President Biden and House Speaker Kevin McCarthy met face-to-face yesterday to begin working out a deal to raise the debt-ceiling and avoid a first-ever default of the country's debt.

The meeting comes as Republicans with their new House majority have said they want an agreement to cut government spending in exchange for voting to increase the nation's borrowing limit.

Today on All Sides with Ann Fisher, we are talking about national politics with political journalist Ken Rudin, host of the Political Junkie podcast.

Guests:

Ken Rudin, political journalist and host of the Political Junkie podcast