOSURE. |
00:19:56 | >> WHAT THEY SAID ABOUT DISCLOSURE -- EVEN IF IT IS |
00:20:00 | PROPRIETARY, SOMEBODY HAS TO HAVE INFORMATION, IN CASE OF A |
00:20:04 | MEDICAL EMERGENCY. >> THE RECOMMENDATIONS, $10,000 |
00:20:07 | PER DAY. THESE ARE NOT THINGS YOU WANT TO |
00:20:09 | SEE. >> WHAT WE DID IN SENATE BILL 1 |
00:20:12 | 65 WAS DRAMATICALLY UPGRADE ENFORCEMENT CAPABILITIES FOR THE |
00:20:16 | REGULATORY INDUSTRY, SO THEY HAVE NEW TOOLS TO AGGRESSIVELY |
00:20:22 | PURSUE PEOPLE. THEY HAVE A DEVICE CALLED |
00:20:24 | MATERIAL SUBSTANTIAL VIOLATION, WHERE THEY CAN PUT SOMEBODY |
00:20:26 | IMMEDIATELY OUT OF BUSINESS. THEY HAVE ALWAYS TAKEN THE VIEW, |
00:20:32 | AND JACK HAS TALKED ABOUT A NUMBER OF VIOLATIONS. |
00:20:35 | A NUMBER OF THESE VIOLATIONS ARE -- YOUR SINE IS FADED, SO WE |
00:20:40 | CANNOT READ YOUR PERMIT NUMBER. NOW WE WANT TO PUT IN PLACE, |
00:20:46 | $10,000 PER DAY. >> AS OPPOSED TO $20,000 FOR |
00:20:49 | INSTANCE. >> SO WE ARE GOING TO START |
00:20:53 | HAMMERING ON THE HEAD. THIS HAS ALWAYS TAKEN THE |
00:20:55 | ATTITUDE -- OPERATORS OPERATE MANY WELLS. |
00:21:00 | SOME OF THEM GIVE ORDER. THEY HAVE TAKEN THE ATTITUDE -- |
00:21:04 | IF YOU HAVE A PROBLEM IN THE FILLED, GO TO THE PRODUCER. |
00:21:07 | YOU HAVE THESE PROBLEMS. GIVE US A SCHEDULE OF WHEN |
00:21:09 | YOU'RE GOING TO FIX THESE PROBLEMS. |
00:21:11 | THEY HAVE WORKED WITH PEOPLE. NOW THEY HAVE ENFORCEMENT |
00:21:16 | CAPABILITIES WHERE YOU CAN TAKE SOMEBODY AND JERKED THEM RIGHT |
00:21:18 | OUT OF BUSINESS UNTIL THEY FIX THE PROBLEMS. |
00:21:20 | >> IF THE LAWS WERE CHANGED, DO YOU THINK THEY WOULD DRIVE THE |
00:21:25 | INDUSTRY AWAY? >> IT WOULD BE HARD FOR |
00:21:28 | CONVENTIONAL PRODUCERS TO PAY $10,000 PER DAY BECAUSE THE SIGN |
00:21:31 | FADED. >> THE ATTORNEY GENERAL USES |
00:21:36 | DISCRETION. WE NEED MORE INSPECTORS. |
00:21:39 | >> I AGREE WITH THAT. >> WE NEED A LOT MORE |
00:21:45 | INSPECTORS. >> 131 VIOLATIONS OF WELL |
00:21:50 | OPERATION -- POLLUTION. THESE ARE NOT FADED SIGNS. |
00:21:56 | THESE ARE SERIOUS VIOLATIONS. >> LAST YEAR, THE OHIO |
00:22:00 | HISTORICAL SOCIETY HOSTED PERHAPS ITS MOST UNUSUAL EXHIBIT |
00:22:03 | EVER CALLED "CONTROVERSY. IT FEATURED OLD SPARKY, THE |
00:22:15 | ELECTRIC CHAIR THE STATE USED TO ELECTROCUTE INMATES UNTIL |
00:22:20 | 1963. THE POINT WAS NOT TO TAKE A |
00:22:21 | STAND, BUT TO PRESENT A PART OF HISTORY THAT'S NOT POSITIVE BUT |
00:22:25 | STILL IMPORTANT TO EXAMINE. THE CONTROVERSY CONTINUES IN A |
00:22:28 | NEW EXHIBIT THAT GOES A LITTLE DEEPER AND BEYOND THE INITIAL |
00:22:31 | SHOCK OF VALUE AND INTO THE TOUGH ISSUES OF RACISM, ANTI- |
00:22:36 | SEMITISM, STEREOTYPES, AND DISCRIMINATION. |
00:22:39 | ANGELA O'NEAL, THE DIRECTOR OF COLLECTION SERVICES AT THE OHIO |
00:22:47 | HISTORY CENTER, SHOWS OFF ONE ITEM IN THE EXHIBIT - A HANDMADE |
00:22:49 | SET OF BOWLING PINS, PAINTED WITH THE STEREOTYPICAL IMAGES |
00:22:51 | OF ETHNIC FIGURES. >> VERY STRONG CARICATURES, |
00:22:54 | EXACTLY WHAT WE WOULD CALL RACIST TODAY |
