| 00:00:37 | >> THE ELECTION IS STILL THIS
WEEK - AND NEXT WEEK - AS EARLY |
| 00:00:39 | VOTING CONTINUES.
IN AN ELECTION AS CLOSE AS THIS |
| 00:00:42 | ONE IS LIKELY TO BE, EVERY
VOTER COUNTS - AND THE MAJOR |
| 00:00:44 | PARTIES ARE WORKING HARD TO TRY
TO LURE IN EACH AND EVERY PERSON |
| 00:00:47 | WHO MIGHT BE ON THE FENCE.
AND THERE ARE PLENTY OF GROUPS |
| 00:00:51 | OF VOTERS WHO AREN'T THRILLED
AT THEIR CHOICES THIS TIME |
| 00:00:53 | AROUND.
AND THE PRESIDENTIAL AND VICE |
| 00:00:57 | PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATES HAVE
HAD THEIR TURNS AT THE PODIUM |
| 00:00:59 | BEFORE POTENTIAL VOTERS - NOW
IT'S THE CONTENDERS IN THE US |
| 00:01:02 | SENATE RACE THAT WILL FIGHT IT
OUT IN THEIR FIRST OF A SERIES |
| 00:01:04 | OF DEBATES.
WE'LL HAVE A PREVIEW. |
| 00:01:07 | ALL THIS WEEK IN "THE STATE OF
OHIO". |
| 00:01:09 | EARLY VOTING HAS BEEN GOING
STRONG IN OHIO FOR TWO WEEKS, |
| 00:01:16 | AND YET IT'S STILL UNCLEAR IF
THERE WILL BE VOTING ON THE |
| 00:01:22 | FINAL WEEKEND BEFORE THE
ELECTION. |
| 00:01:23 | THAT QUESTION MAY BE HEADED TO
THE US SUPREME COURT, NOW THAT |
| 00:01:25 | SECRETARY OF STATE JON HUSTED
HAS APPEALED A RULING BY THE |
| 00:01:27 | 6TH US CIRCUIT COURT OF APPEALS
SIDING WITH THE OBAMA |
| 00:01:30 | ADMINISTRATION AND OHIO
DEMOCRATS IN REINSTATING THE |
| 00:01:34 | FINAL THREE DAYS OF VOTING.
HUSTED CALLS THE RULING "AN |
| 00:01:39 | UNPRECEDENTED INTRUSION" IN HOW
STATES RUN ELECTIONS. |
| 00:01:41 | >> CLEARLY THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY
LAST YEAR ESTABLISHED THE RULES |
| 00:01:46 | FOR AN ELECTION THAT REALLY
PROVIDES EXPANSIVE OPPORTUNITY |
| 00:01:50 | AND ALSO PROVIDES INTEGRITY AND
SECURITY TO THE SYSTEM TO GIVE |
| 00:01:55 | BOARDS OF ELECTIONS AMPLE TIME
TO DO THEIR JOBS AS WELL. |
| 00:01:58 | AND WE BELIEVE THAT ELECTION
LAW SHOULD BE THE LAW OF THE |
| 00:02:02 | STATE OF OHIO, AND THAT THE
FEDERAL COURT SHOULDN'T BE |
| 00:02:05 | TELLING US HOW TO RUN OUR
ELECTIONS - THAT OHIOANS SHOULD |
| 00:02:08 | BE RUNNING OUR ELECTIONS.
IT'S A SITUATION WHERE |
| 00:02:14 | ESSENTIALLY THEY ARE CREATING
NEW FUNDAMENTAL RIGHTS IN THE |
| 00:02:20 | FEDERAL COURT SYSTEM FOR HOW
VOTERS ARE ACCESSING THE POLLS |
| 00:02:27 | THROUGH THE ELECTIONS PROCESS,
AND THAT IS REALLY AN |
| 00:02:32 | UNPRECEDENTED MOVE FOR THE
COURTS TO TAKE THAT KIND OF |
| 00:02:35 | ACTION.
>> A SPOKESPERSON FOR THE OHIO |
| 00:02:36 | REPUBLICAN PARTY AGREES, SAYING
OHIO WOULD BE THE ONLY STATE |
| 00:02:39 | THAT WOULD HAVE WEEKEND VOTING
HOURS, AND SINCE THIS IS A |
| 00:02:42 | CRITICAL SWING STATE, HE
DESCRIBES THAT AS "TROUBLING". |
| 00:02:44 | BUT A SPOKESPERSON FOR OBAMA
FOR AMERICA SAYS - QUOTING HERE |
| 00:02:49 | - "THERE'S NO JUSTIFICATION FOR
WHAT SHE CALLS THE STATE'S |
| 00:02:52 | ARBITRARY ACTIONS THIS YEAR IN
TRYING TO DENY THE VAST |
| 00:02:55 | MAJORITY OF OUR VOTERS ACCESS TO
OPEN POLLING PLACES FOR THE |
| 00:02:58 | LAST THREE DAYS BEFORE THE
ELECTION." |
| 00:02:59 | AND OF COURSE, ANOTHER WEEK,
ANOTHER SERIES OF CAMPAIGN |
| 00:03:04 | VISITS.
PRESIDENT OBAMA WAS AT WHAT HIS |
| 00:03:06 | CAMPAIGN DESCRIBES AS HIS
LARGEST OHIO EVENT YET, WHICH |
| 00:03:10 | HIS CAMPAIGN SAYS DREW 15-
THOUSAND PEOPLE TO OHIO STATE |
| 00:03:13 | UNIVERSITY (I HAVE A PICTURE).
MITT ROMNEY SPENT THE BETTER |
| 00:03:17 | PART OF THE WEEK IN OHIO,
TRAVELING TO CUYAHOGA FALLS, |
| 00:03:20 | SIDNEY, MT.
VERNON, DELAWARE AND LANCASTER, |
| 00:03:23 | OFTENTIMES IN THE COMPANY OF
NEW JERSEY GOV. |
| 00:03:25 | CHRIS CHRISTIE (I HAVE
PICTURES) AND IS IN PORTSMOUTH |
| 00:03:28 | AND LEBANON THIS WEEKEND, WHILE
HIS RUNNING MATE IS IN |
| 00:03:30 | YOUNGSTOWN.
