| 00:00:38 | >> A KILLER IS PUT TO DEATH, AS
THE NEXT IN LINE CONTINUES TO |
| 00:00:40 | FIGHT HIS SCHEDULED EXECUTION.
THE BATTLE OVER PROVISIONAL |
| 00:00:44 | BALLOTS GOES ON, EVEN THOUGH THE
ELECTION IS OVER. |
| 00:00:46 | AND TWO AMAZINGLY ACCURATE
FORECASTERS TALK ABOUT HOW |
| 00:00:50 | THEIR PREDICTIONS FOR THE 2012
ELECTION CAME TRUE, AND WHAT |
| 00:00:53 | THEY SEE AHEAD FOR STATE
LAWMAKERS AND OHIO POLITICS |
| 00:00:56 | GOING INTO YEAR'S END.
ALL THIS WEEK IN "THE STATE OF |
| 00:00:59 | OHIO".
FOR THE 49TH TIME SINCE 1999, |
| 00:01:05 | OHIO HAS PUT A CONDEMNED KILLER
TO DEATH. |
| 00:01:07 | AND THE EXECUTION OF 38 YEAR
OLD BRETT HARTMAN WAS CARRIED |
| 00:01:11 | OUT WITH NO APPARENT
COMPLICATIONS. |
| 00:01:13 | HARTMAN WAS SENTENCED TO DIE
FOR STABBING WINDA SNIPES OF |
| 00:01:16 | AKRON 138 TIMES AND THEN CUTTING
OFF HER HANDS IN 1997. |
| 00:01:20 | IT WAS A CRIME HE ALWAYS
MAINTAINED HE WAS INNOCENT OF |
| 00:01:24 | DOING.
THE ASSOCIATED PRESS'S ANDREW |
| 00:01:27 | WELSH-HUGGINS, A VETERAN MEDIA
WITNESS OF MANY EXECUTIONS AND |
| 00:01:30 | THE AUTHOR OF A BOOK ABOUT THE
DEATH PENALTY IN OHIO, SAW |
| 00:01:33 | HARTMAN RECEIVE THE LETHAL
INJECTION. |
| 00:01:35 | >> HE REALLY DID NOT GIVE A
FINAL STATEMENT. |
| 00:01:38 | WHEN THE WARDEN ASKED HIM IF HE
HAD ANY LAST WORDS, HE SIMPLY |
| 00:01:41 | SAID, "I'M GOOD. LET'S ROLL."
HE THEN DID SOMETHING WHICH WAS |
| 00:01:46 | A LITTLE UNUSUAL.
HE TURNED TO THE WARDEN AND |
| 00:01:50 | SAID TO THE WARDEN, "THIS IS
NOT GOING TO DEFEAT ME." |
| 00:01:53 | >> THE NEXT INMATE SCHEDULED TO
DIE IN JANUARY, RONALD POST, IS |
| 00:01:59 | BATTLING TO HAVE HIS EXECUTION
BECAUSE HE WEIGHS MORE THAN 400 |
| 00:02:04 | POUNDS AND FEARS HE WOULD
SUFFER SEVERE PAIN BECAUSE HIS |
| 00:02:06 | VEINS CAN'T BE ACCESSED.
THE LAME DUCK SESSION OF THE |
| 00:02:10 | LEGISLATURE IS WELL UNDERWAY.
A LONG AWAITED BILL THAT WOULD |
| 00:02:13 | CRACK DOWN ON HIGH-VOLUME DOG
BREEDING OPERATIONS, DUBBED |
| 00:02:17 | PUPPY MILLS, WAS APPROVED IN
THE HOUSE THIS WEEK/FAILED IN |
| 00:02:19 | THE HOUSE THIS WEEK, AFTER A
LEGISLATIVE COMMITTEE VOTED IT |
| 00:02:22 | OUT 18-1.
THE BILL WOULD BOLSTER |
| 00:02:25 | REGULATIONS ON THE CARE AND
TREATMENT OF ANIMALS HOUSED IN |
| 00:02:27 | LARGE-SCALE ESTABLISHMENTS AND
WOULD DISTINGUISH THE |
| 00:02:31 | FACILITIES FROM TRADITIONAL DOG
KENNELS. |
| 00:02:33 | THOSE CONSIDERED "DOG
RETAILERS" WOULD HAVE TO BE |
| 00:02:35 | LICENSED.
AND THIS WEEK ALSO BROUGHT |
| 00:02:38 | HEARINGS ON SOME ABORTION-
RELATED BILLS, AS RUMORS SWIRL |
| 00:02:41 | THAT THERE'S A DEAL TO BRING
THE CONTROVERSIAL "HEARTBEAT |
| 00:02:43 | BILL" TO THE SENATE FLOOR BEFORE
THE END OF THE YEAR. |
| 00:02:46 | LAWMAKERS HEARD TESTIMONY ON
BILLS TO BAN ABORTION FOR SEX |
| 00:02:55 | SELECTION AND TO PUT PLANNED
PARENTHOOD BACK OF THE LINE |
| 00:03:00 | AMONG THOSE THAT RECEIVE PUBLIC
FUNDS USED FOR FAMILY PLANNING |
| 00:03:04 | SERVICES, BEHIND ALL OTHER
HEALTH CARE PROVIDERS SUCH AS |
| 00:03:06 | COMMUNITY HEALTH GROUPS.
AND A QUICK ELECTION WRAP UP. |
| 00:03:09 | SECRETARY OF STATE JON HUSTED'S
OFFICE SAYS HE WILL APPEAL THE |
| 00:03:13 | RULING OF A FEDERAL JUDGE
ORDERING HIM TO CHANGE HIS |
| 00:03:16 | POLICY ON THE COUNTING OF
PROVISIONAL BALLOTS IN LAST |
| 00:03:19 | WEEK'S ELECTION.
