00:00:20AND FROM THE A-INDICATION
ASSOCIATION REPRESENTING 131,000
00:00:25TEACHERS, SUPPORT PROFESSIONALS,
AND HIRED EDUCATION FACULTY
00:00:29WORKING FOR GREAT PUBLIC SCHOOLS
FOR EVERY CHILD.
00:00:31OHEA.ORG.
ADDITIONAL SUPPORT IS MADE
00:00:36POSSIBLE BY THE LUBRISOL
FOUNDATION.
00:00:40>> IT'S MONTHS TILL THE FALL
VOTE, BUT IT WAS A BIG WEEK IN
00:00:45CAMPAIGNING IN OHIO, WITH A
PRESIDENTIAL CONTENDER AND A
00:00:47FORMER CANDIDATE FOR THE OVAL
OFFICE BOTH IN THE BUCKEYE
00:00:49STATE.
DEMOCRATS PUT FORWARD THEIR OWN
00:00:51BUDGET UPDATE PLAN TO COUNTER
THE GOVERNOR'S PROPOSAL.
00:00:53AND THERE'S A DEAL THAT'S BEEN
FLOATED ON THE GREAT LAKES
00:00:57COMPACT, BUT ENVIRONMENTALISTS
SAY THEY CAN'T GET ON BOARD.
00:01:00ALL THIS WEEK IN "THE STATE OF
OHIO."
00:01:02CAPTIONED BY THE
NATIONAL CAPTIONING INSTITUTE
00:01:06--WWW.NCICAP.ORG--
THIS WEEK BROUGHT THE FIRST OF
00:01:08MANY LIKELY EXECUTIONS IN OHIO
OVER THE NEXT 21 MONTHS.
00:01:10THIS WEEK 49-YEAR -OLD MARK
WILES OF PORTAGE COUNTY WAS
00:01:13EXECUTED BY LETHAL INJECTION
FOR STABBING TO DEATH 15-YEAR -
00:01:15OLD MARK KLIMA, THE SON OF HIS
FORMER EMPLOYER, IN 1985.
00:01:19WILES' EXECUTION MARKED THE END
OF AN INFORMAL MORATORIUM ON
00:01:26CARRYING OUT THE DEATH PENALTY
IN OHIO.
00:01:28QUESTIONS ABOUT INJECTION
PROTOCOL HAD LED TO A TEMPORARY
00:01:32STOP IN EXECUTIONS IN THE
STATE, BUT LAST WEEK THE FEDERAL
00:01:35JUDGE WHO HAD ISSUED THAT HALT
CLEARED THE WAY FOR WILES'
00:01:38EXECUTION BY SAYING HE NOW FEELS
THE STATE'S REVISED EXECUTION
00:01:41PROCESS -- QUOTING HERE -- "HAS
A CHANCE AT AVOIDING THE
00:01:44EMBARRASSMENTS IN WHICH OHIO HAS
ENGAGED IN THE PAST".
00:01:48THIS WAS THE 47TH EXECUTION
SINCE RESUMED PUTTING INMATES
00:01:52TO DEATH IN 1999.
THERE ARE 11 EXECUTIONS
00:01:58SCHEDULED BETWEEN NOW AND
JANUARY 2014 -- FOUR OF THEM
00:02:00SET FOR LATER THIS YEAR.
FOR WEEKS, LAWMAKERS HAVE BEEN
00:02:05TALKING ABOUT GOV. JOHN
KASICH'S BIG BUDGET UPDATE --
00:02:08THE MID-BIENNIUM REVIEW.
REPUBLICANS HAVE BEEN TINKERING
00:02:12WITH IT SINCE HE UNVEILED IT --
TAKING OUT THE SEVERANCE TAX
00:02:14THAT KASICH WANTED TO USE TO
FUND AN INCOME TAX CUT, AND
00:02:18THIS WEEK ADDING 46 AMENDMENTS,
INCLUDING ONE THAT MAKES BIG
00:02:23FUNDING CUTS TO THE 37 HEALTH
CENTERS OPERATED BY PLANNED
00:02:25PARENTHOOD.
THE BILL HAD TOPPED OUT AT MORE
00:02:28THAN 3800 PAGES.
NOW IT'S SLIMMED DOWN TO JUST
00:02:31UNDER 2400.
A FLOOR VOTE ON THE BUDGET
00:02:35REVIEW COULD COME IN TWO WEEKS.
AND NOW DEMOCRATS IN THE OHIO
00:02:39HOUSE HAVE COME UP WITH THEIR
OWN ADDITION TO THE BUDGET
00:02:44UPDATE.
THEY SAY CITIES AND SCHOOLS ARE
00:02:47SUFFERING FROM HUGE BUDGET CUTS
IN THE GOVERNOR'S SPENDING PLAN
00:02:49LAST YEAR, AND MINORITY LEADER
ARMOND BUDISH OF BEACHWOOD IN
00:02:52SUBURBAN CLEVELAND SAID IT'S
TIME FOR LAWMAKERS TO DO
00:02:55SOMETHING TO HELP.
>> CONTINUING TO STARVE SCHOOLS
00:02:56AND LOCAL COMMUNITIES
HERTZ MIDDLE-CLASS FAMILIES AND
00:03:03UNDERCUTS OUR ECONOMIC RECOVERY.