ANOTHER STATE LAWMAKER HAS BEEN |
| 00:03:33 | INDICTED ON CRIMINAL CHARGES.
REP. CLAYTON LUCKIE, A DEMOCRAT |
| 00:03:37 | OF DAYTON, IS FACING A 49 COUNT
INDICTMENT THAT ACCUSES HIM OF |
| 00:03:41 | SKIMMING NEARLY $130,000 IN
CAMPAIGN FUNDS FOR HIS PERSONAL |
| 00:03:45 | USE AND FAILING TO LIST
CAMPAIGN EXPENDITURES FOR SIX |
| 00:03:49 | YEARS.
THE INVESTIGATION STARTED WHEN |
| 00:03:53 | OHIO ELECTIONS OFFICIALS DID A
SPOT CHECK OF LUCKIE'S CAMPAIGN |
| 00:03:56 | EXPENDITURES AND ASKED FOR SOME
CANCELLED CHECKS TO BACK THEM |
| 00:03:58 | UP.
AND FBI AGENT ED HANKO SAYS |
| 00:04:02 | LUCKIE WAS AWARE OF THE
INVESTIGATION. |
| 00:04:03 | >> WHAT REALLY SURPRISES ME IS
THAT EVEN AFTER WE SPOKE TO |
| 00:04:11 | CLAYTON LUCKIE AND ADVISED HIM
OF THIS INVESTIGATION |
| 00:04:14 | AND DISCUSSED MATTERS WITH HIM,
WE INTERVIEWED HIM SEVERAL |
| 00:04:21 | TIMES.
IN MARCH, WHEN WE INTERVIEWED |
| 00:04:24 | HIM, HE THEN WENT AND SUBMITTED
MORE FALSE DOCUMENTS. |
| 00:04:28 | IT IS ALMOST UNBELIEVABLE, BUT
HE WAS AT THE POINT WHERE HE HAD |
| 00:04:33 | TO SINCE 2006 WHERE HE PRODUCED
HIS TRADER RICHARD JONES WITH |
| 00:04:50 | WAS A FRAUDULENT DESIGNATION.
EVERY SIGNATURE HE MADESINCE |
| 00:04:53 | 2006 WAS FALSE.
>> LUCKIE SURRENDERED |
| 00:04:55 | VOLUNTARILY AND WAS IN FRANKLIN
COUNTY COMMON PLEAS COURT THIS |
| 00:04:57 | WEEK.
LUCKIE WAS UP FOR RE-ELECTION |
| 00:04:59 | THIS YEAR, BUT WITHDREW FROM THE
BALLOT WHEN HE LEARNED HE WAS |
| 00:05:02 | UNDER INVESTIGATION.
HOUSE SPEAKER WILLIAM |
| 00:05:04 | BATCHELDER IS NOW CALLING ON
LUCKIE TO RESIGN HIS HOUSE SEAT, |
| 00:05:06 | SAYING HE'S DAMAGED THE PUBLIC'S
TRUST. |
| 00:05:07 | THIS COMES FOUR MONTHS AFTER
FORMER REPRESENTATIVE WEDDINGS |
| 00:05:16 | OF COLUMBUS WENT TO JAIL FOR
BRIBERY AND OTHER ETHICS |
| 00:05:18 | VIOLATIONS.
AND A THIRD CASINO IS OPEN FOR |
| 00:05:20 | BUSINESS IN OHIO - THE
HOLLYWOOD CASINO COLUMBUS OPENED |
| 00:05:22 | ON COLUMBUS DAY.
IT'S THE STATE'S LARGEST, AND |
| 00:05:25 | THE SECOND CASINO OPERATED BY
PENN NATIONAL TO OPEN - THE |
| 00:05:29 | OTHER IS THE HOLLYWOOD CASINO
TOLEDO, WHICH OPENED IN MAY, A |
| 00:05:32 | FEW WEEKS AFTER THE HORSESHOE
CASINO CLEVELAND BECAME THE |
| 00:05:37 | FIRST CASINO IN OHIO TO THROW
OPEN ITS DOORS. |
| 00:05:39 | WHILE THE CROWDS AT THE
COLUMBUS CASINO WERE ESTIMATED |
| 00:05:41 | TO BE MUCH LARGER THAN THOSE AT
THE OPENINGS OF THE OTHER TWO |
| 00:05:45 | GAMBLING FACILITIES, NEW
FIGURES SHOW THAT CASINO |
| 00:05:47 | WAGERING IN OHIO HAS DECLINED
FOR THE THIRD STRAIGHT MONTH. |
| 00:05:48 | THE OHIO CASINO CONTROL
COMMISSION REPORTS COMBINED |
| 00:05:54 | WAGERS IN SEPTEMBER AT CASINOS
IN CLEVELAND AND TOLEDO WERE |
| 00:06:01 | $331.8 MILLION, DOWN 5 PERCENT
FROM AUGUST'S $349.6 MILLION. |
| 00:06:03 | THE FOURTH CASINO - THE ONE IN
CINCINNATI - OPENS NEXT YEAR. |
| 00:06:14 | POLLS SHOW THE RACE FOR
PRESIDENT IS TIGHTENING UP IN |
| 00:06:15 | OHIO.
AND THAT MEANS BOTH OF THE MAJOR |
| 00:06:16 | PARTY CAMPAIGNS ARE ZEROING IN
ON VOTERS THEY THINK THEY CAN |
| 00:06:25 | SWAY TO THEIR CANDIDATE.
THERE ARE SEVERAL GROUPS OF |
| 00:06:27 | VOTERS CONSIDERED KEY IN THIS
RACE - INDEPENDENT VOTERS, |
| 00:06:28 | UNDECIDED VOTERS, AND THOSE WHO
HAVE SPECIFIC ISSUES THEY'RE |
| 00:06:30 | CONCERNED ABOUT.
