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00:00:38Former U.S.
00:00:39Senator Sherrod Brown talks
00:00:39about why
00:00:41he's running to be Ohio's
00:00:41future. U.S.
00:00:43senator and current U.S.
00:00:45Senator Bernie
00:00:45Marino takes questions
00:00:45and some he's
00:00:48at the City Club of Cleveland.
00:00:49That's this
00:00:49week in the state of Ohio.
00:01:08Welcome to the state of Ohio.
00:01:10I'm Karen Kasler.
00:01:12It was the announcement
00:01:12that both Democrats
00:01:13and Republicans
00:01:13had been waiting on
00:01:15for very different reasons.
00:01:17Democratic three term
00:01:17former U.S.
00:01:19Senator Sherrod
00:01:19Brown officially
00:01:19launched his campaign
00:01:21to return to the chamber
00:01:21next year,
00:01:23defuzing the hopes of those
00:01:25who wanted him
00:01:25to run for governor.
00:01:27If he is the nominee, he'll
00:01:27face likely Republican nominee
00:01:30John Houston,
00:01:31appointed to the Senate
00:01:32in January
00:01:32to fill out the rest of now
00:01:34Vice President JD Vance's
00:01:34Senate term,
00:01:36which ends in 2028.
00:01:38My statehouse news
00:01:39Bureau college
00:01:40girl sat down with Brown to
00:01:40talk about why he's running,
00:01:43which he announced 286 days
00:01:43after he lost
00:01:46to Republican newcomer
00:01:46Bernie Marino by just under 4%
00:01:50when President Trump won Ohio
00:01:50by more than 11 points.
00:01:54me. Well, I spent my career
00:01:54taking on interest groups,
00:01:57essentially a system
00:01:57that's rigged against workers.
00:01:59You know,
00:01:59I fought against that.
00:02:01And, you know, whether that's
00:02:01when corporate corporations
00:02:04are making more money
00:02:04than ever.
00:02:06Corporate executives are doing
00:02:06big stock
00:02:09buybacks, giving themselves
00:02:09bonuses.
00:02:11Workers are more productive,
00:02:11but workers are
00:02:13they're seeing more money
00:02:13go out than coming in.
00:02:15And I've always
00:02:15I spent my career,
00:02:18taking those interest groups
00:02:18on, over the last eight
00:02:21months, it's gotten worse.
00:02:22Drug prices have gone up,
00:02:23grocery prices have gone up,
00:02:23big tax cuts for the wealthy.
00:02:27We've seen a three, $3
00:02:30trillion addition
00:02:30to the federal deficit.
00:02:34We've
00:02:34seen and far too many cases,
00:02:38workers are just
00:02:38getting left further behind.
00:02:40And I've seen that over
00:02:40the last eight, eight months.
00:02:43And I realize that Ohio
00:02:43doesn't have anyone.
00:02:47Ohio workers
00:02:47don't have any money
00:02:48fighting for them in the U.S.
00:02:48Senate.
00:02:50And I want to go back
00:02:51and continue, going
00:02:51after those interest groups,
00:02:54making sure I don't get them.
00:02:56So I workers have a better,
00:02:57you know, a better,
00:02:57standard of living.
00:03:00You know, workers
00:03:00get a fair shake.
00:03:02Specifically,
00:03:02why did you decide
00:03:03to go to the U.S. Senate
00:03:03versus running for governor?
00:03:06Because I look around
00:03:06and see that Ohio workers
00:03:09don't really have anybody
00:03:09advocating for them.
00:03:11They see drug prices
00:03:11go higher.
00:03:13They see, we all see
00:03:13corporate profits are up.
00:03:17Workers aren't sharing
00:03:17in the wealth they create.
00:03:20I believe I couldn't
00:03:20stand on the sidelines,
00:03:22and I believe I could do
00:03:24the best for Ohio workers
00:03:24by going back to the Senate
00:03:26and being that strong voice
00:03:26for workers.
00:03:28When I say workers, I,
00:03:28I mean union members nonunion.