FAILING TO RESTORE EVEN SOME OF
00:03:08THE PREVIOUS BUDGET CUTS WILL
HURT OUR KIDS' EDUCATION,
00:03:14DIMINISH SAFETY SERVICES IN
LOCAL COMMUNITIES, AND CREATE
00:03:17MORE PRESSURE ON LOCAL PROPERTY
TAXPAYERS.
00:03:20>>THE DEMOCRATS SAY THAT SCHOOLS
STATEWIDE REPORT A POTENTIAL
00:03:22$1.79 BILLION DEFICIT IN FISCAL
YEAR 2014, AND THAT COMMUNITIES
00:03:25ARE LAYING OFF POLICE OFFICERS
AND FIREFIGHTERS, ARE
00:03:28PRIVATIZING EMS SERVICES AND
ARE EVEN TURNING OFF
00:03:30STREETLIGHTS TO SAVE MONEY.
MEANWHILE, THEY NOTE THE STATE
00:03:37IS RUNNING A $260 MILLION
SURPLUS, WITH $250 MILLION IN
00:03:40THE STATE'S RAINY DAY FUND.
AND WHILE THE SEVERANCE TAX WAS
00:03:44STRIPPED OUT BY REPUBLICAN
LAWMAKERS, THEY SAY THAT GOV.
00:03:48KASICH HAD PROJECTED IT COULD
BRING IN A BILLION DOLLARS.
00:03:50REP. JOHN CARNEY OF COLUMBUS
SAID THAT MONEY REPRESENTS
00:03:54OPPORTUNITIES FOR SCHOOLS AND
LOCAL GOVERNMENTS TO OFFSET THE
00:03:59PROPERTY TAXES THAT HAVE BEEN
RISING SINCE KASICH TOOK OFFICE.
00:04:02>> GOV. KASICH HAS PROPOSED A
MODEST INCREASE IN THE
00:04:05SEVERANCE TAX
ON THE OIL AND GAS INDUSTRY.
00:04:12HOWEVER, INSTEAD OF INVESTING IT
BACK IN SCHOOL THAT LOCAL
00:04:17COMMUNITIES, HE HAS PROPOSED A
SLIGHT REDUCTION IN THE STATE
00:04:20INCOME TAX.
IT IS ESTIMATED THIS INCOME TAX
00:04:23CUT WOULD AVERAGE OUT TO $21 PER
YEAR, UP 40 CENTS PER WEEK, FOR
00:04:29FAMILIES EARNING THE AVERAGE
INCOME IN OHIO OF ABOUT $47,000.
00:04:33THIS MEANS VERY LITTLE IF SAFETY
SERVICES IN YOUR COMMUNITY ARE
00:04:39BEING CUT, BUT TEACHERS TAKEN
OUT OF THE CLASSROOM SO YOUR
00:04:44KIDS DO NOT HAVE ACCESS TO
QUALITY EDUCATION, AND IT FOR
00:04:46PROPERTY TAXES ARE GOING UP.
>> THE DEMOCRATS ARE PROPOSING A
00:04:49$400 MILLION FUND THAT WOULD
DRAW $265 MILLION FROM SURPLUS
00:04:51REVENUE, $120 MILLION FROM THE
RAINY DAY FUND, AND $15 MILLION
00:04:56FROM PROPOSED SEVERANCE TAX
INCREASE.
00:04:58THE FUND WOULD BE AVAILABLE AS
EARLY AS JULY 2013 WHEN THE
00:05:06CURRENT FISCAL YEAR ENDS, AND
WOULD BE AVAILABLE TO SCHOOLS
00:05:09AND COMMUNITIES BY GRANT AND
THROUGH APPLICATIONS.
00:05:11AND THEY'D MAKE A SPECIAL
PROVISION TO ALLOW MORE MONEY
00:05:14FOR COMMUNITIES MOST AFFECTED
BY OIL AND NATURAL GAS DRILLING
00:05:17AND FRACKING.
REP. MATT LUNDY OF ELYRIA
00:05:20SEEMED FRUSTRATED, BEMOANING THE
NEED FOR THIS PROPOSAL IN THE
00:05:22FIRST PLACE.
>> YOU KNOW, WHEN SOMEBODY PICKS
00:05:29UP THE PHONE AT 2:00 IN THE
MORNING
00:05:30THEY DO NOT ASK IF THEY'RE GOING
TO SEND OVER A DEMOCRATIC OR
00:05:38REPUBLICAN POLICE OFFICER.
THEY JUST WANT THEM TO BE THERE.
00:05:40UNFORTUNATELY, NOW A LOT OF
RESIDENTS ARE CONCERNED THAT
00:05:44THEY MAKE THE CALL AND IT WILL
BE A LONG TIME FOR HELP IS ON
00:05:47THE WAY.
WE NEED TO STOP GIVING
00:05:50PRIORITIES -- WE NEED TO START
GIVING PRIORITY TO THE LOCAL
00:05:55GOVERNMENTS AND SCHOOLS.
>> THE DEMOCRATS SAY THEY'LL
00:05:57PROPOSE THIS AS AN AMENDMENT TO
THE BUDGET UPDATE, BUT
00:05:59REPUBLICANS ARE VERY UNLIKELY TO
GIVE IT ANY CONSIDERATION.