JUDGE ALGERNON MARBLEY SAYS |
| 00:03:22 | HUSTED WAS WRONG WHEN HE ISSUED
A DIRECTIVE LAST FRIDAY, THE |
| 00:03:26 | START OF THE ONLY WEEKEND OF
EARLY VOTING, SAYING |
| 00:03:28 | PROVISIONAL BALLOTS SHOULD BE
TOSSED OUT IF VOTERS DIDN'T FILL |
| 00:03:32 | OUT PARTS CORRECTLY.
HUSTED HAD ARGUED THE MOVE WAS |
| 00:03:35 | NEEDED TO COMBAT POSSIBLE VOTER
FRAUD. |
| 00:03:36 | BUT THE JUDGE CALLS HUSTED'S
DIRECTIVE AN EFFORT "TO FLAUNT |
| 00:03:40 | STATE LAW IN ARBITRARILY
REASSIGNING A POLL WORKERS' |
| 00:03:45 | STATUTORY DUTY TO A VOTER, WITH
THE RESULT BEING |
| 00:03:49 | DISENFRANCHISEMENT."
UNOFFICIAL RESULTS SHOW THE |
| 00:03:52 | ELECTIONS FOR 3 SEATS IN THE
OHIO HOUSE ARE STILL TOO CLOSE |
| 00:03:55 | TO CALL - THE RACES IN THE 5TH,
7TH AND THE 98TH. |
| 00:03:58 | SO WHEN PROVISIONAL BALLOTS ARE
COUNTED, THOSE VOTES COULD |
| 00:04:03 | DECIDE WHO WINS THOSE SEATS.
CANDIDATES IS LESS THAN A |
| 00:04:07 | QUARTER OF A PERCENT, THERE
WILL BE AUTOMATIC RECOUNTS IN |
| 00:04:10 | THOSE RACES.
AND IF MAJORITY REPUBLICANS WIN |
| 00:04:14 | THEM, IT COULD GIVE THE GOP A
SUPERMAJORITY SO THAT |
| 00:04:16 | REPUBLICANS ALONE COULD PLACE
CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENTS ON |
| 00:04:19 | THE BALLOT.
COOKIE MONSTER, CLINT EASTWOOD, |
| 00:04:24 | NEW YORK JETS QUARTERBACK TIM
TEBOW, COMEDIAN JON STEWART AND |
| 00:04:27 | GOD ALL RECEIVED WRITE-IN VOTES
FOR PRESIDENT FROM OHIO VOTERS. |
| 00:04:29 | A REVIEW BY THE CANTON
REPOSITORY OF BALLOTS CAST |
| 00:04:35 | TUESDAY FOUND SUBMISSIONS
SILLY, STUPID AND SUBLIME AMONG |
| 00:04:37 | 242 WRITE-INS CAST IN STARK
COUNTY, INCLUDING VOTES FOR |
| 00:04:43 | THOSE CANDIDATES ALONG WITH
JESUS, FORMER DEMOCRATIC |
| 00:04:46 | CANDIDATE FOR PRESIDENT JOHN
KERRY, CAR RACING ICON RICHARD |
| 00:04:49 | PETTY, TIGGER, AND CARTMAN, THE
KID WITH THE FOULEST MOUTH ON |
| 00:04:52 | THE TV SHOW SOUTH PARK.
NOW THAT THE ELECTION IS OVER, |
| 00:04:58 | MANY PEOPLE WHO MADE
PREDICTIONS ARE BEING HELD TO |
| 00:04:59 | THEM NOW.
MANY PEOPLE DIDN'T GO OUT TOO |
| 00:05:02 | FAR ON TOO MANY LIMBS, BUT
WHAT'S AMAZING IS HOW ACCURATE |
| 00:05:05 | SOME PREDICTIONS WERE,
ESPECIALLY SINCE IT SEEMED TO |
| 00:05:09 | MANY VOTERS THAT THIS WAS A
CLOSE ELECTION WITH THE |
| 00:05:12 | POSSIBILITY OF A LOT OF
SURPRISES. |
| 00:05:13 | TWO OF THE PROGNOSTICATORS WHO
TURNED OUT TO BE THE MOST |
| 00:05:17 | ACCURATE ARE HERE TO TALK ABOUT
HOW RIGHT THEY WERE, AND WHAT |
| 00:05:19 | THEY SEE AHEAD.
NEIL CLARK IS THE FORMER BUDGET |
| 00:05:22 | DIRECTOR FOR THE OHIO SENATE
REPUBLICAN CAUCUS AND NOW THE |
| 00:05:24 | OWNER OF GRANT STREET
CONSULTANTS. |
| 00:05:25 | DALE BUTLAND IS A VETERAN OF
MANY DEMOCRATIC POLITICAL AND |
| 00:05:31 | CAUSE CAMPAIGNS AND NOW THE
COMMUNICATIONS DIRECTOR OF THE |
| 00:05:33 | THINK TANK INNOVATION OHIO.
YOU PREDICTED THAT OBAMA WOULD |
| 00:05:45 | BE ROMNEY 50% 10 TO 49.7% WITH
60% VOTER TURNOUT, 70 REPUBLICAN |
| 00:05:53 | COUNTIES, 16 DEMOCRATIC.
THE OFFICIAL RESULT WAS 51.8% |
| 00:05:58 | TO 4120%, 61% TURNOUT, THAT IS
NOT TOO BAD. |
| 00:06:03 | I WANT TO ASK YOU HOW YOU CAME
TO THESE CONCLUSIONS GIVEN THAT |
| 00:06:08 | THIS WAS A CAMPAIGN WHERE IN THE
LAST TO DEBUT WEEKS THERE WAS A |
| 00:06:12 | NARRATIVE GOING REPUBLICANS,
EVEN THE NOMINEE, WAS BELIEVED |
| 00:06:16 | THE POLLS WERE WRONG, THAT
ROMNEY WOULD WIN. |
| 00:06:18 | FOR ME, IN OHIO, I WENT BACK
SOME FIVE CYCLES OF RACES FOR |
| 00:06:26 | PRESIDENT AND CREATED A MODEL
THAT WOULD PREDICT WHAT COUNTIES |
| 00:06:29 | WOULD ULTIMATELY DO.