00:03:31I mean,
00:03:32you know, a McDonald's worker,
00:03:32a home care worker,
00:03:35a steel worker,
00:03:35somebody who works in the back
00:03:37office, an insurance company,
00:03:39somebody that
00:03:39works at a grocery store,
00:03:42workers who are
00:03:43simply not getting a fair
00:03:43shake from their government
00:03:46and your workers realize
00:03:46that that, corporations
00:03:50are going to going to try
00:03:50to extract as much money
00:03:53as they can
00:03:53from their paychecks and,
00:03:55at the checkout line,
00:03:55but workers
00:03:58would like to see
00:03:58somebody in government
00:04:00that's not so co-opted
00:04:00by interest groups.
00:04:02We have John Houston
00:04:02running for the seat.
00:04:04He's been
00:04:04for his whole career.
00:04:06He has been a guy
00:04:06that's that's, that's been in
00:04:10state government
00:04:10for a quarter century.
00:04:12Has has, continued to side
00:04:12with utility companies
00:04:16and banks and Wall Street
00:04:16and drug companies.
00:04:19And so it's no surprise
00:04:19when he came to the Senate
00:04:21that he continues to do that
00:04:21with every vote he casts,
00:04:25the rich get
00:04:25richer and workers get hurt.
00:04:29And that's really the contrast
00:04:29in that, this race.
00:04:32So the fundraising numbers
00:04:33came in the day after you
00:04:33announced, $3 million.
00:04:37Did you raise that?
00:04:38Oh, one day
00:04:38I will raise 24 hours.
00:04:40We raise more money
00:04:40than anybody ever has.
00:04:43And in the, it's money
00:04:43from all 88 counties.
00:04:4690% of the contributions
00:04:46are over, on or under $100.
00:04:50The average contribution was,
00:04:50I don't know, $40,
00:04:53something like that.
00:04:54Because people understand,
00:04:56the system is rigged
00:04:56against workers.
00:04:58And we got
00:04:59a lot of people that wrote
00:04:59$25 checks, $15 checks,
00:05:03or went online and
00:05:03contributed at that amount.
00:05:06Because they want somebody
00:05:07that will be strong voice
00:05:07when they know.
00:05:10People know that John Houston
00:05:10it's always going to side
00:05:13with the utility companies.
00:05:15The electric companies
00:05:15are always going to decide us.
00:05:17He's always going to decide
00:05:17in favor of Wall Street.
00:05:19He's always going to side in
00:05:19politics.
00:05:21It's not politics
00:05:21is not really left or right.
00:05:24It's whose side you on.
00:05:26And I've always been
00:05:26on the side of workers
00:05:28in John Hughes.
00:05:29That's always been on the side
00:05:29of corporate
00:05:30interests, his career
00:05:30in state government,
00:05:33and now that he's
00:05:33in the federal government,
00:05:34shows that as my career shows,
00:05:34that I'll side with workers.
00:05:38Do you have any idea
00:05:39how many total donations
00:05:39you got in that 24 hour
00:05:42account of tens of thousands?
00:05:44Oh, wow.
00:05:44I mean, it doesn't
00:05:44that when 90% of the
00:05:45contributions are under $100
00:05:45and you raise 3.6 million,
00:05:50whatever, whatever
00:05:50the number, and
00:05:51and I'm particularly proud
00:05:51that it's
00:05:53from all 88 counties in Ohio,
00:05:54because I don't know
00:05:54if anybody's ever done
00:05:56that had contributions
00:05:56essentially from everyone.
00:05:59Most people
00:05:59get their contributions
00:06:01from Cleveland or Columbus
00:06:02or Cincinnati
00:06:02or Toledo or Dayton.
00:06:04We got contributions
00:06:04from people that saw that.
00:06:08I knew I was going
00:06:08to going to announce,
00:06:11they probably heard it
00:06:11in public,
00:06:12probably heard on public radio
00:06:12or public television.
00:06:15And they,
00:06:15they wanted to be part of it.
00:06:18Money is likely to flood Ohio
00:06:18next year.
00:06:21We know that on the Republican
00:06:23side, we've got Vic Ramaswamy.
00:06:26He's already raised
00:06:26a tremendous amount of money.
00:06:28He's got the potential
00:06:28to raise far more funds.
00:06:31Do you think that,
00:06:31he will sweep
00:06:35Houston in with that money
00:06:35advantage?
00:06:38Oh, I don't think it's at all
00:06:38clear
00:06:39who's going to win
00:06:39the governor's race.
00:06:41I think that, you know,
00:06:44an out-of-state,
00:06:44out-of-state billionaire,
00:06:47trying to come in here
00:06:48and buy an office,
00:06:48but we've seen that before.
