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00:01:10THE FIRST GOVERNOR'S RACE POLL
OF THE NEW YEAR SHOWS THE GAP
00:01:13NARROWING BETWEEN REPUBLICAN
GOV. JOHN KASICH AND HIS LIKELY
00:01:14DEMOCRATIC OPPONENT, CUYAHOGA
COUNTY EXECUTIVE ED FITZGERALD.
00:01:19KASICH NOW LEADS FITZGERALD BY
FIVE POINTS -- IN NOVEMBER, THE
00:01:27MARGIN BETWEEN THEM WAS SEVEN
POINTS, AND LAST SUMMER, THERE
00:01:29WAS A 14 POINT DIFFERENCE
BETWEEN THE CANDIDATES.
00:01:38KASICH'S APPROVAL RATING NOW
STANDS AT 51% - DOWN A POINT
00:01:39FROM NOVEMBER.
BUT 70 PERCENT SAY THEY DON'T
00:01:40KNOW ENOUGH ABOUT FITZGERALD TO
HAVE AN OPINION OF HIM.
00:01:43THAT QUINNIPIAC POLL DIDN'T
INCLUDE THE LIBERTARIAN
00:01:45CANDIDATE FOR GOVERNOR, CHARLIE
EARL, OR LARRY EALY, THE UNKNOWN
00:01:52DEMOCRAT WHO WE FOUND OUT THIS
WEEK HAS QUALIFIED FOR THE
00:01:54PRIMARY BALLOT TO RUN AGAINST
FITZGERALD.
00:01:57HE'S SO UNKNOWN WE DON'T EVEN
HAVE A PICTURE OF HIM TO SHOW
00:01:59YOU.
THE 51 YEAR OLD DAYTON AREA MAN
00:02:00SAYS HE'S A CIVIL RIGHTS
ADVOCATE WHO SAYS HE'S BEEN
00:02:02HELPING PEOPLE IN HIS COMMUNITY
DEAL WITH LEGAL ISSUES.
00:02:10HE SAYS HE'S IN THE RACE TO
CHALLENGE REPUBLICAN GOV.
00:02:12JOHN KASICH'S ECONOMIC POLICIES.
EALY SAYS HE'S A SERIOUS
00:02:13CANDIDATE, AND IS FUNDING HIS
CAMPAIGN HIMSELF.
00:02:19>> I DIDN'T EXPECT TO RUN
AGAINST FITZGERALD I KNOW
00:02:21NOTHING ABOUT HIM.
BUT IF HE'S STANDING IN THE WAY
00:02:23OF THE FIRST BLACK GOVERNOR,
HE'S GOT TO GO DOWN."
00:02:27>> EALY SAYS HE'S CURRENTLY
UNEMPLOYED AND ADMITS HIS
00:02:29CONFLICTS WITH POLICE AND THE
LEGAL SYSTEM OVER THE LAST TWO
00:02:31DECADES HAVE LED HIM TO THIS
RACE.
00:02:33THAT QUINNIPIAC POLL STARTED OFF
A BUSY WEEK FOR KASICH AND
00:02:37FITZGERALD.
THE CUYAHOGA COUNTY EXECUTIVE
00:02:39DELIVERED HIS STATE OF THE
COUNTY SPEECH ON WEDNESDAY.
00:02:42AND THE GOVERNOR IS PREPARING
HIS STATE OF THE STATE SPEECH
00:02:44FOR MONDAY.
FITZGERALD'S SPEECH BEFORE THE
00:02:51CITY CLUB OF CLEVELAND IS
AVAILABLE ON THE IDEASTREAM
00:02:53WEBSITE.
AND KASICH'S SPEECH WILL BE LIVE
00:02:54ON MANY OHIO PUBLIC RADIO AND
TELEVISION STATIONS MONDAY
00:02:55EVENING AT 7 I'LL BE ANCHORING
OUR COVERAGE FROM THE IDEASTREAM
00:02:57STUDIO IN CLEVELAND, AND WE'LL
HEAR THE SPEECH IN ITS ENTIRETY
00:03:00FROM THE MEDINA PERFORMING ARTS
CENTER AND RESPONSE TO IT WITH
00:03:02OUR ANDY CHOW, WHO'LL BE THERE
AS WELL.