IN THAT MODEL, I DID AVERAGES |
| 00:06:35 | AND CONSTRUCTIVE IT SO THAT IN
THIS PARTICULAR ELECTION, I WAS |
| 00:06:39 | 90% ACCURATE ON EACH OF THE
COUNTIES WITH THE EXCEPTION OF |
| 00:06:43 | BELMONT AND JEFFERSON, WHO FOR
THE FIRST TIME, VOTED REPUBLICAN |
| 00:06:46 | IN A FIVE-CYCLE PERIOD.
IN MOST CASES, WHEN IT COMES TO |
| 00:06:52 | PRESIDENTIAL RACES, THESE
COUNTIES HAVE A TREND THAT THEY |
| 00:06:55 | STICK TO IN AND ABIDE BY PIER
WHAT IS INTERESTING IN THE |
| 00:06:58 | ANALYSIS THAT I DID IN THIS
PARTICULAR RACE, AND THE |
| 00:07:03 | ULTIMATE CONCLUSION OF THE RACE,
IS THAT THE SUPER CEL, CUYAHOGA |
| 00:07:10 | AND FRANKLIN COUNTY, WHICH IS
PROVIDING 400,000 DEMOCRAT |
| 00:07:14 | ACCESS VOTES, WILL HAVE A MAJOR
IMPACT ON OHIO POLITICS. |
| 00:07:17 | >> IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU SAY IT IS
REALLY ABOUT THE MATH. |
| 00:07:21 | THE MESSAGE IT DID NOT REALLY
MATTER. |
| 00:07:24 | IT IS ABOUT THE TREND.
IF YOU STRIP WE LOOK AT THE |
| 00:07:28 | FACTS, THE NUMBERS, YOU COME TO
THE CONCLUSION THAT THE NUMBERS |
| 00:07:32 | WILL PREVAIL, REGARDLESS OF WHAT
PEOPLE MAY BE SAYING ABOUT |
| 00:07:38 | POLLS.
I THINK THERE IS A LOT OF |
| 00:07:40 | CRITICISM THAT HAS TO BE GIVEN
TO POLLSTERS WHO USE AND |
| 00:07:44 | INACCURATE MODEL FOR OHIO
BECAUSE THAT SAME POLLSTER WAS |
| 00:07:48 | THE PERSON FOR THE HOUSE AND
SENATE, WHICH THEN, IF YOU'RE |
| 00:07:51 | DOING IT WRONG FOR ROMNEY, IT
WILL BE WRONG FOR EVERYONE ELSE. |
| 00:07:55 | I THINK THAT IS A PROBLEM IN
THIS PARTICULAR CYCLE. |
| 00:07:59 | WE SAW THE MAJORITY OF POLES
THAT WERE DONE BY INTERNET WERE |
| 00:08:05 | FAR MORE ACCURATE THAN OTHER
METHODS. |
| 00:08:08 | OF THE TOP-10 ACRID POLLS THIS
SESSION, 54 INTERNET, WHICH I |
| 00:08:12 | WOULD HAVE NEVER THOUGHT.
>> DALE, YOU PREDICTED OBAMA |
| 00:08:17 | WOULD WIN BY TWO POINTS.
YOU ALSO SAID HE WOULD WIN |
| 00:08:21 | VIRGINIA, IOWA, NEV., AND THAT
HE WOULD GET 3050 ELECTORAL |
| 00:08:26 | VOTES BUT MAYBE MORE.
FLORIDA WENT BLUE. |
| 00:08:29 | I AM WONDERING HOW YOU CAME TO
THIS CONCLUSION WHEN IT LOOKED |
| 00:08:35 | LIKE, ESPECIALLY AFTER THE FIRST
DEBATE, OBAMA'S LEAD WAS |
| 00:08:41 | SLIPPING AWAY, REPUBLICANS
APPEAR TO BE ENERGIZED. |
| 00:08:43 | HOW DID YOU COME UP WITH THIS?
>> I WISH I COULD SAY I WAS |
| 00:08:47 | PSYCHIC.
ALL YOU HAD TO DO WAS LOOK AT |
| 00:08:49 | THE BATTLEGROUND STATE POLLS.
THERE IS A FELLOW NAMED NATE |
| 00:08:54 | SILVER.
HE IS AN AGGREGATE OF POLLS. |
| 00:08:56 | WHAT HE FOUND ALL THE WAY
THROUGH WAS THAT, ALTHOUGH |
| 00:09:02 | ROMNEY DID PICK UP STEAM AFTER
THE FIRST DEBATE, HIS MOMENTUM |
| 00:09:07 | STOPPED AROUND OCTOBER 13.
BASICALLY, THE RACE WENT BACK TO |
| 00:09:12 | WHAT IT WAS BEFORE THE TWO
CONVENTIONS. |
| 00:09:15 | VERY CLOSE BUT WITH OBAMA ON
TOP. |
| 00:09:18 | IN TERMS OF OHIO AND IS ANOTHER
BATTLEGROUND STATES, AND OHIO, I |
| 00:09:22 | DO NOT THINK THERE WAS A SINGLE
POLL THAT SHOWED ROMNEY AHEAD. |
| 00:09:25 | ALL OF THEM HAD OBAMA AHEAD.