00:06:01REP. BARBARA SEARS OF SYLVANIA
IN NORTHWEST OHIO SAYS SCHOOLS
00:06:02AND LOCAL GOVERNMENTS ARE JUST
ONE AREA THAT TOOK BIG CUTS.
00:06:05>> IF I TOOK EVERY BIT OF THAT
RAINY DAY FUND AND I DID
00:06:10NOTHING BUT GIVE IT TO THE
POLICE OR THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS,
00:06:13WHAT DO I THEN SAY TO THE
SKILLED NURSING FACILITIES?
00:06:16WHAT DO I THEN SAY TO THE
PRIMARY CARE PHYSICIANS?
00:06:18WHAT DO I THEN SAY TO THE
CHILDREN'S HOSPITALS, AND THE
00:06:22FOOD BANKS?
>> REP. JOHN ADAMS OF SIDNEY IN
00:06:25WEST CENTRAL OHIO CALLED THE
IDEA -- QUOTING HERE --
00:06:28"SILLY".AND HE SAID THAT HE
WOULDN'T SUPPORT PUTTING MORE
00:06:32MONEY INTO THE HANDS OF
GOVERNMENTS WHICH HE SAYS HAVE A
00:06:33"LOUSY" TRACK RECORD OF TAKING
TAXPAYER MONEY AND -- AGAIN
00:06:36QUOTING -- "JUST BLOWING IT".
>> I HAVE A SHERIFF IN SHELBY
00:06:43COUNTY WHO SAYS HE'S OPERATING
AT 2001 FUNDING LEVELS AND HE'S
00:06:49DOING JUST FINE.
WHEN EVERYBODY CAN SAY THEY CAN
00:06:53OPERATE AT 2001 SPENDING LEVELS
AND SAY THEY'RE DOING JUST
00:06:55FINE, THEN IT TELLS ME THAT THEY
WERE WASTING AN AWFUL LOT OF
00:06:59MONEY BETWEEN 2001 AND 2012.
>> REPUBLICANS CONTINUE TO
00:07:03MAINTAIN THAT HOLDING DOWN TAXES
WILL MAKE OHIO MORE COMPETITIVE
00:07:05AND MORE ATTRACTIVE TO
BUSINESSES.
00:07:07BUT DEMOCRATS SAY THE STATE IS
PLAYING A SHELL GAME BY
00:07:11REDUCING SPENDING AND TAXES,
WHICH IS FORCING TAX INCREASES
00:07:13AT THE LOCAL LEVEL -- WHAT ONE
DEMOCRATIC LAWMAKER CALLED
00:07:18"TRICKLE-DOWN TAXATION".
GOV. KASICH HAD SPLIT WITH
00:07:22MEMBERS OF HIS OWN PARTY IN THE
LEGISLATURE OVER ONE OF THE
00:07:25FINAL STEPS IN THE GREAT LAKES
COMPACT, THE AGREEMENT SIGNED
00:07:27IN 2005 BY EIGHT STATES AND TWO
CANADIAN PROVINCES TO BAN
00:07:32DIVERSION OF WATER OUTSIDE THE
REGION EXCEPT WHEN APPROVED BY
00:07:35AREA OFFICIALS.
OHIO IS STILL WORKING ON
00:07:41LEGISLATION TO ENACT THE
COMPACT WITHIN THE STATE.
00:07:44THE VERSION LAWMAKERS CAME UP
WITH LAST YEAR GOT GOV.
00:07:47KASICH'S ONLY VETO SO FAR IN
OFFICE.
00:07:49NOW KASICH AND THE BILL'S
SPONSOR IN THE HOUSE, REP. LYNN
00:07:53WACHTMANN OF NAPOLEON IN
NORTHWEST OHIO, HAVE COME TO A
00:07:55DEAL.
THE NEW BILL CUTS THE LIMITS ON
00:07:59WATER WITHDRAWALS FROM FIVE
MILLION GALLONS OF WATER EACH
00:08:01DAY WITHOUT A PERMIT BY HALF OR
MORE.
00:08:04AND IT SETS UP AN ADVISORY BOARD
TO DECIDE WHEN A BUSINESS, FARM
00:08:08OR OTHER ENTITY HAS TAKEN TOO
MUCH WATER.
00:08:10AND AN ODNR SPOKESMAN SAYS IT
PUTS INTO PLACE MONITORING
00:08:15DEVICES TO LET OFFICIALS KNOW
WHEN THERE'S A NEGATIVE IMPACT
00:08:19ON TRIBUTARIES AND STREAMS.
AND IT ALSO SETS UP A SYSTEM
00:08:22FOR PERMITS FOR THOSE WHO WANT
TO WITHDRAW WATER FROM STREAMS
00:08:25THAT FEED INTO LAKE ERIE, WITH
PERMITS BASED ON THE AVERAGE
00:08:30AMOUNT OF WATER WITHDRAWN OVER
A CERTAIN TIME PERIOD, RATHER
00:08:34THAN A DAILY LIMIT.
ENVIRONMENTALISTS SAY THEY HAVE
00:08:37THREE PROBLEMS WITH THE DEAL.