AND MANY OF THESE VOTERS AREN'T |
| 00:06:31 | COMPLETELY HAPPY WITH EITHER OF
THEIR CHOICES THIS FALL. |
| 00:06:32 | FOR INSTANCE, THE FRATERNAL
ORDER OF POLICE ISN'T ENDORSING |
| 00:06:34 | EITHER CANDIDATE FOR PRESIDENT
- IT ENDORSED THE REPUBLICAN |
| 00:06:38 | CANDIDATE IN THE LAST THREE
PRESIDENTIAL ELECTIONS. |
| 00:06:40 | THE UNITED MINE WORKERS UNION
IS ALSO SITTING OUT THE |
| 00:06:44 | PRESIDENTIAL RACE, AFTER
BACKING MR. OBAMA IN 2008. |
| 00:06:46 | BUT THERE ARE GROUPS THAT HAVE
ENDORSED CANDIDATES - SOMETIMES |
| 00:06:50 | WITH A BIT OF HESITATION.
THE OHIO FEDERATION OF TEACHERS |
| 00:06:54 | HAS ENDORSED PRESIDENT OBAMA,
AND OFT PRESIDENT MELISSA |
| 00:06:58 | CROPPER SAYS HE'S THE CANDIDATE
WHO MOST STRONGLY SUPPORTS |
| 00:07:01 | PUBLIC EDUCATION, WORKERS
RIGHTS, AND THE NEEDS AND |
| 00:07:04 | CONCERNS OF THE MIDDLE CLASS.
BUT OBAMA HAS ALSO BACKED MERIT |
| 00:07:07 | PAY FOR TEACHERS, AND HIS
EDUCATION SECRETARY ARNE DUNCAN |
| 00:07:11 | IS A SUPPORTER OF CHARTER
SCHOOLS. |
| 00:07:12 | >> YOU'RE NEVER GOING TO FIND
ANYONE YOU'RE 100% IN AGREEMENT |
| 00:07:16 | WITH
SO OF COURSE THERE HAVE BEEN |
| 00:07:22 | CONCERNS OVER THE YEAR, BUT
WHERE IT LOOKS LIKE WE MAY HAVE |
| 00:07:25 | HUGE DIFFERENCES, THE
DIFFERENCES ARE NOT THAT HUGE. |
| 00:07:28 | CHARTER SCHOOLS.
WE ARE NOT AGAINST CHARTER |
| 00:07:34 | SCHOOLS.
WE JUST WANT THEM HELP TO THE |
| 00:07:36 | SAME ACCOUNTABILITY AS PUBLIC
SCHOOLS. |
| 00:07:37 | THE MERIT PAY, WE ARE LOOKING AT
WAYS TO DIFFERENTIATE PAY FOR |
| 00:07:43 | PERFORMANCE AS IT IS.
IT IS JUST, HOW DO YOU MAKE THAT |
| 00:07:47 | HAPPEN?
WITH PRESIDENT OBAMA, AT LEAST |
| 00:07:49 | WE HAVE A CHANCE TO HAVE A VOICE
IN THE CONVERSATIONS. |
| 00:07:54 | TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION,
WHEREAS MITT ROMNEY HAS STATED |
| 00:07:59 | THAT HE DOES NOT THINK THAT WE
HAVE ANY VALUE, SO WE WOULD NOT |
| 00:08:02 | HAVE ANY VOICE IN THOSE
CONVERSATIONS. |
| 00:08:04 | >> AS TEACHERS THROUGHOUT OHIO
ARE WORKING THE PHONE BANKS AND |
| 00:08:08 | KNOCKING ON DOORS FOR PRESIDENT
OBAMA, ON THE OTHER SIDE, OHIO |
| 00:08:10 | RIGHT TO LIFE HAS ENDORSED GOV.
ON VOTERS THEY THINK THEYROMNEY. |
| 00:08:11 | THAT GROUP IS TEAMING UP WITH
THE SUSAN B. ANTHONY LIST TO RUN |
| 00:08:14 | ADS IN OHIO CLAIMING OBAMA IS AN
EXTREMIST ON ABORTION. |
| 00:08:15 | BUT ROMNEY HAS MADE COMMENTS IN
THE PAST ABOUT SUPPORTING A |
| 00:08:20 | WOMAN'S RIGHT TO CHOOSE, AND
THIS WEEK ROMNEY SAID - QUOTE, |
| 00:08:24 | "THERE'S NO LEGISLATION WITH
REGARDS TO ABORTION THAT I'M |
| 00:08:27 | FAMILIAR WITH THAT WOULD BECOME
PART OF MY AGENDA." |
| 00:08:28 | THAT HAS RAISED CONCERNS AMONG
SOME CONSERVATIVES THAT HE'S |
| 00:08:34 | SOFTENING HIS POSITION, AND
SOME OTHER CRITICS HAVE |
| 00:08:35 | SUGGESTED THAT HE'S TEMPORARILY
TRYING TO PRESENT A MORE |
| 00:08:38 | MODERATE STANCE FOR THE SOLE
PURPOSE OF BRINGING IN ANTI- |
| 00:08:41 | ABORTION DEMOCRATS.
STEPHANIE KRIDER IS THE |
| 00:08:45 | LEGISLATIVE DIRECTOR OF OHIO
RIGHT TO LIFE. |
| 00:08:46 | >> I KNOW PEOPLE HAVE MADE A LOT
OVER HIS COMMENTS |
| 00:08:49 | TODAY ABOUT ABORTION NOT BEING
ON HIS PLEDGE TO A DIVIDEND OF. |
| 00:09:00 | NO. 1, THE CANDIDATES SHOULD BE
TALKING ABOUT JOBS. |
| 00:09:02 | IT IS THE ECONOMY, STUPID.
HE HAS A JOBS PLAN HE IS WORKING |
| 00:09:07 | HARD ON.
HE IS COMMITTED TO REVERSING THE |
| 00:09:10 | MEXICO CITY POLICY, REVERSING
PRESIDENT OBAMA'S STAND ON STEM |
| 00:09:15 | CELL RESEARCH, REPEALING THE HHS
MANDATE. |
| 00:09:17 | THOSE ARE ALL WITHIN THE PURVIEW
OF THE PRESIDENT. |
| 00:09:20 | WE HAVE THREE BRANCHES OF
GOVERNMENT. |
| 00:09:24 | IT IS UP TO THE LEGISLATURE TO
PASS LEGISLATION. |
| 00:09:27 | HE IS COMMITTED TO SIGNING
ANYTHING THAT THEY PASS WHICH IS |
| 00:09:30 | PRO-LIFE.