THIS IS NOT ROCKET SCIENCE. |
| 00:09:30 | I WANT TO SAY ONE THING ABOUT
TURNOUT MODELS THAT WAS JUST |
| 00:09:34 | MENTIONED, BECAUSE I THINK IT IS
ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. |
| 00:09:38 | THE REASON THE REPUBLICANS WERE
ALL CONVINCED THAT THE POLLS |
| 00:09:41 | WERE FAVORING OBAMA WAS BECAUSE
IT HAS TO DO WITH WHAT YOU |
| 00:09:46 | BELIEVE WILL BE THE TURNOUT
APPEARED EVERY POLLSTER HAS TO |
| 00:09:50 | BUILD A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF
ASSUMPTIONS IN HIS POLL. |
| 00:09:53 | YOU ARE NOT INTERVIEW EVERY
PERSON. |
| 00:09:55 | YOU ARE TAKING A REPRESENTATIVE
SAMPLE. |
| 00:09:58 | WHAT THE POLLSTERS ALL THOUGHT
WAS THAT THERE WOULD BE MORE |
| 00:10:03 | SELF-ARE IDENTIFIED DEMOCRATS
COMING OUT THAN SELF-IDENTIFIED |
| 00:10:06 | REPUBLICANS.
THAT TURNED OUT TO BE THE CASE. |
| 00:10:08 | NATIONALLY, THE DEMOCRATS WERE
ABOUT + 6. |
| 00:10:11 | WHAT FINALLY HAPPENED IN THE END
WAS PRETTY MUCH WHAT ALL THE |
| 00:10:16 | BATTLEGROUND POLLS SAID WOULD
HAPPEN. |
| 00:10:18 | LET ME SAY ONE OTHER THING.
TO ME, I THINK THE REPUBLICAN |
| 00:10:22 | PARTY HAS A REAL PROBLEM HERE.
THE COALITION THAT ELECTED |
| 00:10:28 | PRESIDENT OBAMA, MINORITIES --
AND NOT JUST AFRICAN-AMERICANS, |
| 00:10:32 | BUT HISPANICS, ASIAN-AMERICANS,
SO FORTH, WOMEN, VOTERS UNDER |
| 00:10:37 | 30.
THAT IS NOT A FLUKE ANY MORE, IT |
| 00:10:40 | IS A FORCE.
WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE |
| 00:10:42 | PERCENTAGES BY WHICH OBAMA WON
EACH OF THOSE GROUPS, UNLESS THE |
| 00:10:49 | REPUBLICAN PARTY CAN FIND OUT
HOW TO APPEAL TO PARTICULARLY |
| 00:10:52 | SINGLE WOMEN, HISPANIC VOTERS,
WHICH THEY ARE LOSING 70-30, |
| 00:10:58 | YOUNG PEOPLE -- THAT IS THE
OTHER THING. |
| 00:11:00 | A LOT OF REPUBLICAN NEVER
THOUGHT YOUNG PEOPLE WOULD TURN |
| 00:11:03 | OUT IN THE SAME NUMBERS THEY DID
IN 2008, BECAUSE 2008 WAS AN |
| 00:11:07 | HISTORIC YEAR.
AS IT TURNS OUT, IN 2008, YOUNG |
| 00:11:12 | VOTERS WERE 18% OF THE
ELECTORATE. |
| 00:11:16 | THIS TIME, THEY WERE 19% OF THE
ELECTORATE. |
| 00:11:19 | UNLESS YOU CAN TEAR OUT A WAY --
AND IT IS NOT JUST DEMOGRAPHIC |
| 00:11:24 | AND POLITICAL.
IT IS CULTURAL AND SOCIAL. |
| 00:11:27 | THOSE YOUNG VOTERS HAVE MUCH
MORE IN COMMON WITH DEMOCRATIC |
| 00:11:30 | VALUES AND A REPUBLICAN VALUES
RIGHT NOW, AND THAT IS A LONG- |
| 00:11:34 | TERM PROBLEM FOR THE
REPUBLICANS. |
| 00:11:35 | >> THE REPUBLICANS HAVE BECOME
TOO WHITE, RIGHT, AND OLD. |
| 00:11:42 | COLLEGE STUDENTS ARE COMING OUT
OF SCHOOL WITH HUGE DEBT, THEY |
| 00:11:48 | DO NOT HAVE THE RIGHT JOBS, AND
NOT HAVE A PLACE TO FALL IN THE |
| 00:11:52 | REPUBLICAN PARTY.
BUT THAT IS PART OF HOW YOU MAKE |
| 00:11:56 | CHANGE.
I HAVE ALWAYS BEEN A MODERATE |
| 00:11:58 | REPUBLICAN AND I HAVE ALWAYS
BELIEVED THE BEST WAY FOR US DO |
| 00:12:01 | BUSINESS IN THE STATE IS TO
FOCUS ON JOBS AND WE ARE DOING |
| 00:12:05 | FOR PEOPLE AND THEIR
POCKETBOOKS, MAKING SURE THAT |
| 00:12:07 | OUR KIDS ARE EDUCATED SO THEY
CAN GET A JOB AND STAY IN OHIO. |
| 00:12:13 | >> LET'S TALK ABOUT THE OHIO
HOUSE. |
| 00:12:15 | THE HOUSE CAME IN WITH A 59-40
MAJORITY. |
| 00:12:18 | RIGHT NOW, THERE ARE TO IT --
STILL THREE SEATS IN CONTENTION, |
| 00:12:23 | BUT IT LOOKS LIKE IT COULD BE
60-39. |
| 00:12:25 | >> MORE THAN LIKELY.
>> I WONDER WHAT THAT SAYS ABOUT |
| 00:12:33 | OHIO, THE STATE WENT FOR OBAMA,
REELECTED SHARON BROWN, WHO MANY |
| 00:12:38 | SAY IS THE MOST LIBERAL SENATOR
IN THE U.S., BUT THE OHIO HOUSE |
| 00:12:42 | GAINED A SEAT.
>> WE DID NOT RUN BY LINES. |
| 00:12:47 | THAT IS THE REASON.
OBAMA AND SHARON BROWN DID NOT |
| 00:12:51 | RUN BY LINES.