OFFTHEY'RE CONCERNED THAT BIG
00:08:41WITHDRAWALS FROM TRIBUTARIES
COULD REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF
00:08:43WATER IN THE LAKE, LOWERING THE
QUALITY OF WATER AND RAISING
00:08:47THE POTENTIAL FOR TOXINS AND
ALGAE BLOOMS.
00:08:52THEY'RE WORRIED THAT WITHDRAWALS
FROM TRIBUTARIES COULD DRY UP
00:08:54SPAWNING GROUNDS FOR WALLEYE,
STEELHEAD AND OTHER LAKE ERIE
00:08:56FISH.
AND THEY FEAR THAT THE DEAL'S
00:08:59LIMITS ON WHO CAN APPEAL
PERMITTING DECISIONS WILL CUT
00:09:01OUT AGGRIEVED MEMBERS OF THE
PUBLIC.
00:09:03ENVIRONMENTAL COUNCIL.
>> THE BILL SAYS WE SHALL
00:09:08CONSIDER, WELL
PROPOSED USE, WITH A DRAWL,
00:09:13CONSUMPTIVE USE THEM AND HAVE A
SIGNIFICANT IMPACT ON LAKE ERIE
00:09:18AS A WHOLE.
THAT'S ALL RIGHT, BUT IT
00:09:22IGNORES AND REPEAL THE EXISTING
LAW THING WE SHOULD CONSIDER
00:09:24THAT IT WILL HAVE A NEGATIVE
IMPACT ON THE SOURCE OF THE
00:09:28WATER THAT IS A GROUNDWATER OR
STREAM THAT WILL BE TAKEN OUT.
00:09:32WE'RE TALKING NOT JUST ABOVE THE
WATER IN THE LAKE AND THE USE OF
00:09:36THE WATER WITH A DRAWL, BUT ALSO
THE USE OF A DRAWL WATER --
00:09:42WITHDRAWL WATE THAT IS FED BY
THE BLACK RIVER AND A NUMBER OF
00:09:53RIVERS AND SMALL INLAND LAKES
AND GROUNDWATER.
00:09:57WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THOSE, TOO.
THAT WAS RECOGNIZED IT YEARS AGO
00:10:02WHEN THE FIRST LEGISLATURE
PASSED LEGISLATION AND GETTING
00:10:06TWO TO PASS THIS LEGISLATION
THAT WAS UNDER SPEAKER HOUSTON
00:10:12IN THE HOUSE.
IT STRUCK A GOOD COMPROMISE WITH
00:10:15BUSINESSES AND INTERESTS.
THIS TEARS THAT ASUNDER AND ONLY
00:10:19ONCE TO LOOK AT IMPACTS ON LAKE
ERIE AS A WHOLE.
00:10:22>> MEANWHILE, A DEMOCRATIC
LAWMAKER HAS PROPOSED HIS OWN
00:10:27GREAT LAKES COMPACT
IMPLEMENTATION BILL.
00:10:29THE MEASURE FROM REP. DENNIS --
THAT YOU'RE USING SCARE TACTICS.
00:10:38>> OHIO STATE, KENT STATE, AND
THE U.S. GEOLOGICAL SURVEY
00:10:48PANEL SAID EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE
SAYING WITH REGARDS TO THE
00:10:53SUMMARY.
THIS DOES NOT GIVE ENOUGH
00:10:56PROTECTION TO THE TRIBUTARIES.
IT RUNS THE RISK OF
00:10:59CONCENTRATING NUTRIENTS.
IT RUNS THE RISK OF A DRYING OUT
00:11:04SOME OF THE SUMMER RIVERS.
WHERE DID WE GET OUR AN
00:11:08AFFIRMATION?
WE GET IT FROM THE SCIENTISTS TO
00:11:10OUR OBJECTIVE AND HAVE NO AXE TO
GRIND, HAVE NO ECONOMIC
00:11:15INTEREST, JUST THE FACTS.
THAT IS WHAT THEY ARE GIVING US,
00:11:18THEIR BEST ADVICE.
STANLEY, THOUGH THE BILL HAS
00:11:23MADE A LOT OF PROGRESS AND THE
REPRESENTATIVE DESERVES A LOT
00:11:27OF PRAISE.
HE WANTS TO PROTECT THE LAKE,
00:11:34BUT IT IS NOT DOING ENOUGH TO
ALSO PROTECT THE STREAMS,
00:11:39RIVERS, AND GROUNDWATER THAT
FEEDS IT.
00:11:41>> WHAT IS THE TIMELINE THAT?
BY WHEN DOES OHIO HAVE TO HAVE
00:11:46IS SOMETHING IN PLACE TO STAY
INVOLVED AT?
00:11:50>> WE CAN TAKE OUR TIME AND GET
THIS RIGHT.
00:11:53IT IS NOT UNTIL THE END OF NEXT
YEAR THAT THE DEFAULT LEVELS OF
00:12:01DAILY WATER WITHDRAWAL LOADS
WOULD TAKE EFFECT.
00:12:05THERE IS NO URGENCY.
WE DO NOT HAVE TO WRAP THIS UP
00:12:09THIS SPRING.
WE CAN TAKE OUR TIME TO GET THIS
00:12:11RIGHT.
THERE HAVE BEEN YEARS AND YEARS
00:12:14OF DEBATE ON THIS ISSUE.