HE WANTS TO AVOID CONSTITUTIONAL |
| 00:09:34 | JUSTICES TO THE SUPREME COURT,
SO THERE IS NO REASON FOR US TO |
| 00:09:38 | BE CONCERNED THAT HE IS NOT PRO-
LIFE. |
| 00:09:40 | HIS ACTIONS HAVE PROVED THAT HE
IS. |
| 00:09:42 | >> ANOTHER GROUP OF VOTERS
IMPORTANT TO REPUBLICANS ARE |
| 00:09:45 | THOSE WHO CALL THEMSELVES
MEMBERS OF THE TEA PARTY. |
| 00:09:47 | BUT THEY'VE ALSO BEEN FRUSTRATED
- MANY OF THEM SUPPORTED RICK |
| 00:09:49 | SANTORUM IN THE MARCH PRIMARY,
AND HAVE BEEN VOCAL ABOUT THEIR |
| 00:09:51 | CONCERNS ABOUT MITT ROMNEY'S
CONSERVATIVE CREDENTIALS. |
| 00:09:53 | THEIR BIGGEST ISSUES CONTINUE
TO BE GOVERNMENT SPENDING AND |
| 00:09:55 | DEBT, AND ORGANIZERS SAY IF THE
TEA PARTY APPEARS LESS ENERGIZED |
| 00:09:59 | AND ENTHUSIASTIC THIS YEAR,
IT'S ACTUALLY BECAUSE THEY'VE |
| 00:10:02 | MATURED AND ARE RESOLVED TOWARD
THEIR GOALS RATHER THAN JUST |
| 00:10:06 | EXCITED ABOUT THEM.
TOM ZAWISTOWSKI IS THE |
| 00:10:10 | PRESIDENT OF THE OHIO LIBERTY
COALITION, A UNIFIED GROUP OF 80 |
| 00:10:13 | OF THE 233 LIBERTY GROUPS
THROUGHOUT OHIO, AND HE ADMITS |
| 00:10:17 | THERE'S A WORRY THAT ANGRY TEA
PARTIERS MIGHT SIT OUT THE |
| 00:10:21 | ELECTION ENTIRELY.
>> IT CERTAINLY IS AN ISSUE |
| 00:10:23 | ONE OF THE THINGS WE HAVE
LEARNED IS WE DO NOT GET WHAT WE |
| 00:10:31 | WANT MOST OF THE TIME.
WE HAVE A LOT -- HAD A LOT OF |
| 00:10:35 | FRUSTRATION WITH THE WHOLE
PROCESS OF PARTICIPATING IN OUR |
| 00:10:38 | OWN SELF GOVERNANCE.
WE ARE STARTING TO GET |
| 00:10:42 | PERSPECTIVE, STARTING TO
UNDERSTAND THE PROCESS BETTER, |
| 00:10:45 | SO YOU ARE ALWAYS MAKING
DECISIONS, WHETHER IN THE |
| 00:10:48 | PRIMARY OR GENERAL ELECTION, NOT
JUST ABOUT WHAT YOU WANT, BUT |
| 00:10:52 | WHAT ARE THE CHOICES, WHO IS
BETTER FOR YOUR CAUSE AND THE |
| 00:10:56 | OTHER PERSON?
MITT ROMNEY, SURE, NO WHERE NEAR |
| 00:10:59 | AS CONSERVATIVE AS WE LIKE.
NO DOUBT ABOUT THAT. |
| 00:11:03 | BUT WE ALSO THINK THAT HE
UNDERSTANDS FINANCE, WE THINK |
| 00:11:07 | THAT THE UNDERSTANDS THE REAL
ISSUES WITH OUR NATION, WE THINK |
| 00:11:11 | HE KNOWS HOW TO CREATE AN
ENVIRONMENT WHERE PRIVATE |
| 00:11:14 | BUSINESS CAN CREATE JOBS, NOT
WHERE GOVERNMENT CREATES JOBS. |
| 00:11:17 | THOSE ARE ALL MESSAGES FOR US.
QUITE FRANKLY, IN THE FIRST |
| 00:11:21 | DEBATE, I WAS PRETTY PLEASED
WITH WHAT I WOULD CALL THE SHOUT |
| 00:11:25 | OUT THAT HE MADE TO OUR GROUPS,
WHICH THE PRESIDENT MADE ONE |
| 00:11:30 | MENTION OF THAT EXTREME GROUPS
AND THE REPUBLICAN PARTY. |
| 00:11:33 | ROMNEY TALKED ABOUT LIBERTY AND
THE 10TH AMENDMENT, STATES' |
| 00:11:36 | RIGHTS.
THOSE ARE THINGS YOU WANT TO |
| 00:11:39 | HEAR.
WE HAVE NO PROBLEM SUPPORTING |
| 00:11:41 | MITT ROMNEY.
WE FEEL HE IS THE RIGHT |
| 00:11:42 | CANDIDATE AT THIS TIME.
>> ZAWISTOWSKI ADMITS THERE'S |
| 00:11:46 | WHAT HE CALLS A "TENSION"
BETWEEN THE REPUBLICAN PARTY AND |
| 00:11:48 | TEA PARTIERS, AND SAYS THE TEA
PARTY FIGHTS FAR MORE OFTEN WITH |
| 00:11:50 | REPUBLICANS THAN IT DOES WITH
DEMOCRATS. |
| 00:11:51 | BUT HE SAYS THE TEA PARTY WILL
CONTINUE TO BATTLE FOR WHAT IT |
| 00:11:54 | CALLS "COMMON SENSE" WHEN IT
COMES TO GOVERNMENT SPENDING, |
| 00:11:57 | AND HE SAYS THERE'S NO DESIRE
TO COMPROMISE OVER THINGS THAT |
| 00:11:59 | HE SAYS AREN'T THAT RADICAL.