IT IS CLEAR, AND THAT IS WHY |
| 00:12:59 | REDISTRICTING IS SO IMPORTANT IN
THIS STATE AND WHY PEOPLE FIGHT |
| 00:13:02 | EVERY FOUR YEARS TO MAKE SURE
THEY CONTROL A GOOD PART OF |
| 00:13:05 | THOSE ELECTED OFFICIALS, BECAUSE
IT HAS AN IMPACT. |
| 00:13:08 | >> NEIL IS ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.
WHEN YOU TOTAL UP ALL THE VOTES |
| 00:13:15 | THAT THE DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATES
FOR THE OHIO HOUSE CUTPURSES ALL |
| 00:13:18 | THE VOTES THAT THE REPUBLICAN
HOUSE GOD, DEMOCRATS ALSO -- |
| 00:13:23 | ACTUALLY GOT MORE VOTES THAN
REPUBLICAN CANDIDATES, BUT IN |
| 00:13:26 | THE END, IT WILL BE 60
REPUBLICANS AND 39 DEMOCRATS. |
| 00:13:30 | >> 1 FEWER DEMOCRATS.
>> THAT IS THE POWER OF |
| 00:13:34 | GERRYMANDERING AND
REDISTRICTING. |
| 00:13:35 | THE SAME IS TRUE NATIONALLY.
JOHN BOEHNER MAKES A BIG DEAL |
| 00:13:40 | OUT OF IT, THIS IS ABOUT
GERRYMANDERING. |
| 00:13:45 | THE WHOLE UPPER MIDWEST, PLUS
N.C.. |
| 00:13:49 | IF YOU LOOK AT THE STATE WHERE
THEY DO NOT ALLOW |
| 00:13:52 | GERRYMANDERING, ARIZONA,
CALIFORNIA, FLORIDA, WE ARE |
| 00:13:56 | GAINING SEATS THERE.
IF WE DID NOT ALLOW |
| 00:13:59 | GERRYMANDERING IN OHIO, OR ANY
MOST ELSE IN THE COUNTRY, I |
| 00:14:03 | THINK JOHN BOEHNER WOULD HAVE
BEEN GOING BACK TO THE HOUSE AS |
| 00:14:06 | THE MINORITY LEADER.
>> NO REDISTRICTING LOST SINCE |
| 00:14:12 | 2006 ACCEPTED A HIGH A FEW
NIGHTS AGO. |
| 00:14:13 | THAT WAS BECAUSE THE LANGUAGE
WAS TOO COMPREHENSIVE, TO BID, |
| 00:14:17 | TOO CONFUSING.
IF YOU KEPT IT SIMPLE, IT WOULD |
| 00:14:19 | HAVE PASSED.
IN REALITY, IT WAS TOO COMPLEX. |
| 00:14:23 | UNLESS SOMEBODY COMES BACK WITH
SOMETHING THAT IS FAR LESS |
| 00:14:27 | COMPLEX, IT WILL STAY THIS WAY.
>> THE UPSHOT OF THIS IS THAT |
| 00:14:32 | THE DEMOCRATS LOST A SEAT IN THE
HOUSE, DID NOT GAIN ANYTHING IN |
| 00:14:35 | THE SENATE.
IS THERE RELEVANCE SLIPPING AWAY |
| 00:14:39 | WHEN IT COMES TO STATE
GOVERNMENT? |
| 00:14:42 | >> I DO NOT THINK THE RELEVANCE
IS SLIPPING AWAY, BUT IT |
| 00:14:46 | REFLECTS -- WE HAVE GOT TO DO
SOMETHING THE WAY THAT THINGS |
| 00:14:49 | ARE GERRYMANDERED.
WE HAVE A 50-50 STATE HERE |
| 00:14:52 | PRETTY MUCH.
THERE IS NO REASON WHY THE |
| 00:14:55 | LEGISLATURE AND NUMBER OF
MEMBERS FROM EACH PARTY DOES NOT |
| 00:14:58 | REFLECT THAT.
>> AND CONGRESS AS WELL. |
| 00:15:02 | >> ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.
I WOULD ARGUE YOU CAN ALSO GET |
| 00:15:06 | RID OF SOME OF THE PARTISANSHIP
-- NOT ALL OF IT -- BUT SOME OF |
| 00:15:10 | IT, IF YOU HAVE COMPETITIVE
DISTRICTS. |
| 00:15:13 | IF YOU HAVE AN UNCOMPETITIVE
DISTRICT WHERE A REPUBLICAN |
| 00:15:16 | OFFICER KNOWS HE WILL NEVER LOSE
IN A GENERAL ELECTION AND ONLY |
| 00:15:20 | NEEDS TO WORRY ABOUT BEING
CHALLENGED FROM THE RIGHT, |
| 00:15:23 | DEMOCRATS WORRIED ABOUT
CHALLENGING FROM THE LEFT, IT |
| 00:15:25 | PUTS A PREMIUM ON NOT
COOPERATING. |
| 00:15:28 | >> BECAUSE OF THE WAY THE LINES
ARE DRAWN, BECAUSE OF THE WAY |
| 00:15:32 | REPUBLICANS ARE ALL JOINED
TOGETHER WITH THE SAME |
| 00:15:35 | CONSULTANTS, DOING THE SAME
WORK, EVERYTHING IS BECOMING THE |
| 00:15:38 | SAME, SO THEY ARE TALKING TO
THEMSELVES, SO THERE IS A |
| 00:15:42 | SURPRISE ON ELECTION DAY, I
THOUGHT WE WERE RIGHT. |
| 00:15:45 | IF THEY WERE IN COMPETITIVE
RACES, YOU'D HAVE TO HAVE A |
| 00:15:48 | BROAD BASED COALITION OF PEOPLE
COMING INTO THE ROOM TO QUESTION |
| 00:15:52 | SOME OF THE DECISIONS THEY ARE
MAKING. |
| 00:15:54 | MAYBE THERE IS A DIFFERENT WAY
TO DO RACES. |
| 00:15:56 | I AM STUNNED COMING IN THIS
STATE, IF YOU HAVE AN IRISH |
| 00:16:01 | NAME, YOU WILL PROBABLY BE ON
THE SUPREME COURT. |
| 00:16:03 | HE IS A FAMOUS MAN BUT HE LOST
TO BILL O'NEIL. |
| 00:16:10 | IF YOU LOOK AT THE NUMBERS, HE
LOST PRETTY HUGE. |
| 00:16:13 | HOW DID THIS HAPPEN?