00:06:51We've.
00:06:51And it's unfortunate that,
00:06:53I don't I don't know how
00:06:53that race affects this one,
00:06:56but I do know that
00:06:58that my focus
00:06:58is going to be in Ohio.
00:07:00Workers, as as always
00:07:00has been, I will be outspent,
00:07:03I always,
00:07:04pretty much always have been
00:07:04on hundreds of literally.
00:07:08There are more
00:07:08there's more money
00:07:08spent against me
00:07:10two years
00:07:10there last year than I believe
00:07:10any Senate race in history.
00:07:13So they'll
00:07:13they'll try to do that
00:07:15when you
00:07:15when you stand up
00:07:15to the drug companies
00:07:17and you stand up
00:07:18to the electric companies
00:07:18and you stand up
00:07:20to Wall Street, of course
00:07:20they want to beat you.
00:07:21And that's that's
00:07:21why every race I've run,
00:07:24millions of dollars
00:07:24have come in to defeat me.
00:07:27I wear that with pride.
00:07:28I mean, I, I think that,
00:07:28I welcome, as I think FDR
00:07:31said, I welcome their enmity,
00:07:31that they think I'm
00:07:34a threat, to their power
00:07:34and their corporate profits.
00:07:38And I want companies to do
00:07:38well in Ohio.
00:07:40So I worked with small
00:07:40business, my whole career.
00:07:44But I don't want it at
00:07:44the expense of Ohio workers.
00:07:48The political landscape right
00:07:49now is different than it was
00:07:49in 2018,
00:07:53and it's even different
00:07:53than it was, in 2024.
00:07:57Right.
00:07:57And how does that affect you?
00:07:59Well, in 2020 and 2025,
00:08:04we have seen a rigged system
00:08:04already.
00:08:07Get worse.
00:08:08Drug prices
00:08:08up, grocery prices up.
00:08:11The the bill that that, John
00:08:15you said voted for,
00:08:15in a few weeks ago,
00:08:20will mean 490,000 Ohioans
00:08:20lose their health insurance.
00:08:25Think about that
00:08:26state of 12 million,
00:08:27almost 500,000 will lose
00:08:27their health insurance.
00:08:30Think of that
00:08:31in a in rural Ohio,
00:08:31where if a hospital closes
00:08:34and there's talk already of up
00:08:34to a dozen hospitals close,
00:08:37if a hospital closes in rural
00:08:37Ohio, it means
00:08:39people have to drive 30, 40,
00:08:4150 miles to deliver a baby to
00:08:41if they have
00:08:44an emergency situation.
00:08:45It also means,
00:08:45as bad as that is.
00:08:47I mean, some of these
00:08:48hospitals,
00:08:48as these hospitals close,
00:08:50more often than not,
00:08:50these hospitals in small towns
00:08:53are the biggest employer
00:08:53in town.
00:08:55So it means a big loss of jobs
00:08:57in a small town
00:08:57that can't afford that.
00:08:59So when when John Husted
00:08:59cast his vote
00:09:01essentially
00:09:01to close rural hospitals
00:09:03to take away insurance
00:09:03for 500,000 people, almost,
00:09:08he does it because
00:09:09does it at the same time
00:09:09is running up the debt
00:09:11an actual debt by $3
00:09:11trillion in does it all
00:09:15to provide a tax
00:09:15cut to, to to billionaires.
00:09:18A huge tax
00:09:18cut to billions? Yes.
00:09:20You ask the question,
00:09:20whose side are you on?
00:09:22I would have voted
00:09:22against that
00:09:23because I want to preserve
00:09:23health insurance.
00:09:26I want to get a fairer
00:09:26tax system.
00:09:29I don't want rural hospitals
00:09:29to close.
00:09:30And he does.
00:09:31And so you make this contrast.
00:09:33Whose side are you on?
00:09:34And he's on the side
00:09:34of the billionaires.
00:09:36He's on the side
00:09:36a big drug company.
00:09:38He's on the side of Wall
00:09:38Street.
00:09:39I'm on the side of workers.
00:09:40I mean, you're
00:09:41you're going to hear that
00:09:41throughout the campaign
00:09:43that, that again,
00:09:43politics is a left or right,
00:09:46a two sided on and
00:09:47and you know, Joe,
00:09:48all the time we've talked
00:09:48and I'm on the side of workers
00:09:50and I always have been
00:09:50and always will be.