ZAWISTOWSKI SAYS TEA PARTIERS |
| 00:12:05 | ARE MOTIVATED AND ENGAGED FAR
BEYOND PEOPLE WHO CALL |
| 00:12:08 | THEMSELVES REPUBLICANS OR
DEMOCRATS. |
| 00:12:09 | >> I THINK WE'RE THE KEY
. |
| 00:12:18 | I KNOW WHAT WE ARE DOING.
I AM IN TOUCH WITH LIBERTY |
| 00:12:23 | GROUPS THROUGHOUT THE STATE ON
AN HOURLY BASIS. |
| 00:12:25 | OUR PEOPLE ARE ENGAGED.
THAT IS WITH THE TEA PARTY |
| 00:12:29 | MOVEMENT IS ABOUT.
WE ARE NOT A POLITICAL MOVEMENT. |
| 00:12:31 | WE ARE A CULTURAL MOVEMENT.
WE ARE ABOUT REDEFINING WHAT IT |
| 00:12:35 | NEEDS TO BE AN AMERICAN CITIZEN.
WHAT KIND OF INVOLVEMENT YOU |
| 00:12:40 | HAVE TO HAVE.
WHEN I GREW UP, I WAS TOLD, ALL |
| 00:12:42 | YOU NEED TO DO IS VOTE.
WE FOUND OUT THAT HAS NOT WORKED |
| 00:12:47 | OUT TOO WELL FOR US.
NOW WE'RE REDEFINING THAT AND |
| 00:12:49 | SAYING, IF YOU ARE SELF-
GOVERNING, YOU HAVE TO SHOW UP. |
| 00:12:52 | NOT ONLY DO WE HAVE TO FIND
CANDIDATES TO RUN AND SUPPORT |
| 00:12:56 | THEM AND GET THEM ELECTED, BUT
WHEN IT IS OVER, WE WILL BE |
| 00:13:01 | ENGAGED, WE ARE GOING TO SPEND A
LOT OF TIME IN COLUMBUS AND |
| 00:13:04 | WASHINGTON MAKING SURE THE
PEOPLE WHO REPRESENT US TRULY |
| 00:13:08 | REPRESENT OUR VIEWS.
SOME POLITICIANS REJECT THAT, |
| 00:13:11 | THEY DO NOT LIKE THAT A LOT.
SOME OF THE POLITICAL PUNDITS |
| 00:13:15 | AND ANALYSTS AND CONSULTANTS
SAY, THE TEA PARTY, THEY CANNOT |
| 00:13:19 | HAVE THAT BIG OF AN IMPACT.
2010, THEY GROSSLY |
| 00:13:23 | UNDERESTIMATED WHAT WE DID, ALL
RIGHT? |
| 00:13:26 | 2012, THEY ARE DOING IT AGAIN.
THEY CANNOT UNDERSTAND THE |
| 00:13:31 | PHENOMENON OF AMERICANS TAKING
THE DAY OFF FROM WORK ON THEIR |
| 00:13:34 | OWN TO WORK IN THE ELECTION
BECAUSE THEY LOVE THEIR COUNTRY. |
| 00:13:38 | THEY HAVE NEVER SEEN THAT
BEFORE. |
| 00:13:40 | THEY HAVE PAID MERCENARIES.
WE ARE NOT MERCENARIES, WE ARE |
| 00:13:45 | AMERICAN PATRIOTS, AND WE ARE
GOING TO MAKE THE DIFFERENCE IN |
| 00:13:48 | THIS ELECTION.
THEY'RE NOT. |
| 00:13:49 | >> ZAWISTOWSKI ADMITS THERE'S
WHAT HE CALLS A "TENSION" |
| 00:13:51 | BETWEEN THE REPUBLICAN PARTY AND
TEA PARTIERS, AND SAYS THE TEA |
| 00:13:53 | PARTY FIGHTS FAR MORE OFTEN WITH
REPUBLICANS THAN IT DOES WITH |
| 00:13:55 | DEMOCRATS.
BUT HE SAYS THE TEA PARTY WILL |
| 00:13:57 | CONTINUE TO BATTLE FOR WHAT IT
CALLS "COMMON SENSE" WHEN IT |
| 00:14:00 | COMES TO GOVERNMENT SPENDING.
AND THEN THERE'S THE GROUP OF |
| 00:14:03 | VOTERS THAT ALWAYS CLAIMS TO
HAVE ENOUGH MEMBERS TO SWING AN |
| 00:14:06 | ELECTION, BUT NEVER HAS.
MANY VOTERS WILL CLAIM THEY |
| 00:14:09 | LEAN LIBERTARIAN, BUT THE
LIBERTARIAN PARTY'S CANDIDATE |
| 00:14:12 | HASN'T BEEN ABLE TO BRING IN
MORE THAN A THIRD OF A PERCENT |
| 00:14:14 | OF THE VOTE IN OHIO IN THE LAST
THREE PRESIDENTIAL YEARS. |
| 00:14:18 | THE LIBERTARIAN CANDIDATE FOR
PRESIDENT, FORMER NEW MEXICO |
| 00:14:23 | GOV. GARY JOHNSON, IS ON THE
BALLOT IN OHIO, AND HAS VISITED |
| 00:14:26 | THE STATE SEVERAL TIMES THIS
YEAR. |
| 00:14:28 | I ASKED THE LPO'S
COMMUNICATIONS DIRECTOR AARON |
| 00:14:31 | KEITH HARRIS ABOUT THE PARTY AND
THE SPOILER FACTOR. |
| 00:14:33 | >> THAT'S A TERM - WHO THE
AMERICAN PEOPLE WANT TO VOTE FOR |
| 00:14:38 | WHO THEY WANT TO VOTE FOR.
YOU HAVE TO EARN THOSE. |
| 00:14:46 | >> WHAT ARE YOUR ISSUE WITH
ROMNEY? |
| 00:14:49 | >> ROMNEY AND THE REPUBLICANS
ARE NOT SERIOUS ABOUT BALANCING |
| 00:14:53 | THE BUDGET.
YOU LOOK AT THE SO-CALLED |
| 00:14:56 | BUDGET, IT IS VERY DRACONIAN,
DOES NOT EVEN TRY TO BALANCE FOR |
| 00:15:00 | 20 YEARS.
GARY JOHNSON WILL SUBMIT A |
| 00:15:03 | BALANCED BUDGET HIS FIRST YEAR.