IF THAT IS HOW SHALL WE ARE |
| 00:16:17 | GOING TO GET --
>> AND BY THE SAME TOKEN, BROWN |
| 00:16:22 | LOST TO ANOTHER PERSON WITH AN
IRISH NAME. |
| 00:16:24 | >> I AGREE, I WOULD RATHER HAVE
COMPETITIVE DISTRICTS. |
| 00:16:28 | I WOULD RATHER GO INTO A
PROCESS WHERE WE DO GET OUT ON |
| 00:16:32 | POLICY.
I THINK THIS IS A DANGEROUS |
| 00:16:35 | PLACE TO BE, AND HISTORY WILL
PROVE IT TO YOU. |
| 00:16:37 | GO BACK AND READ "WHATEVER IS
FAIR" AND YOU WILL FIND OUT WHAT |
| 00:16:45 | HISTORY WAS LIKE WHEN ONE PARTY
DOMINATED. |
| 00:16:48 | >> THESE ARE YOUR COLLEAGUES.
WHAT ARE THE CHANCES YOU SEE |
| 00:16:51 | THIS HAPPENING?
>> I DO NOT. |
| 00:16:55 | >> HAVING SAID ALL THAT.
>> UNLESS SOMEONE PUTS FORWARD A |
| 00:16:58 | VALID THAT CHANGES THE WAY THE
LINES ARE DRAWN, IT WILL BE THIS |
| 00:17:02 | WAY FOR THE NEXT 10, 20 YEARS.
>> LET ME GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE OF |
| 00:17:05 | HOW THIS IMPACTS THINGS.
WE HAVE A LAME DUCK SESSION |
| 00:17:09 | COMING UP.
WE JUST SAW WHAT HAPPENED IN |
| 00:17:12 | THIS ELECTION JUST PAST, NOT
EVEN ONE WEEK OLD. |
| 00:17:14 | FASTER THAN YOU CAN SAY TAUGHT
TAKEN AND RICHARD MURDOCK, HERE |
| 00:17:20 | THEY GO AGAIN, HERE COME BACK
THE REPUBLICANS. |
| 00:17:23 | IN THE LAME-DUCK SESSION, BUT
OTHER BIG ISSUES BEAT? |
| 00:17:26 | THEY ARE GOING TO BRING BACK THE
BILL TO DEFUND PLANNED |
| 00:17:31 | PARENTHOOD, THE SO-CALLED PART B
BILL THAT WOULD OUTLAW ABORTION |
| 00:17:34 | EVEN IN CASES OF RAPE AND
INCEST. |
| 00:17:37 | THIS IS RIDICULOUS.
THESE FOLKS APPARENTLY HAVE NOT |
| 00:17:42 | LEARNED ANYTHING, THEY THINK
THEY HAVE LICENSE NOW TO |
| 00:17:44 | CONTINUE THIS RIGHT-WING
EXTREMIST AGENDA, BECAUSE |
| 00:17:48 | PERHAPS, AS NEIL SAID, THEY
HAVE BEEN SO GERRYMANDERED, THEY |
| 00:17:56 | HAVE NOTHING TO WORRY ABOUT.
>> I HAVE TO GO HOME TO A 23- |
| 00:18:01 | YEAR-OLD DAUGHTER AND MY WIFE,
AND THEY WILL BE SO CURIOUS |
| 00:18:04 | ABOUT HEARING THAT, THAT THEY
ARE BRINGING THESE ISSUES BACK |
| 00:18:08 | UP IN THE SHORT TERM LAME DUCK
SESSION. |
| 00:18:09 | >> I AM STUNNED.
THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY, A LOOK AT |
| 00:18:15 | THE INDEXES.
ONLY ABOUT EIGHT PEOPLE FROM |
| 00:18:17 | MARGINAL DISTRICTS, BOTH
REPUBLICAN AND DEMOCRAT SIDE. |
| 00:18:20 | YOU CAN DO IT WHAT YOU WANT TO
DO WITH EVERYTHING ELSE. |
| 00:18:23 | BUT THE FACT IS, THE PUBLIC IS
WATCHING THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY. |
| 00:18:27 | WE JUST TOLD YOU.
HISPANICS, WOMEN. |
| 00:18:31 | THOSE THAT ARE UNDERSERVED,
DISADVANTAGED. |
| 00:18:34 | WHY YOU KEEP DOING THIS TO ME?
>> LEAVE ASIDE THE FACT THAT WE |
| 00:18:40 | HAD A LANDSLIDE, THE DEMOCRATS,
IN THE ELECTORAL COLLEGE. |
| 00:18:43 | ON THE POPULAR SIDE, THE
DEMOCRATS HAVE WON FIVE OF THE |
| 00:18:48 | LAST SIX PRESIDENTIAL ELECTIONS.
THAT TELLS ME THAT PEOPLE ARE |
| 00:18:52 | NOT BUYING THE REPUBLICANS ARE
SELLING. |
| 00:18:53 | >> THE DEMOCRATS ON ELECTION
NIGHT HELD OUT SIGN THAT SAID |
| 00:18:58 | KASICH, YOU ARE NEXT.
IF THE NEXT CAMPAIGN STARTS NOW, |
| 00:19:05 | IS HE THE NEXT TARGET?