THE ISSUES HAVE ALWAYS BEEN A
00:12:18CONTENTIOUS BETWEEN THE BUSINESS
INTERESTS, SPORTSMEN,
00:12:22ENVIRONMENTAL INTERESTS.
IT IS SAD WE HAVE NOT RESOLVE
00:12:25THEM, BUT THERE IS NO FEELING
THAT THIS HAS TO BE SETTLED
00:12:29TODAY.
WE CAN COME BACK ANOTHER DAY TO
00:12:32GET IT RIGHT.
LET'S NOT RUN THE RISK OF GOING
00:12:35FROM THE WALL LIKE CAPITAL OF
THE WORLD TO GO TO THE WALL LIKE
00:12:44CAPITAL OF SANDUSKY.
WE MUST DO BETTER.
00:12:45THE WAY THE BILL IS STRUCTURED
RIGHT NOW, SCIENTISTS SAY IT
00:12:49DOES NOT GIVE ENOUGH
CONSIDERATION TO INLAND STREAMS
00:12:53AND WE RUN A REAL RISK OF
THREATENING SPAWNING GROUNDS.
00:12:58>> MEANWHILE, A DEMOCRATIC
LAWMAKER HAS PROPOSED HIS OWN
00:13:04GREAT LAKES COMPACT
IMPLEMENTATION BILL.
00:13:06THE MEASURE FROM REPRESENTATIVE
DENNIS MURRAY OF SANDUSKY
00:13:08REQUIRES REGULATORY SYSTEMS TO
ENSURE THAT WITHDRAWAL DOESN'T
00:13:11NEGATIVELY AFFECT WATER QUALITY
IN LAKES, STREAMS, RIVERS AND
00:13:13GROUNDWATER.
AND MURRAY SAYS HIS BILL WOULD
00:13:14USE A SHORTER TIME AVERAGE TO
MEASURE THE IMPACT.
00:13:15THE FALL VOTE IS MONTHS AWAY,
BUT IT'S CLEAR THAT OHIO WILL
00:13:20ONCE AGAIN PLAY A CRITICAL ROLE
IN DECIDING WHETHER PRESIDENT
00:13:22BARACK OBAMA WILL BE RE-
ELECTED, OR WHETHER PRESUMPTIVE
00:13:26REPUBLICAN NOMINEE MITT ROMNEY
WILL GO TO THE WHITE HOUSE.
00:13:28PRESIDENT OBAMA TRAVELED TO
LORAIN COUNTY COMMUNITY COLLEGE
00:13:36THIS WEEK TO TALK UP JOB
TRAINING PROGRAMS AND TO ACCUSE
00:13:42HIS REPUBLICAN RIVALS OF TRYING
TO REVIVE TRICKLE-DOWN
00:13:44ECONOMICS INSTEAD OF SPENDING
MONEY ON PRIORITIES TO HELP THE
00:13:47MIDDLE CLASS.
IT'S THE PRESIDENT'S FOURTH
00:13:52VISIT TO OHIO JUST THIS YEAR.
THE NEXT DAY, ROMNEY WAS VERY
00:13:55CLOSE BY -- AT A CLOSED-DOWN
GYPSUM PLANT IN LORAIN THAT
00:13:57SERVED AS A CAMPAIGN STOP FOR
OBAMA IN 2008.
00:13:59ROMNEY SAID THE PRESIDENT'S
ECONOMIC POLICIES HAVE LED TO
00:14:04MORE REGULATION WHICH STIFLED
GROWTH AND JOB CREATION.
00:14:05AND THIS WEEK, GOV. KASICH
ENDORSED ROMNEY FOR PRESIDENT,
00:14:10ALONG WITH HIS LIEUTENANT
GOVERNOR MARY TAYLOR.
00:14:12THE DECISION COMES DAYS AFTER
KASICH ALLIES TOOK CONTROL OF
00:14:17THE OHIO REPUBLICAN PARTY,
WHICH CAN RAISE MONEY AND
00:14:19RECRUIT VOLUNTEERS ACROSS THE
STATE.
00:14:20AFTER FALSE STARTS BACKING
FORMER MISSISSIPPI GOV. HALEY
00:14:25BARBOUR AND NEW JERSEY GOV.
CHRIS CHRISTIE, KASICH REMAINED
00:14:28NEUTRAL IN THE REPUBLICAN
PRIMARIES.
00:14:30HE HAD RELATIONSHIPS FROM HIS
CONGRESSIONAL DAYS WITH AT LEAST
00:14:34TWO OTHER PRESIDENTIAL
HOPEFULS, RICK SANTORUM AND NEWT
00:14:36GINGRICH. KASICH RAN BRIEFLY FOR
PRESIDENT IN 2000.
00:14:39TURNING NOW TO THE OTHER
FEDERAL RACE ON THE OHIO BALLOT.
00:14:43SINCE JOSH MANDEL WON THE
REPUBLICAN PRIMARY FOR U.S.
00:14:47SENATE IN MARCH, THE REPUBLICAN
STATE TREASURER HAS BROUGHT IN
00:14:50SOME TOP NAMES IN GOP POLITICS.
THIS WEEK HE BROUGHT IN TWO BIG
00:14:55GUNS -- INCLUDING A MAN WHO
GETS A LOT OF RESPECT, BUT ALSO
00:14:57A LOT OF CRITICISM, FROM
REPUBLICAN VOTERS.