00:09:52What did you learn in 2024
00:09:55that will help
00:09:55you, and your bid in 2026?
00:10:01I think I learned
00:10:01that, oh, it was time for.
00:10:04I mean, I already
00:10:04kind of knew this,
00:10:05how important it is
00:10:05to listen to workers,
00:10:07how important it is
00:10:07that Congress respond to this.
00:10:11I think that, I, you know,
00:10:11last year and this year,
00:10:15I go to the grocery store
00:10:16after church, and I saw people
00:10:16at the checkout line,
00:10:20sometimes, not often,
00:10:20but sometimes realized
00:10:23they had to put
00:10:23put things back on the shelf,
00:10:25or at least not
00:10:26take them
00:10:26to the checkout counter
00:10:27because they couldn't
00:10:27afford it.
00:10:29And,
00:10:29we need to pay more attention
00:10:31to that as elected officials
00:10:31and as candidates do.
00:10:34Do you feel any responsibility
00:10:34to help the Democrats
00:10:38who are running
00:10:38at the statewide level?
00:10:40A lot of them were kind of
00:10:40hanging back
00:10:42and kind of
00:10:42waiting to see what you did.
00:10:45And now that they know,
00:10:45you know,
00:10:47we might see more candidates
00:10:47come in,
00:10:50but do you feel responsibility
00:10:52to help
00:10:52sweep them in with coattails
00:10:52or anything like,
00:10:54I, I don't really know
00:10:54how you do that.
00:10:56My focus is on,
00:10:56my focus is on workers.
00:10:59I like I said,
00:10:59I think that, my role as a,
00:11:04as an Ohio Democrat
00:11:04is that, that others
00:11:09running for office
00:11:09will follow, listen to
00:11:12and follow what I'm saying,
00:11:12because I,
00:11:14I win elections because
00:11:14of my focus on workers.
00:11:17I think Ohio Democrats
00:11:17need to do the same.
00:11:21And I think if they do,
00:11:21we will win more elections.
00:11:24The Trump factor,
00:11:24it's an issue in Ohio.
00:11:27Trump,
00:11:27is driving the movement
00:11:29in Ohio right now.
00:11:31How will you navigate that
00:11:33and how will you attract
00:11:33those voters,
00:11:35especially voters in labor
00:11:35who, were once very steadily
00:11:41in the Democrats corner
00:11:41in your corner,
00:11:43but maybe went to Trump
00:11:43in recent years,
00:11:47working families
00:11:47and union members
00:11:48are still
00:11:48very much in my corner.
00:11:51I don't think last fall,
00:11:53voters, voted for tax cuts
00:11:53for rich people.
00:11:57I don't think voters
00:11:57last fall,
00:11:59voted for higher drug prices.
00:12:02I don't think voters voted
00:12:02for a higher
00:12:04national debt of $3 trillion.
00:12:06And I don't think voters
00:12:07voted for hospital closures
00:12:07in small towns or,
00:12:11I don't think voters
00:12:11voted to lose their insurance
00:12:15as 490,000 Ohioans will,
00:12:15we will make that claim.
00:12:19We will make that clear.
00:12:20I don't think voters
00:12:22think about the president
00:12:22in those discussions.
00:12:24They think about,
00:12:24what's happened in our state.
00:12:27I mean, I got in this race
00:12:28because over the last
00:12:28eight months,
00:12:30I've seen how things
00:12:30have gotten worse
00:12:32for Ohio workers,
00:12:33and I couldn't
00:12:33stay on the sidelines.
00:12:35And Connie
00:12:35and I talked a lot about that.
00:12:37And,
00:12:37when you see what's happening
00:12:39to your country
00:12:39and you love your country
00:12:41and you realize
00:12:41you can do something about it,
00:12:44that's why I want to go back
00:12:44to the Senate,
00:12:47because I, I recognize
00:12:47Ohio's two senators,
00:12:50think more about
00:12:51the drug companies,
00:12:51think more about Wall Street,
00:12:53think more about
00:12:53corporate profits
00:12:55than they do about workers
00:12:56wages
00:12:56and health care and pensions.
00:12:59Is the Trump tide turning?
00:13:01I am radio,
00:13:01that's your analysis.