ABOUT 2014, WHO DO THE DEMOCRATS |
| 00:19:14 | PUT UP IF THEY BELIEVED KASICH
IS THE NEXT TARGET, WHO ARE THE |
| 00:19:19 | POTENTIAL CANDIDATES?
>> LIKE A LOT OF VOTERS IN OHIO |
| 00:19:24 | -- AS HENRY KISSINGER USED TO
SAY RIGIDITIES TO BE A DECENT |
| 00:19:28 | INTERVAL BETWEEN THE ELECTIONS.
>> BUT WITH ALL THE MONEY THAT |
| 00:19:31 | NEEDS TO BE RAISED, YOU HAVE TO
START RIGHT NOW. |
| 00:19:34 | >> OBVIOUSLY, FORMER GOV.
STRICKLAND WOULD BE A VIABLE |
| 00:19:38 | CANDIDATE.
WE HAVE GOOD CANDIDATES AROUND |
| 00:19:40 | THE STATE.
WE HAVE A COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR |
| 00:19:43 | IN CLEVELAND.
WE HAVE A CONGRESSMAN, TIM RYAN, |
| 00:19:48 | IN YOUNGSTOWN, WHO WOULD BE A
GREAT KIND OF IT. |
| 00:19:50 | WE HAVE A LOT OF THEM.
FRANKLY, I AM LOOKING FOR TO THE |
| 00:19:54 | REPUBLICAN SIDE.
I AM LOOKING FORWARD TO THE |
| 00:19:57 | PRIMARY BETWEEN KASICH AND
MANDEL. |
| 00:20:02 | [LAUGHTER]
>> LET'S TALK ABOUT GOVERNOR |
| 00:20:05 | KASICH --
>> IN A YEAR'S TIME, TWO YEARS' |
| 00:20:11 | TIME, THE MAN HAS COME FROM A
LOW OF 30% APPROVAL RATING, NOW |
| 00:20:19 | TO 56%.
HE DID THE RIGHT THING ABOUT |
| 00:20:21 | MAKING SURE THE GENERAL
ASSEMBLY BAILED OUT CLEVELAND BY |
| 00:20:25 | PUTTING UP THE EDUCATION PLAN,
WHICH PASSED. |
| 00:20:28 | HIS NUMBERS ARE GOING UP.
AS HIS NUMBERS GO UP, HE WILL BE |
| 00:20:32 | HARDER TO BEAT.
BUT WHAT BRINGS ME BACK TO |
| 00:20:36 | REALITY IS THIS SUPER CELL OF
CUYAHOGA AND FRANKLIN COUNTY. |
| 00:20:41 | IF A REPUBLICAN CANDIDATE DOES
NOT PLAY TO THOSE COUNTIES, DOES |
| 00:20:46 | NOT HAVE THE RIGHT STRUCTURE
THERE, YOU COULD BE IN TROUBLE. |
| 00:20:48 | >> AND I WOULD SAY GOVERNOR
KASICH'S IMPROVING POLL RATINGS |
| 00:20:54 | ARE DIRECTLY IMPROVE TO THE
IMPROVING -- ARE DIRECTLY |
| 00:20:58 | CONNECTED TO THE IMPROVING
ECONOMY, WHICH IS |
| 00:21:04 | DIRECTLY TIED TO THE AUTO
BAILOUT. |
| 00:21:05 | THE POLICIES THAT HE IS PURSUING
ARE THE SAME OLD REPUBLICAN |
| 00:21:11 | POLICIES, MORE TAX CUTS FOR THE
WEALTHY, MORE BUDGET CUTS FOR |
| 00:21:16 | EVERYONE ELSE.
IN CLEVELAND, FOR EXAMPLE -- |
| 00:21:19 | I ACTUALLY DISAGREE WITH THAT.
WHEN THE SCHOOL OF FUNDING IS |
| 00:21:25 | FOR GOVERNOR CASEY, WE CUT FUNDS
-- STATE FUNDS FOR PLACES LIKE |
| 00:21:31 | CLEVELAND, AND THEN WE ASK SOME
OF THE POOREST PEOPLE IN OUR |
| 00:21:35 | STATE, WHERE THE AVERAGE INCOME
IS ABOUT $24,000 A YEAR, WE ASK |
| 00:21:40 | THEM TO INCREASE THEIR PROPERTY
TAXES 50 MILLION TO INCREASE |
| 00:21:45 | THESE CUTS.
>> I WILL NOT DISAGREE WITH THIS |
| 00:21:47 | PART.
THE DEMOCRATS USED, IN THEIR |
| 00:21:51 | COMMERCIAL THIS YEAR, A $1.8
BILLION CUT IN EDUCATION. |
| 00:21:55 | THAT IS THE UNDERBELLY TO
REPUBLICANS IN THIS ELECTION. |
| 00:21:58 | HE IS NOT THERE TO TAX THE RICH.
HE IS SAYING TO THE FRACKING |
| 00:22:03 | INDUSTRY, WHICH SHOULD HAVE BEEN
TAXED A LONG TIME AGO AT A MUCH |
| 00:22:07 | BIGGER RATE THAN THE GOVERNOR
WANTS. |
| 00:22:08 | I WANT TO GIVE YOU A TAX CUT.
I CAN SEE THAT AS BEING FAIRLY |
| 00:22:14 | CONVINCING TO ME AND OTHERS.
WHERE I AM MORE CONCERNED ABOUT, |
| 00:22:18 | THE REASON I THINK HIS NUMBERS
HAVE GONE UP, HE HAS LEARNED NOT |
| 00:22:22 | TO TALK ABOUT SOCIAL ISSUES
ANYMORE. |
| 00:22:24 | HE DOESN'T MAKE STATEMENTS ANY
MORE ABOUT THINGS LIKE THAT. |
| 00:22:28 | HE FOCUSES ON JOBS.