00:15:00REPUBLICAN U.S. SEN. JOHN MCCAIN
SPOKE FOR ONLY ABOUT 10
00:15:04MINUTES, BUT IT WAS CLEAR THAT
HE WAS THE STAR OF MANDEL'S
00:15:09EVENT AT A VFW HALL IN HILLIARD
WEST OF COLUMBUS.
00:15:11THE TREASURER INTRODUCED THE EX-
PRISONER OF WAR IN VIETNAM AND
00:15:17FORMER CANDIDATE FOR PRESIDENT,
NOW IN HIS FIFTH TERM IN THE
00:15:19SENATE.
MCCAIN HAS BEEN CRITICIZED OVER
00:15:23THE YEARS -- INCLUDING WHEN HE
WAS RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT IN
00:15:262008 -- AS BEING TOO MODERATE,
AND NOT BEING CONSERVATIVE
00:15:28ENOUGH.
AND MANDEL HAS BEEN TOUTING
00:15:32HIMSELF AS A STRONG
CONSERVATIVE.
00:15:33I TALKED SEN. MCCAIN AND
TREASURER MANDEL ABOUT THAT AND
00:15:34OTHER ISSUES IN THE CAMPAIGN.
>> AT JOSH, YOUR RELATIVELY LOW
00:15:44IN ELECTED POLITICS.
YOU WERE ELECTED TO CITY COUNCIL
00:15:48IN 2003.
YOU HAVE BEEN IN ELECTED
00:15:54POLITICS FOR LESS THAN 10 YEARS.
HOW ARE YOU GETTING PEOPLE OF
00:15:56THE CALIBER OF SENATOR MCCAIN,
GOV. CHRIS CHRISTIE, SENATOR
00:16:02RUBIO TO CAMPAIGN FOR YOU?
>> YOU HAVE HEROES LIKE THIS
00:16:08THAT ARE SO GENUINELY CONCERNED,
THEY UNDERSTAND THE IMPORTANCE
00:16:10OF OHIO.
THEY UNDERSTAND BETTER DIRECTION
00:16:15FOR OUR COUNTRY AND THIS
CAMPAIGN IS ABOUT THE PAST
00:16:19VERSUS THE FUTURE.
>> SENATOR MCCAIN, DOES JOSH'S
00:16:24"NEWNESS" CONCERN YOU?
>> HIS MILITARY BACKGROUND IS
00:16:31VERY MATURING.
HE SERVED IN THE STATE
00:16:34LEGISLATURE AND THAT IS ALSO
VERY IMPORTANT.
00:16:37ALSO, THE PEOPLE LIKE ME SHOULD
DO AS MUCH TO HELP THE NEW
00:16:42GENERATION OF LEADERS.
I THINK HE IS HIGHLY QUALIFIED.
00:16:44SOME OF US WHO ARE MAYBE NOT AT
THE BEGINNING OF OUR CAREERS,
00:16:51SHALL WE SAY, WHAT TO DO EVERY
THING WE CAN TO ELECT A NEW
00:16:56GENERATION.
>> YOU BUILT THEIR REPUTATION IN
00:17:00THE SENATE AS A DEALMAKER.
I AM THINKING OF THE GANG OF 14
00:17:07IN 2005 WITH THE JUDICIAL
APPOINTMENTS.
00:17:09SOME OF YOU -- SOME OF VIEW YOU
AS MORE OF A MODERATE.
00:17:13MANDEL IS CARVING OUT A
REPUTATION AS A STRONG
00:17:21CONSERVATIVE.
IS A STRONG CONSERVATIVE WHAT IS
00:17:23NEEDED OR A DEAL MAKER?
>> WE NEED A PERSON THAT
00:17:28UNDERSTANDS NATIONAL SECURITY
AND, AS TREASURER, IT
00:17:34UNDERSTANDS JOBS AND THE
ECONOMY.
00:17:36I ALSO STRONG HIM AS A STRONG
PARTNER FOR A PERSON THAT
00:17:43INJURIES GREATER APPROVAL HERE
IN OHIO.
00:17:45THAT IS THE MODERATE WE'RE
LOOKING AT.
00:17:48>> LET ME ASK YOU ABOUT THE IDEA
OF CROSSING THE AISLE.
00:17:51IS THAT SOMETHING YOU MIGHT BE
DOING?
00:17:55DO YOU THINK YOUR VOTERS WANT
THAT?
00:17:56TO HAVE BEEN TARGETING THE TEA
PARTY VOTERS.
00:17:59>> THERE WAS A TWO TO ONE
DEMOCRAT TO REPUBLICAN VOTERS.
00:18:08IT WAS TOLD THAT WOULD BE
IMPOSSIBLE FOR ME TO GET
00:18:17ELECTED.
I WAS ELECTED WITH A STRONG MIX
00:18:20OF DEMOCRATS, REPUBLICANS, AND
INDEPENDENTS.
00:18:24THE REPLIES AS MANY DEMOCRATS
THAN REPUBLICANS AND THEY
00:18:27REELECTED ME.
WE WERE THE STOCK -- THE TOP OF
00:18:35VOTE GETTERS.
WE HAD A STRONG MIX OF ALL THREE
00:18:38AND THAT IS WHAT PEOPLE WANT IN
WASHINGTON.