00:13:03You're the reporter.
00:13:05Okay, a
00:13:06lot of Democrats have,
00:13:06kind of, wanted to know
00:13:10what you're going to be doing
00:13:11as far as how they can
00:13:11dovetail into your campaign.
00:13:15Are you going
00:13:15to be campaigning
00:13:18with the Democrats?
00:13:19How you how
00:13:19are you going to work?
00:13:20I'm going to I'm going
00:13:20to run a strong campaign.
00:13:23I'm an Ohio Democrat.
00:13:24I'm going to run
00:13:24a strong campaign.
00:13:26I'm going to win.
00:13:26I'm going to win by focusing
00:13:26on the lives of workers,
00:13:30focusing on how their lives
00:13:30have gotten worse
00:13:34because of John Husted and
00:13:34other positions he's taken.
00:13:38And, that will be clear
00:13:38to candidates up
00:13:42and down the ballot.
00:13:44And I frankly,
00:13:45I think that Ohio Republicans
00:13:45are going to back
00:13:47pedal away from Houston's
00:13:47votes.
00:13:49Last question.
00:13:50Fox News is out saying
00:13:52that you, talk about workers
00:13:52dignity of work,
00:13:56but then you don't pay
00:13:56your personal taxes
00:13:59and that you take that money
00:13:59from your campaign
00:14:03and you use it on lavish
00:14:03things, extravagant things.
00:14:07Do you want to respond to
00:14:07that?
00:14:08Well,
00:14:08you know, that isn't true.
00:14:09As a reporter
00:14:09that's tell me for years,
00:14:11all our taxes are paid.
00:14:13a poll released this week
00:14:13from Emerson
00:14:14College,
00:14:14which experts have rated
00:14:16as a high credibility
00:14:16polling organization,
00:14:19shows Houston has a six point
00:14:19lead on Brown.
00:14:22Nearly half $1 billion
00:14:22was spent in last November's
00:14:25election, when Brown
00:14:25lost to Bernie Marino.
00:14:28Speaking of Ohio, senior U.S.
00:14:30Senator was at the City Club
00:14:30of Cleveland this week
00:14:32in his first appearance before
00:14:32the 113 year old institution
00:14:36that's hosted presidents,
00:14:36leaders in business, science
00:14:39and the arts community,
00:14:39activists
00:14:41and candidates for debates.
00:14:43It was also Bernie Marino's
00:14:43first town hall style
00:14:46event since he was elected
00:14:46last fall.
00:14:49That did not escape
00:14:49the notice of protesters
00:14:51who lined the street
00:14:51outside the event.
00:14:54The forum began
00:14:54with the request for tough,
00:14:56respectful questions
00:14:56in the audience Q&A section.
00:14:59But it didn't take long
00:14:59for things to get heated,
00:15:01as Marino took questions
00:15:01from NBC news
00:15:04senior
00:15:04national political reporter
00:15:06and Youngstown native
00:15:06Henry Gomez.
00:15:08you've been vocal about.
00:15:09What's going on with Intel
00:15:09and Ohio.
00:15:12You've asked
00:15:12whether the company misused
00:15:12for an investigation into
00:15:15some of the public assistance
00:15:17it's been offered for its,
00:15:17its plans here.
00:15:20Bloomberg reported last week
00:15:20that the Trump administration
00:15:23is considering having
00:15:23the United States take a stake
00:15:26in Intel, partially to help
00:15:26fund Intel's Ohio commitment.
00:15:31Do you support the US bailing
00:15:31out the company in this way?
00:15:33No, no,
00:15:33no, it's not a bailout.
00:15:35What you're told, is it?
00:15:35No. Here's what you got.
00:15:37So what the chips act said
00:15:39with the Chips act said
00:15:40we're just going to write
00:15:40a check
00:15:42for $8 billion into the chips.
00:15:44I said, again, you can agree
00:15:45that's not agreed, but that's
00:15:45what the Chips act set.
00:15:47So Intel applied and Intel
00:15:47got to be exact $8.7 billion.
00:15:52So the US taxpayer said,
00:15:53hey, we're going to give
00:15:53you the money. Here you go.
00:15:56Make semiconductors
00:15:56in America.
00:15:58What's happened?
00:16:00Facility sitting there.
00:16:01It's a big,
00:16:01gigantic construction site.