HE WILL NOT GET IT, BUT WE WILL |
| 00:15:06 | START WITH THAT AS A NEGOTIATING
POSITION. |
| 00:15:09 | >> AND WHAT ABOUT MR. OBAMA?
>> A LOT OF PEOPLE MY AGE AND |
| 00:15:13 | YOUNGER WERE VERY HOPEFUL WITH
OBAMA COMING IN TRANSPORT -- |
| 00:15:17 | PROMISING TRANSPARENCY, AND
ADMINISTRATION FREE FROM THE |
| 00:15:21 | LOBBYISTS AND WALL STREET
INTERESTS, CIVIL LIBERTIES. |
| 00:15:25 | HE HAS BEEN HORRIBLE.
HE HAS BROKEN ALL THOSE |
| 00:15:28 | PROMISES AND A LOT OF PEOPLE MY
AGE AND YOUNGER ARE VERY |
| 00:15:30 | DISILLUSIONED AND WE ARE LOOKING
FOR SOMEBODY THAT WILL WILL KEEP |
| 00:15:34 | HIS PROMISES.
>> THERE ARE PLENTY OF |
| 00:15:36 | ALTERNATIVES ON THE BALLOT
BESIDES THE MAJOR PARTY |
| 00:15:38 | CANDIDATES - THERE ARE TEAMS
RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT AND VICE |
| 00:15:40 | PRESIDENT FROM THE CONSTITUTION
PARTY, THE GREEN PARTY, THE |
| 00:15:42 | SOCIALIST PARTY, AN INDEPENDENT
TICKET AND SEVERAL WRITE IN |
| 00:15:45 | CANDIDATES.
BUT IN THE PAST, NONE HAVE |
| 00:15:48 | PULLED MORE THAN A FEW THOUSAND
VOTES AWAY FROM THE MAJOR |
| 00:15:50 | PARTIES.
HARRIS SAYS THE DEMOCRATIC AND |
| 00:15:53 | REPUBLICAN PARTIES WANT TO KEEP
IT THAT WAY. |
| 00:15:56 | >> I THINK BOTH PARTIES ARE
REALLY GOOD AT KEEPING THEIR |
| 00:16:00 | POWER THROUGH FEAR
. |
| 00:16:05 | I HAVE TALKED TO SOME ELECTION
CONSULTANTS AT THIS STAGE. |
| 00:16:10 | WE ARE IN A OCTOBER.
ALL THE ADS ARE DESIGNED TO DO |
| 00:16:13 | TWO THINGS.
SCARE YOU INTO NONVOTING FOR THE |
| 00:16:16 | OTHER GUY OR TO DISCUSS YOU
ENOUGH -- DISCUSSED YOU ENOUGH |
| 00:16:20 | SO THAT YOU DO NOT VOTE.
WE SEE THAT ON TV AND PEOPLE ARE |
| 00:16:23 | FRUSTRATED.
PEOPLE WANT A POSITIVE |
| 00:16:26 | ALTERNATIVE, AND WHAT WE'RE
TRYING TO GIVE THEM. |
| 00:16:29 | >> HARRIS SAYS THE LPO HAS 20
CANDIDATES ON BALLOTS ACROSS |
| 00:16:31 | THE STATE.
BUT HE SAYS THE SYSTEM IS |
| 00:16:32 | STACKED AGAINST HIS PARTY,
WHICH HAS FOUGHT THREE COURT |
| 00:16:34 | CASES AGAINST THREE SECRETARIES
OF STATE OVER THE LANGUAGE THAT |
| 00:16:37 | DICTATES HOW PARTIES CAN GET ON
THE BALLOT. |
| 00:16:39 | THIS FALL, HARRIS SAYS HE'S
SEEN POLLS SUGGESTING THAT |
| 00:16:43 | LIBERTARIANS COULD GET 5-10
PERCENT OF THE VOTE, BUT HE'S |
| 00:16:47 | MORE CONSERVATIVE - GUESSING
THE LIBERTARIAN VOTE IN OHIO |
| 00:16:50 | WILL BE CLOSER TO 3 PERCENT,
WHICH WOULD STILL BE A BIG |
| 00:16:53 | NUMBER FOR THE PARTY.
NEXT WEEK THE PRESIDENTIAL |
| 00:16:58 | CANDIDATES WILL PAUSE IN THEIR
ALMOST NON-STOP STUMPING TO |
| 00:17:01 | TRAVEL TO DENVER FOR THEIR FIRST
OF THREE DEBATES. |
| 00:17:03 | OF COURSE, THE VICE
PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE WAS THIS |
| 00:17:07 | WEEK.
AND THEN ON MONDAY, THE FIRST |
| 00:17:08 | OF THREE DEBATES HERE IN OHIO
IN THE HOTLY CONTESTED US SENATE |
| 00:17:10 | RACE.
I'LL BE MODERATING THAT DEBATE |
| 00:17:12 | AT THE CITY CLUB OF CLEVELAND
FOR THE FIRST MEETING BETWEEN |
| 00:17:16 | DEMOCRATIC INCUMBENT SHERROD
BROWN AND REPUBLICAN STATE |
| 00:17:18 | TREASURER JOSH MANDEL.
LAST WEEK TWO LONGTIME |
| 00:17:22 | OPERATIVES WERE HERE TO TALK
ABOUT MESSAGING AND DEBATES. |
| 00:17:25 | I ASKED REPUBLICAN STRATEGIST
MARK WEAVER AND FRANKLIN COUNTY |
| 00:17:28 | DEMOCRATIC PARTY CHAIR GREG
HAAS FOR THEIR THOUGHTS ON THE |
| 00:17:31 | UPCOMING US SENATE DEBATES.
>> I WANT TO ASK MARK, WHAT IS |
| 00:17:38 | JOSH GRENDELL'S BIGGEST WEAKNESS
GOING INTO THE DEBATE? |
| 00:17:43 | >> MOST PEOPLE DO NOT KNOW WHO
HE IS, AND THAT IS A WEEK IS |
| 00:17:46 | BECAUSE SHARON BROWN IS A KNOWN
FIGURE. |
| 00:17:47 | HE HAS BEEN IN OHIO POLITICS AND
HAS BEEN AT GOVERNMENT LEVEL AT |
| 00:17:52 | SOME LEVEL SINCE COLOR
TELEVISION HAS BEEN THERE. |
| 00:17:56 | HE IS A KNOWN QUANTITY.