00:18:40LEADERS THAT WILL STAND ON
PRINCIPLE AND MOVE THE BALL DOWN
00:18:44THE FIELD ECONOMICALLY IN A WAY
WITH COURAGE AND CONVICTION.
00:18:47THE DAY THAT I GO TO WASHINGTON
AND SOME PARTY CHAIRMAN OR
00:18:54LEADER PUT HIS HAND ON MY
SHOULDER AND SAYS, "YOU NEED TO
00:18:58VOTE THIS WAY ARE WE WILL KICK
YOU OFF OF THIS COMMITTEE OR
00:19:03EMBARRASS YOU IN THE MEDIA," I
WILL TELL THEM THEY'RE NOT MY
00:19:08BOSS.
MY BOSSES THE 11.5 MILLION
00:19:15PEOPLE IN OHIO.
>> DO YOU THINK THIS WOULD GIVE
00:19:19RID OF SOME OF THE GRIDLOCK?
>> YES, I DO, BUT IF YOU HAVE A
00:19:24PRESIDENT WHO IS CAMPAIGNING ON
THE "BUFEFTT RULE" AND CLASS
00:19:31WARFARE RATHER THAN SITTING
DOWN THE WAY THAT CLINTON DID
00:19:37WHEN THE REPUBLICANS GAINED A
MAJORITY IN THE HOUSE AND
00:19:39SENATE, THEN IT IS VERY HARD TO
DO.
00:19:41I HAVE MADE A LOT OF DEALS IN
THE UNITED STATES CONGRESS, BUT
00:19:47THIS ADMINISTRATION WILL NOT
EVEN SIT DOWN AND TALK TO WAS.
00:19:50THAT IS A FACT.
>> -HAS GOTTEN A LOT OF GOOD
00:19:56NATIONAL PUBLICITY BUT HE AS
ALSO GOTTEN SOME NEGATIVE
00:20:01GROUPS.
POLITIFACT IS BEING NEGATIVE
00:20:07SAYING HE IS OUT QUITE RIGHT
ABOUT -- OUTRIGHT LYING ABOTU
00:20:14SHERROD BROWN.
>> IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO SAY
00:20:22EXACTLY HOW LIBERAL HE IS.
HIS RANKINGS ABOUT OBJECTIVE
00:20:29ORGANIZATION SHOWS HE IS ONE OF
THE MOST LIBERAL MEMBERS IN THE
00:20:31SENATE.
>> THERE ARE UNTRUTHS BEING
00:20:37TOLD.
DOES THAT CONCERN YOU?
00:20:40>> IT DEPENDS ON WHO IS CALLING
THEM THAT.
00:20:44I WOULD HAVE TO LOOK AT THEM
MYSELF.
00:20:46HE IS RUNNING AGAINST ONE OF THE
MOST LIBERAL MEMBERS OF THE
00:20:49SENATE.
>> YOU HAVE ALSO POINTED THEM
00:20:52OUT WHEN THEY SAY THINGS ABOUT
BROWN THAT ARE NEGATIVE, BUT
00:20:56WHEN YOU ARE CALLED OUT AS
BEING NEGATIVE AND "HANDS-ON
00:21:01BUYER," THE YOU HAVE TO ACTUALLY
LOOK AT WHO IS DOING THE FACT
00:21:04CHECKING.
-- AND "PANTS ON FIRE" THAT YOU
00:21:08NEED TO CHECK.
>> THEY'RE USING TO BLOCK
00:21:15EXPLORATION OF OIL AND GAS WITH
THE ENVIRONMENTALISTS.
00:21:19E REPORTED THAT ON YOUR OWN
CHANNEL.
00:21:22IF SOME OTHER FACT CHECKING
ORGANIZATION WANTS TO DENY
00:21:28REALITY, THAT IS A DEROGATIVE.
I BELIEVE IT WAS YOU OR YOUR
00:21:34COLLEAGUE JOE THAT DID THE
INTERVIEW.
00:21:35SHERROD BROWN'S POLICY OF
OVERREGULATION ARE KILLING
00:21:42MANUFACTURERS IN THIS STATE.
OVER THE LAST DECADE WE HAVE
00:21:46LOST OVER 500,000 JOBS AND 3500
FACTORIES.
00:21:51THAT IS UNACCEPTABLE.
A LOT OF THEM HAVE GONE TO
00:21:55PLACES LIKE CHINA, INDIA, MEXICO
AND HE IS ONE OF THE MAIN
00:21:59POLITICIANS' RESPONSE WILL BORE
THOSE PROPERTIES TO SEND JOBS
00:22:02AWAY FROM OUR STATE AND COUNTRY.
THOSE ARE FACTS.
00:22:06IF THEY BIASED MEDIA
ORGANIZATION WANTS TO DISAGREE,
00:22:11THAT IS THEIR PREROGATIVE, BUT
THE FACTS ARE ON OUR SIDE IN WE
00:22:14WILL CONTINUE TO TELL THAT A
GOOD MIX OF DEMOCRATS,
00:22:19REPUBLICANS, AND INDEPENDENTS
WILL CONTINUE TO SUPPORT US.
00:22:21>> TWO QUICK QUESTIONS.
YOU WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE ROMNEY
00:22:26PICK AS A VICE-PRESIDENTIAL
CANDIDATE?