00:16:04It's not producing anything.
00:16:05So what President Trump has
00:16:05say, which I 100% agree on,
00:16:09is if a company
00:16:09is going to ask for help,
00:16:12if a company is going to ask
00:16:12for money, the taxpayer
00:16:15should get equity.
00:16:16So we have the upside.
00:16:18So Intel has a market cap
00:16:18of roughly $80 billion.
00:16:21So they're going to get $8
00:16:21billion 10%.
00:16:23Then we should get 10%.
00:16:25And then as a company
00:16:25becomes successful
00:16:28we can sell that equity
00:16:30and recoup the money
00:16:30for the taxpayer.
00:16:32To me, that's common sense.
00:16:33Just giving handouts
00:16:34to corporations
00:16:34makes no sense to me.
00:16:37And there has to be
00:16:37accountability
00:16:39on what the promises
00:16:39were made, where, by the way,
00:16:42the state of Ohio
00:16:42has already invested
00:16:43tremendous amounts of money
00:16:43widening
00:16:45roads
00:16:45and building infrastructure,
00:16:47and there's not going to be
00:16:47a fad there.
00:16:48That's a problem.
00:16:49That's a misuse
00:16:49of public dollars
00:16:51and a use of our trust.
00:16:53So it's just two different
00:16:53approaches.
00:16:55One is hand out
00:16:55to corporations.
00:16:57By the way,
00:16:57all that does encourages
00:16:59grift, quite frankly.
00:17:00Corporations that have better
00:17:00access to to DC than others
00:17:05versus
00:17:05a much more sensible solution
00:17:08that has tariffs
00:17:08along the way,
00:17:09which says, well,
00:17:10if you can
00:17:10make your semiconductor
00:17:10chips elsewhere,
00:17:12but we're going to
00:17:12put tariffs in place.
00:17:14And that's the encouragement
00:17:15that the companies
00:17:15need to make them here.
00:17:17And you're seeing that
00:17:17Nvidia and TSMC
00:17:19are investing hundreds
00:17:20of millions of dollars
00:17:20of their own money
00:17:23to build semiconductors
00:17:23in the US with zero,
00:17:26money for the US taxpayer.
00:17:29Like many of you are
00:17:30an initial skeptic
00:17:30of Donald Trump back in 2016,
00:17:33but you have become one of his
00:17:35most loyal supporters
00:17:35in the US Senate.
00:17:37He endorsed
00:17:37your Senate campaign.
00:17:40But I'm curious,
00:17:40what is one issue
00:17:43that you would handle
00:17:44or approach
00:17:45differently
00:17:45than the president has,
00:17:47and how well
00:17:47he's doing in the second term?
00:17:49I think in the first term,
00:17:50there were some hires
00:17:50that were problematic.
00:17:53There are some people
00:17:54that, that I wouldn't have
00:17:54brought on is stage
00:17:56that quite a bit?
00:17:58That's the big one.
00:18:00Is there
00:18:01anything about his temperament
00:18:01or his approach
00:18:03in the second term
00:18:03that you look at and are like,
00:18:07maybe that's not the
00:18:08I think he's doing a great job
00:18:08in the second term.
00:18:09We've got we've got great.
00:18:11We got, we got. Look,
00:18:14let him answer.
00:18:17Look.
00:18:18So I'll give you
00:18:18I'll give you an easy
00:18:22I'll give you an easy
00:18:22contrast.
00:18:23I'll give you an easy
00:18:23contrast.
00:18:25When did the war
00:18:25in Ukraine start?
00:18:29When did the war
00:18:29in Ukraine start?
00:18:32And everybody.
00:18:34All right. So.
00:18:35So that's just I said facts.
00:18:39Facts are annoying things.
00:18:42I mean, that's
00:18:42that's that's could be
00:18:44that could that
00:18:44that's coincidental.
00:18:45It started during.
00:18:46It is it coincidental
00:18:46or how's that coincidental.
00:18:49Because they took Crimea
00:18:49under Obama.
00:18:51They what it has to do with
00:18:53is a projection
00:18:53of American strength.
00:18:55Look, look, look,
00:18:57look what you just saw
00:18:57in the white House.
00:18:59It's just again, good facts.
00:19:00Yeah.
00:19:02Yeah.
00:19:03We're going to have time
00:19:03for your your question.