00:22:55 | AND THE REASON WE ARE PUTTING THESE ON DISPLAY IS REALLY TO |
00:23:01 | GET PEOPLE TO THINK ABOUT SOME OF THESE STEREOTYPES THAT WE |
00:23:07 | REALLY DO NOT TALK ABOUT TODAY, BUT I THINK THERE ARE STILL SOME |
00:23:12 | CONVERSATIONS WERE HAVING ABOUT THESE KINDS OF ISSUES THAT MAY |
00:23:17 | NOT BE TALKED ABOUT, BUT IN SOME WAYS, STILL EXIST IN OUR |
00:23:21 | CULTURE, AND CERTAINLY, AS YOU CAN SEE BY HAVING A STRONG |
00:23:25 | HISTORY IN OUR CULTURE. |
00:23:26 | >> ALSO IN THE EXHIBIT -- AN OLD CLEVELAND INDIANS JACKET. |
00:23:29 | >> WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO WITH THIS EXHIBIT IS CONNECT THE |
00:23:33 | HISTORY OF THESE THINGS TO TODAY. |
00:23:37 | THE JACKET DOES JUST THAT. IT'S A 1947 INDIANS JACKET. |
00:23:41 | HAS THE CHARACTERISTIC CHIEF ON IT, WHICH COME IN 1947 WAS |
00:23:46 | SOMEWHAT DIFFERENT THAN IT IS TODAY. |
00:23:48 | IT IS VERY CHARACTERIZED, A LOT MORE SO THAN IT IS TODAY. |
00:23:52 | CERTAINLY A VERY RELEVANT TOPIC AS WE CONTINUE TO TALK ABOUT |
00:23:55 | WHAT IT MEANS FOR MASCOTS FOR SPORTS TEAMS. |
00:24:01 | >> AMONG THE OTHER ITEMS -- A NAZI FLAG CAPTURED DURING WORLD |
00:24:03 | WAR II AND WAS BROUGHT BACK BY A SOLDIER FROM OHIO, A POEM BY |
00:24:05 | THE WELL KNOWN POET PAUL LAURENCE DUNBAR OF DAYTON, |
00:24:08 | WRITTEN IN SOUTHERN BLACK DIALECT, AND SOME BESTSELLING |
00:24:12 | PRINTS FROM CURRIER AND IVES THAT FEATURED CARICATURES OF |
00:24:15 | BLACKS. AS WITH THE FIRST CONTROVERSY |
00:24:18 | EXHIBIT, THERE WILL BE DISCUSSION GROUPS AND |
00:24:21 | PROGRAMMING AROUND THE EXHIBIT, AND IT WILL BE CLOSED OFF FROM |
00:24:26 | THE REST OF THE MUSEUM. IT'S REQUESTED THAT KIDS UNDER |
00:24:30 | 18 BE ACCOMPANIED BY AN ADULT AS THEY GO THROUGH THE EXHIBIT, |
00:24:33 | WHICH WILL HAVE A DISCUSSION SPACE AT THE END, AS THE FIRST |
00:24:35 | CONTROVERSY EXHIBIT DID. O'NEAL SAYS THAT SPACE IS |
00:24:36 | NECESSARY TO GIVE VISITORS A CHANCE TO FURTHER EXPLORE WHAT |
00:24:38 | THEY'VE SEEN AND EXPERIENCED, MOST FOR THE FIRST TIME. |
00:24:40 | >> I THINK IT'S, THESE KINDS OF OBJECTS DO EXIST |
00:24:42 | AND A LOT OF TIMES THEY ARE NOT SAVED BECAUSE OF THE NEGATIVE |
00:24:49 | HISTORY BEHIND THEM. IT IS IMPORTANT THAT THEY BE |
00:24:53 | PRESERVED SO THAT WE CAN TALK ABOUT THE PAST AND TALK ABOUT |
00:24:56 | SOME OF THESE ISSUES. |
00:24:58 | >> THE CONTROVERSY II EXHIBIT OPENS FEBRUARY 29 AND IS SET TO |
00:25:00 | RUN THROUGH THE END OF THE YEAR. IT'S TIMED TO RUN WITH AN |
00:25:03 | EXHIBIT ON RACE AT COSI IN COLUMBUS, WHICH GOES THROUGH |
00:25:05 | MAY 6. AND FOR THOSE WHO CAN'T GET |
00:25:10 | ENOUGH OF THE STATE OF THE STATE, THE OHIO HISTORICAL |
00:25:12 | SOCIETY HAS A WEBPAGE DEVOTED TO IT, GOING FORWARD FROM THE |
00:25:14 | VERY FIRST STATE OF THE STATE SPEECH IN 1917 AND GOING BACK TO |
00:25:16 | THE WRITTEN ADDRESSES BEFORE THAT. |
00:25:18 | YOU CAN FIND IT ON THEIR WEBSITE, OHIOHISTORY.ORG. |
00:25:23 | AND THAT'S IT FOR THIS WEEK. FOR MY COLLEAGUES AT OHIO |
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