00:22:29GOV. CHRIS CHRISTIE, SENATOR
RUBIO, YOU?
00:22:32>> I THINK ROB PORTMAN NEEDS TO
BE ONE OF THE TOP CONTENDERS.
00:22:38HE IS AN INCREDIBLE FORCE ON THE
ECONOMY AND ON BUDGETARY ISSUES.
00:22:46THERE IS NO ONE HAS QUALIFIED AS
HIM UNLESS IT IS PAUL RYAN.
00:22:48HE WILL ABSOLUTELY BE IN THE TOP
TIER.
00:22:51>> WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE
CAMPAIGN AND THE FIELD THAT HAS
00:22:55BEEN CALLED ONE OF THE WEAKEST
IN HISTORY, DO YOU EVER WISH YOU
00:23:00HAVE MADE THE DECISION TO JUMP
IN?
00:23:04>> I THINK I HAVE HAD MY TURN.
THE MASOCHISM RUNS IN MY FAMILY,
00:23:10BUT NOT AS STRONG AS YOU MIGHT
THINK.
00:23:13I AM HAPPY WITH THE CAMPAIGN WE
RAN IN 2008.
00:23:19WHAT I WANT TO DO IS THE BOAT MY
ENERGY TO ELECTING MITT ROMNEY
00:23:26AND THIS NEXT GENERATION.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
00:23:29TRAVELED TO NORTHEAST OHIO TO
STUMP WITH ANOTHER LIKELY V.P.
00:23:33CONTENDER -- NEW JERSEY GOV.
CHRIS CHRISTIE.
00:23:36MANDEL APPEARED LAST MONTH WITH
STILL ANOTHER POSSIBLE VP
00:23:38FRONTRUNNER, FLORIDA SEN. MARCO
RUBIO.
00:23:40BOTH ARE CONSIDERED RISING
STARS IN THE GOP AND ARE
00:23:44FAVORITES OF TEA PARTY VOTERS AS
WELL.
00:23:46THE DUAL CAMPAIGN APPEARANCES
THIS WEEK WITH MCCAIN AND
00:23:50CHRISTIE DIDN'T GO UNNOTICED BY
THE CAMPAIGN OF INCUMBENT
00:23:53DEMOCRATIC SENATOR SHERROD
BROWN.
00:23:55A SPOKESMAN BLASTED MANDEL FOR
HIS POLICIES ON TAX CUTS AND
00:24:00THE ECONOMY AND FOR RECENT
STORIES ABOUT MANDEL HIRING
00:24:02FRIENDS WITH LITTLE EXPERIENCE
INTO THE TREASURER'S OFFICE IN A
00:24:05STATEMENT:
>> JOSH MANDEL CAN IGNORE HIS
00:24:08JOB AND THROW AS MANY VIP
FUNDRAISERS AS HE WANTS, BUT IT
00:24:11DOESN'T CHANGE THE FACT THAT HE
SURROUNDED HIMSELF WITH
00:24:15POLITICAL CRONIES IN THE
TREASURER'S OFFICE, CAN'T BE
00:24:19TRUSTED, AND ISN'T ON THE SIDE
OF OHIO'S MIDDLE CLASS.
00:24:22>> THURSDAY WAS HOLOCAUST
REMEMBRANCE DAY, AND IT WAS
00:24:26COMMEMORATED FOR THE 32ND YEAR
AT THE STATEHOUSE THIS WEEK.
00:24:28THIS YEAR'S FEATURED SPEAKER WAS
WERNER COPPEL , A CINCINNATI
00:24:37RESIDENT WHO CAME TO OHIO FROM
GERMANY IN 1945, AFTER ESCAPING
00:24:39A DEATH MARCH WHILE A PRISONER
OF THE AUSCHWITZ CONCENTRATION
00:24:43CAMP.
THE KASICH ADMINISTRATION IS IN
00:24:45THE PROCESS OF CREATING A
PERMANENT HOLOCAUST MEMORIAL AT
00:24:50THE STATEHOUSE.
GOV. JOHN KASICH WAS AMONG THOSE
00:24:52WHO SPOKE AT THE EVENT, SAYING
HE'S MAKING GOOD ON A PROMISE
00:24:54HE OFFERED UP LAST YEAR.
>> ONE YEAR AGO I SAID THAT WE
00:24:57NEEDED TO HAVE
A MEMORIAL.
00:25:02ONE YEAR LATER, WE'RE GOING TO
HAVE A MEMORIAL ON THE GROUNDS
00:25:07OF THIS STATE HOUSE.
IT WILL BE THE FIRST MEMORIAL
00:25:10RECOGNIZING MAN'S INHUMANITY TO
MAN IN THE UNITED STATES OF
00:25:16AMERICA.
>> KASICH'S SPOKESMAN, ROB
00:25:18NICHOLS, SAYS THIS MEMORIAL IS
ACTUALLY THE FIRST OF ITS KIND
00:25:20AT A STATEHOUSE.
THE MEMORIAL THAT WILL BE BUILT
00:25:22ON THE STATEHOUSE LAWN WILL BE
MADE POSSIBLE BY PRIVATE
00:25:25DONATIONS AND STATE FUNDS.
AND THAT'S IT FOR THIS WEEK.
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