00:19:04I mean, you've you've
00:19:06endorsed legislation,
00:19:08suggesting that
00:19:08the President Trump
00:19:09should be awarded
00:19:09a Nobel Peace Prize.
00:19:12He should 100%, 100%.
00:19:15Are you are you pleased with
00:19:15are you pleased with this?
00:19:18And I would like to
00:19:19I have time
00:19:19for like two more questions.
00:19:20So I would like to get them in
00:19:20before
00:19:22we turn it over to you.
00:19:23What's your major
00:19:23malfunction?
00:19:26I would Nobel peace.
00:19:27I would like to know,
00:19:30your thoughts
00:19:30on his interactions
00:19:32with Vladimir Putin
00:19:32over the last week.
00:19:33I mean, was
00:19:33he is he giving away too much?
00:19:36Is he being too deferential to
00:19:39to the Russian president
00:19:39in their meetings?
00:19:40Look,
00:19:40the war is not America's war.
00:19:43It's not America's war.
00:19:44We're not there
00:19:44and has. It's not.
00:19:47If the war continues
00:19:47to, the war ends.
00:19:48It doesn't change
00:19:48the lives of Americans.
00:19:50Just to be clear,
00:19:51we are
00:19:52we have a president
00:19:52that's trying to end
00:19:54a conflict
00:19:54that's primarily in Europe.
00:19:56The war has to be ended
00:19:56by the people in that war.
00:19:59That's Ukraine and Russia.
00:20:01You have to be able
00:20:01to get both sides
00:20:02together
00:20:02to the table to end the war.
00:20:04Wars are very difficult
00:20:04to end.
00:20:06They're very easy to start.
00:20:08And what he's doing
00:20:08is exactly that, by
00:20:10the way,
00:20:10ended a conflict in Cambodia.
00:20:12By the way,
00:20:12I'm not the only one saying
00:20:14he should get the Nobel Peace
00:20:15Prize to 70,000 monks,
00:20:15in Asia yesterday, by the way.
00:20:19So, look, this is this
00:20:19is exactly what he's doing.
00:20:22Ended a conflict
00:20:22between India and Pakistan.
00:20:25These are two nuclear powers
00:20:25and a war in Africa.
00:20:27And in a war,
00:20:27in eastern Europe,
00:20:30we have a secure border,
00:20:30which is a big deal.
00:20:33And we're going to end the war
00:20:33in Ukraine.
00:20:35This is what he is.
00:20:36This is what American strength
00:20:36means.
00:20:39And again, you can here's
00:20:40part of the problem
00:20:40that I find in DC,
00:20:42just to be super blunt.
00:20:44There's people who have such
00:20:44deep, irrational hatred
00:20:48towards President Trump
00:20:49that literally words
00:20:49can't penetrate their brains
00:20:52because the derangement
00:20:52of hatred is so high.
00:20:56But but that's just
00:20:56what I'm laying out too,
00:20:58is just facts.
00:20:59These wars and conflicts did
00:20:59end in the last seven months.
00:21:02You may not like that it did,
00:21:04but that's actually the truth
00:21:04of what happened.
00:21:06And yes, he should
00:21:06and probably will end up
00:21:08getting the Nobel Peace Prize.
00:21:11I have one more.
00:21:12I have one more question for
00:21:12you before we turn it over,
00:21:15to the audience,
00:21:16that's a topical one,
00:21:17given some of the politics
00:21:17of this week.
00:21:20Former Senator Sherrod Brown,
00:21:20who you unseated last year,
00:21:22announced that he is running
00:21:24in the special Senate election
00:21:24next year against Republican
00:21:27Senator John, who said,
00:21:30you did
00:21:32you did beat Sherrod Brown
00:21:32last year.
00:21:34You mentioned how much money
00:21:34has been spent in that race.
00:21:39What's what is his biggest
00:21:39strength, though?
00:21:41What does John, who said
00:21:41most need to worry about
00:21:45in an election
00:21:45with Sherrod Brown?
00:21:47What will make him,
00:21:47a tough opponent?
00:21:49You know, I don't I'm
00:21:49not a political pundit.
00:21:51I don't know.
00:21:52I'm not I'm not
00:21:54somebody who's
00:21:54going to comment on politics.
00:21:55That's your job.