>> HE DOES NOT TALK ABOUT IT, |
| 00:22:32 | BUT WHAT DOES HE DO?
WE JUST HAD ANOTHER APPOINTMENT |
| 00:22:35 | TO THE OHIO STATE MEDICAL BOARD.
THIS IS THE PRESIDENT OF OHIO |
| 00:22:39 | RIGHT TO LIFE.
>> HE IS A LAWYER BY TRAINING. |
| 00:22:43 | >> THERE ARE ONLY THREE CONSUMER
SPOTS. |
| 00:22:46 | TWO ARE NOW OCCUPIED BY BOARD
MEMBERS OF ALL HIGH RIGHT TO |
| 00:22:49 | LIFE.
WITH REGARD TO FRACKING, THIS IS |
| 00:22:52 | A PERFECT EXAMPLE.
HE WANTS TO KEEP OHIO'S |
| 00:22:56 | SEVERANCE TAX RATE, EVEN WITH
THE NEW REPOSED, THE SECOND |
| 00:23:00 | LOWEST IN THE COUNTRY.
WHAT DOES HE WANT TO DO WITH THE |
| 00:23:03 | MONEY?
RESTORE THE CUTS FOR LOCAL |
| 00:23:05 | GOVERNMENTS OR SCHOOLS?
HE WANTS TO DO ANOTHER INCOME |
| 00:23:08 | TAX CUT.
AND WHO WILL BE THE PRIMARY |
| 00:23:10 | BENEFICIARY?
THE WEALTHIEST OHIOANS. |
| 00:23:13 | THAT IS WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.
>> KEEP IN MIND, 2% OF THE |
| 00:23:17 | POPULATION PAY THE BULK OF THE
TAXES IN THE STATE. |
| 00:23:20 | WE NEED TO KEEP A REALITY CHECK
ABOUT WHAT MONEY IS COMING IN. |
| 00:23:24 | MORE IMPORTANTLY, WE AGREE THAT
THE SEVERANCE TAX NEEDS TO BE |
| 00:23:28 | INCREASED.
I THINK THE GOVERNOR OF TO |
| 00:23:31 | INCREASE IT MORE THAN HE IS
DOING. |
| 00:23:32 | WE WILL BE LOSING THIS IN 15
YEARS, SO WE NEED TO MAKE SURE |
| 00:23:37 | WE ARE GETTING OUR RETURN.
THIS IS AN ACID THAT BELONGS TO |
| 00:23:42 | THE STATE.
PROPERTY OWNERS SAY IT IS |
| 00:23:44 | THEIRS, BUT THIS IS A NATURAL
RESOURCE THAT WILL BE SHARED FOR |
| 00:23:47 | THE BENEFIT OF ALL OF US.
KNOWING FULLY WELL THAT IS A THE |
| 00:23:51 | PUNISHING RESOURCE, YOU NEED TO
BE COORDINATED A ROUND THAT. |
| 00:24:00 | >> THE REPUBLICAN PARTY HAVING A
PROBLEM, SO TO SPEAK, A PROBLEM |
| 00:24:05 | THAT JOHN KASICH OR ROB PORTMAN
COULD FIX BY BEING THE NOMINEE |
| 00:24:09 | IN 2014?
>> IT IS TIME FOR US TO LOOK AT |
| 00:24:14 | OPTIONS.
I WOULD PERSONALLY RATHER SEE |
| 00:24:15 | RUBIO.
I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A GUY FROM |
| 00:24:19 | FLORIDA WHO IS HISPANIC.
I WOULD PERSONALLY RATHER SEE A |
| 00:24:22 | WOMAN.
>> BUT DO YOU THINK JOHN KASICH |
| 00:24:26 | WOULD BE INTERESTED IN RUNNING?
>> I AM SURE HE WOULD BE. |
| 00:24:29 | BUT AGAIN, WE NEED TO KEEP
RECOGNIZING THE PUBLIC. |
| 00:24:33 | WE HAVE A PROBLEM WITH WOMEN.
WE CONTINUE TO ALIENATE |
| 00:24:37 | OURSELVES WITH THE HISPANIC
VOTE. |
| 00:24:39 | A GUY LIKE RUBIO, WELL-EDUCATED
FROM FLORIDA, COULD DOMINATE. |
| 00:24:44 | >> I THINK IT DEPENDS LESS ON TO
THE PERSONALITIES ARE. |
| 00:24:49 | RIGHT NOW, THE FAR RIGHT WING,
THE TEA PARTY, IS CONTROLLING |
| 00:24:54 | THE NOMINATING PROCESS.
THAT IS WHY THEY PUSHED MITT |
| 00:24:58 | ROMNEY SO FAR TO THE RIGHT HE
HAD TO DISAVOW VIRTUALLY EVERY |
| 00:25:01 | MODERATE POSITION HE EVER HELD,
AND HE MADE HIMSELF TOO |
| 00:25:06 | CONSERVATIVE FOR THE GENERAL
ELECTION. |
| 00:25:08 | YOU CANNOT JUST PUT A SOMBRERO
ON THE REPUBLICAN ELEPHANT AND |
| 00:25:13 | THING THAT WILL SOLVE ALL YOUR
PROBLEMS WITH LATINO VOTERS. |
| 00:25:16 | THE NEED TO DEMONSTRATE TO
LATINO VOTERS THAT YOU ARE GOING |
| 00:25:20 | TO DO SOMETHING THAT HELPED
THEM, THAT YOU HAVE SOME EMPATHY |
| 00:25:23 | FOR THEM.
SO FAR, AT LEAST, THE REPUBLICAN |
| 00:25:27 | RIGHT WING HAS NOT ALLOW THE
PARTY TO DO THAT. |
| 00:25:29 | >> YOU HAVE GOT TO ADDRESS
IMMIGRATION NOW. |
| 00:25:33 | >> THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.
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