JON MANDEL IS NOT. |
| 00:18:00 | MOST PEOPLE JUST GOT TO KNOW HIM
WHEN HE RAN FOR TREASURER, NOW |
| 00:18:04 | GETTING TO KNOW HIM AS A SENATE
CANDIDATE. |
| 00:18:06 | >> HE WAS THE LARGEST VOTE
GETTER IN 2010 OTHER THAN CHIEF |
| 00:18:10 | JUSTICE O'CONNOR.
PEOPLE HAVE SEEN HIM ON THE |
| 00:18:12 | BALLOT.
>> THIS WILL BE A CLOSE RACE AND |
| 00:18:16 | IT WILL BE A HARD-FOUGHT DEBATE
WITH TWO VERY DIFFERENT STYLES. |
| 00:18:19 | SHERROD BROWN IS A CRAFTY,
COMBATIVE VETERAN. |
| 00:18:23 | JOSH MANDEL IS A NEW FACE
APPEARED HE WAS A MARINE, TOUGH |
| 00:18:27 | AS NAILS.
IT WILL BE AN INTERESTING |
| 00:18:30 | DEBATE.
>> WHAT IS SHERROD BROWN'S |
| 00:18:34 | BIGGEST DEBATE GOING INTO A
DEBATE? |
| 00:18:35 | >> ANY TIME YOU HAVE A LONG
RECORD OF ACHIEVEMENT, THAT |
| 00:18:40 | RECORD CAN BE ANALYZED FROM TENS
OF THOUSANDS OF VOTES. |
| 00:18:44 | THAT IS A PROBLEM FOR ANYONE
WITH EXPERIENCE, EVERY ONE THAT |
| 00:18:47 | HAS BEEN OUT THERE MAKING TOUGH
DECISIONS FOR A LONG TIME. |
| 00:18:51 | CERTAINLY, IT GIVES SOMEBODY
WITH NO RECORD OR A LIMITED |
| 00:18:56 | RECORD, HIGHLY SUSPECT.
OUTSIDE OF HIRING A BUNCH OF HIS |
| 00:19:01 | POLITICAL BODIES FOR JOBS THEY
HAD NO EXPERIENCE FOR, BASICALLY |
| 00:19:06 | HEADING OUT FOR THE TREASURER'S
OFFICE THE NEXT DAY, HE DOES NOT |
| 00:19:09 | HAVE A LONG RECORD.
I THINK, IN THE END, SHERROD'S |
| 00:19:16 | BIGGEST PROBLEM WILL BE TO NOT
LOOK LIKE HE IS PICKING ON JOSH |
| 00:19:20 | IN THE DEBATES.
I THINK IT WILL BE A VERY -- I |
| 00:19:28 | AGREE IN TERMS OF STYLE -- IT
WILL BE COMBATIVE. |
| 00:19:30 | OBVIOUSLY, JOSH HAS RUN A
CAMPAIGN WHERE YOU ATTACK A |
| 00:19:37 | PERSON'S PATRIOTISM BECAUSE YOU
DISAGREE WITH THEM, OR THOSE |
| 00:19:39 | KINDS OF THINGS.
I THINK HE AND SHERROD -- THERE |
| 00:19:48 | WILL BE SPARKS FLYING.
>> WE HEARD CHARGES OF CRONYISM, |
| 00:19:51 | NOT SHOWING UP FOR WORK,
OUTRIGHT LYING. |
| 00:19:54 | ONE OF THE NASTIEST RACES I CAN
REMEMBER, IF NOT THE NASTIEST. |
| 00:19:58 | CAN WE EXPECT IT TO GET WORSE?
>> PROBABLY NOT. |
| 00:20:03 | NEXT MONTH IS WHEN IT REALLY
COUNTS. |
| 00:20:06 | I THINK BOTH OF THESE CANDIDATES
FEEL PASSIONATE ABOUT THEIR SIDE |
| 00:20:09 | OF THINGS.
SHERROD BROWN HAS SAID SOME VERY |
| 00:20:13 | RESPONSIBLE THINGS, SUGGESTING
THAT SOMEONE WHO HAS SERVED TWO |
| 00:20:17 | TOURS IS NOT READY TO LEAD OHIO.
HE WILL HAVE TO ANSWER FOR THAT. |
| 00:20:23 | JON MANDEL IS NOT A CAREER
POLITICIAN. |
| 00:20:26 | HE IS A NEW PHASE.
IN A YEAR LIKE THIS WHERE PEOPLE |
| 00:20:30 | ARE ANGRY ABOUT THE STATUS QUO,
THAT IS A POSITIVE. |
| 00:20:32 | >> THE GUY WAS OUT OF COLLEGE
AND RUNNING FOR STATE |
| 00:20:38 | REPRESENTATIVE, HAS BEEN IN THE
ELECTED SERVICE THE VAST |
| 00:20:40 | MAJORITY OF HIS CAREER.
I THINK THE HEART OF IT -- WHAT |
| 00:20:49 | WE WILL SEE IN THE NEXT WEEK OR
TWO, IF THE POLLS CONTINUE THE |
| 00:20:53 | WAY THEY ARE -- JOSH MANDEL WILL
HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION. |
| 00:20:57 | HE IS NOT RUNNING WELL, AND I AM
SURE THEY SEE THAT IN THE POLLS. |
| 00:21:01 | THEY SEE THAT HIS NEGATIVES, FOR
SOMEONE WHO IS AS NEAR AS HE IS, |
| 00:21:07 | ARE TOO HIGH.