00:21:56My my point of view
00:21:56is that it's interesting to me
00:22:00that the Democrat Party
00:22:00has nobody else
00:22:05other than a 50 year
00:22:05politician
00:22:09who's been in DC forever,
00:22:11who's never had a job
00:22:11in the private
00:22:13sector, is the only solution.
00:22:14I think it's sad, honestly,
00:22:14because as I travel the state,
00:22:18there's lots and lots
00:22:18of Democrats that are younger,
00:22:21more diverse, that could run,
00:22:21but they don't run.
00:22:24That has sure.
00:22:30So, so the the record of
00:22:32fighting for working
00:22:32people is different
00:22:34than a record
00:22:34of actually accomplishing
00:22:37something for working people.
00:22:38Those are two different
00:22:38things.
00:22:39So while I and look
00:22:39the guy, it's just again
00:22:43I look we need a strong
00:22:43Democrat party in this country
00:22:47and we don't have one
00:22:47right now
00:22:49because again,
00:22:50the only solution, the party
00:22:50that claims to be
00:22:53the party of youth
00:22:53and diversity
00:22:55is looking for a guy
00:22:56who would be almost 80 years
00:22:56old at the end of his term
00:23:00as the only answer
00:23:00to their equation.
00:23:02That's I look at that
00:23:02and say, it's a shame,
00:23:04because what it does, it
00:23:05suppresses the voices
00:23:05in the Democrat Party
00:23:09that want
00:23:09a new generational change.
00:23:11And that's just a fact.
00:23:12So look, if that's it and
00:23:14and by the way,
00:23:14it's all precast for you.
00:23:17If you're a Democrat,
00:23:17you have no choice.
00:23:18You will have him
00:23:18as your nominee regardless of
00:23:22maybe if you want
00:23:22something different
00:23:24because that's
00:23:24what you've been given.
00:23:26So it's a shame that
00:23:26that's the case.
00:23:28But John Hughes
00:23:28is going to win
00:23:29that election is no question
00:23:29in my mind about that.
00:23:33When you said you
00:23:34don't do punditry,
00:23:34I think he's going to win.
00:23:37That's not punditry
00:23:38Marino also said
00:23:38there have been
00:23:39a lot of calls from businesses
00:23:39interested
00:23:41in the pixel facility
00:23:41in Chillicothe,
00:23:43which shut down this month.
00:23:45Marino said
00:23:45while he's confident
00:23:47it's slow work
00:23:47because, in his words,
00:23:49what we don't want to do
00:23:49is replace one disaster
00:23:52with another.
00:23:53Marino got
00:23:53a couple friendly questions,
00:23:55but there were times
00:23:55in the discussion
00:23:57that it was stopped
00:23:57because of interruptions,
00:23:57and clearly
00:23:59there was frustration
00:23:59all around,
00:24:01including from City Club board
00:24:01president Marc Ross.
00:24:04In my opening,
00:24:04I use the phrase
00:24:06respectful detractors,
00:24:08trying to get ahead
00:24:09of some of the heated dialog,
00:24:10which obviously didn't
00:24:10quite work.
00:24:13I would just, off
00:24:13script, remind everyone that
00:24:17if we're going to continue
00:24:17to get speakers,
00:24:21like Bernie, like Senator
00:24:21Marino here tonight,
00:24:25we have to be a little bit
00:24:25more thoughtful in the way
00:24:29we're acting in the audience.
00:24:32Yes. You don't need to hear.
00:24:35Well, I think most of this
00:24:35audience would disagree,
00:24:37but I'm not going to get into
00:24:37a debate on that.
00:24:40Marino's website features
00:24:40a link to the forum
00:24:42suggesting he had no major
00:24:42concerns the outcome,
00:24:45but several Republicans
00:24:45were angry.
00:24:47And Ohio
00:24:47Republican Party Chair Alex
00:24:49Triana said on Thursday night
00:24:49that, quote,
00:24:52The Ohio GOP will urge
00:24:52candidates to avoid future
00:24:55events
00:24:55at the City Club of Cleveland.
00:24:57It is not
00:24:57what it purports to be.
00:24:59And until they foster
00:24:59civil adult conversation,
00:25:02Republicans should
00:25:03decline participation
00:25:03to avoid this spectacle.
00:25:07And that is it for this week
00:25:07for my colleagues
00:25:08at the Statehouse News
00:25:08Bureau of Ohio Public Media.
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