THE QUESTION THEY WILL MAKE SOON |
| 00:21:10 | IS ABOUT THE LONG TERM, ABOUT
THE FUTURE. |
| 00:21:13 | THEY WILL MAKE A DECISION ABOUT
SHIFTING TO A POSITIVE GEAR, |
| 00:21:19 | TRYING TO REDIRECT AND REFOCUS
WHO JOSH IS. |
| 00:21:23 | WE WILL FIND OUT IN THE NEXT
WEEK OR SO WHETHER OR NOT THEY |
| 00:21:28 | MAKE A SMART CALL AND SAY, WE
HAVE TO GET HIS POSITIVES UP, WE |
| 00:21:32 | HAVE TO REDEFINE JOSH AND THINK
ABOUT THE FUTURE. |
| 00:21:36 | >> DON'T NEGATIVE CAMPAIGNS
WORK? |
| 00:21:39 | I HEAR THAT OVER AND OVER.
OTHERWISE, WE WOULD NOT SEE SO |
| 00:21:42 | MUCH OF IT.
>> WHEN VOTERS HAVE INFORMATION |
| 00:21:46 | ABOUT A CANDIDATE, THEY ARE
LIKELY TO ACT ON IT. |
| 00:21:48 | FOR EXAMPLE, SHERROD BROWN HAS
BEEN ONE OF THE MOST LIBERAL |
| 00:21:53 | MEMBERS OF THE SENATE, WAS A
STRONG ADVOCATE FOR OBAMACARE. |
| 00:21:58 | THESE ARE THE SORTS OF THINGS
THAT ARE FACT-BASED. |
| 00:22:01 | VOTERS ARE ABOUT THEM AND THEY
GET ANGRY ABOUT THEM. |
| 00:22:06 | >> CERTAIN VOTERS.
OTHERS ARE FINE ABOUT IT. |
| 00:22:09 | >> WELL, THEY COULD GET ANGRY
ABOUT SOMETHING ON THE OTHER |
| 00:22:12 | SIDE.
EACH SIDE WILL ENHANCE WHAT THEY |
| 00:22:15 | THINK IS THE WEAK POINT OF THE
OTHER CANDIDATE. |
| 00:22:17 | >> WHENEVER YOU THROW OUT THESE
CLICHES, OBAMACARE, WHICH IS |
| 00:22:21 | REALLY ROMNEYCARE, WHICH IS
REALLY BOB DOLE CARE -- I WORKED |
| 00:22:30 | WITH HILLARY CLINTON IN 1993
WHEN IT WAS CONSIDERED A |
| 00:22:32 | MODERATE CONSERVATIVE SOLUTION
PUT FORWARD BY REPUBLICANS. |
| 00:22:35 | THE REALITY IS -- AND I THINK
MARK AND I TALKED ABOUT THIS IN |
| 00:22:40 | THE PAST AND HAVE AGREED.
THE DAY THAT DIRECT BENEFITS TO |
| 00:22:46 | NEGATIVE ADVERTISING IS COMING
TO AN END. |
| 00:22:48 | IT IS NOT WHAT IT USED TO BE.
I THINK AT SOME POINT WE WILL |
| 00:22:54 | SEE AN INVOLUTION AWAY FROM ITS
BECAUSE THE NUMBER OF TIMES IT |
| 00:23:00 | BACKFIRES COMPARED TO THE NUMBER
OF TIMES IT PAYS OFF ARE |
| 00:23:04 | DIFFERENT.
THE PROBLEM IS, YOU CANNOT |
| 00:23:09 | UNILATERALLY WITHDRAW FROM IT.
WE WILL SEE HOW IT CONTINUES TO |
| 00:23:13 | PLAY OUT.
I THINK NEGATIVE ADVERTISING |
| 00:23:17 | WORKS WITH A MUCH MORE NARROW
PERCENTAGE OF THE AUDIENCE THAN |
| 00:23:22 | IT USED TO.
IT USED TO WORK WITH 80% OF THE |
| 00:23:25 | ELECTORATE.
NOW THAT FIGURE IS FAR DOWN. |
| 00:23:27 | IT HAS MUCH MORE TO DO THAN
WITH INSPIRE YOUR BASE, MUCH |
| 00:23:32 | MORE TO DO WITH A SMALL UNIVERSE
OF PEOPLE. |
| 00:23:35 | AS FOR THE INTERNET AND OTHER
THINGS, THE DISSEMINATION OF |
| 00:23:41 | INFORMATION, I THINK TV
ADVERTISING WILL TAKE A |
| 00:23:44 | DIFFERENT TURN.
THE OBAMA CAMPAIGN DID THEIR |
| 00:23:49 | COMPARISON STUFF EARLY, THE
NUMBERS DID NOT REALLY MOVED. |
| 00:23:52 | WHEN THE OBAMA CAMPAIGN PUT ON
THE TWO DIRECT COMMERCIALS, |
| 00:24:00 | STARTED TALKING ABOUT MOVING
FORWARD, THE CAMPAIGN SHOT UP |
| 00:24:03 | AND WAS REDEFINED.
WHEN SHERROD BROWN WENT ON WITH |
| 00:24:08 | -- IN THE CRUISE AD -- WE SAW
HIS CAMPAIGN TAKE OFF. |
| 00:24:14 | POSITIVE WORKS.
I THINK PEOPLE ARE BECOMING |
| 00:24:17 | AWARE OF THAT.
>> FINAL THOUGHTS ON NEGATIVE |
| 00:24:20 | CAMPAIGNING?
>> I THINK IT IS HERE TO STAY, I |
| 00:24:24 | AGREE WITH SOME POINT, BUT I
THINK PEOPLE WILL ALWAYS VOTE |
| 00:24:27 | FOR POSITIVE AND NEGATIVE
REASONS. |
| 00:24:28 | >> THE FIRST DEBATE IS LIVE AT
12:30PM ON MONDAY AND WILL BE |
| 00:24:30 | PRODUCED BY IDEASTREAM/WVIZ IN
CLEVELAND, AND WILL AIR ON |
| 00:24:32 | PUBLIC TELEVISION STATIONS
THROUGHOUT THE STATE. |
| 00:24:33 | THE SECOND US SENATE DEBATE IS
SET FOR OCTOBER 18 IN COLUMBUS, |
| 00:24:37 | WITH THE FINAL DEBATE ON OCTOBER
25 IN CINCINNATI. |
| 00:24:39 | AND THAT'S IT FOR THIS WEEK.
FOR MY COLLEAGUES AT OHIO |
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