00:03:12AND OF COURSE WE'LL RECAP THE
SPEECH AND THE REACTION ON NEXT
00:03:14WEEK'S SHOW.
THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE HAS ALSO
00:03:19BEEN ANSWERING QUESTIONS ABOUT A
CONTROVERSIAL PLAYBOOK
00:03:21DISCOVERED BY AN ENVIRONMENTAL
GROUP.
00:03:22THE OHIO DEPARTMENT OF NATURAL
RESOURCES, WHICH REGULATES OIL
00:03:24AND NATURAL GAS DRILLING IN
OHIO, CRAFTED A COMMUNICATIONS
00:03:25PLAN TO EDUCATE OHIOANS ABOUT
HORIZONTAL DRILLING AND
00:03:26HYDRAULIC FRACTURING, ALSO KNOWN
AS FRACKING, IN STATE PARKS.
00:03:34THE SIERRA CLUB FOUND OUT ABOUT
THE PLAN
00:03:42WHILE SIFTING THROUGH A BATCH OF
RECORDS IT REQUESTED FROM THE
00:03:44ODNR.
THE PLAN ALSO CATEGORIZED GROUPS
00:03:46IN THE STATE AS ALLIES AND
ADVERSARIES. THE "ENEMIES" LIST
00:03:51INCLUDES THE SIERRA CLUB, THE
OHIO ENVIRONMENTAL COUNCIL, AS
00:03:53WELL AS DEMOCRATIC REPS.
BOB HAGAN OF YOUNGSTOWN AND
00:03:55NICKIE ANTONIO OF LAKEWOOD.
WHILE THE MEMO SUGGESTS TOP
00:03:57ADVISERS TO KASICH KNEW ABOUT
THE PLAN, ODNR SAYS IT WAS NEVER
00:03:58PUT INTO ACTION.
KASICH SPOKESMAN ROB NICHOLS
00:04:08SAID IN RESPONSE,
"I DON'T KNOW WHAT SPECIFIC
00:04:10PIECES OF PAPER DIFFERENT PEOPLE
SAW A YEAR AND A HALF AGO, BUT
00:04:12OF COURSE THE ADMINISTRATION IS
GOING TO COORDINATE AND PLAN
00:04:13AHEAD ON AN IMPORTANT ISSUE LIKE
GAS PRODUCTION ON STATE LAND.
00:04:16IF WE DIDN'T, THESE SAME
EXTREMIST GROUPS WOULD BE
00:04:18ATTACKING US FOR NOT PLANNING
AHEAD."
00:04:28A DAY LATER, KASICH'S OFFICE
ANNOUNCED THAT HE'S OPPOSED TO
00:04:30FRACKING IN STATE PARKS.
HE DID SIGN LEGISLATION IN 2011
00:04:32THAT WOULD HAVE ALLOWED FRACKING
IN STATE PARKS AND FORESTS.
00:04:34BUT KASICH NEVER APPOINTED
MEMBERS TO A COMMISSION THAT
00:04:36WOULD HAVE MADE UP RULES FOR
FRACKING ON THOSE STATE LANDS.
00:04:44HOUSE LAWMAKERS VOTED TO GIVE
SCHOOL DISTRICTS A BIT OF A
00:04:45BREAK ON THE CALAMITY DAYS
THEY'VE BEEN RACKING UP.
00:04:51THE CHAMBER VOTED OVERWHELMINGLY
TO ALLOW FOUR MORE CALAMITY DAYS
00:04:53FOR STUDENTS, BUT TWO OF THOSE
DAYS WILL HAVE TO BE MADE UP BY
00:04:55TEACHERS.
THE BILL GOES ON TO THE SENATE,
00:04:57WHICH HAS ITS OWN CALAMITY DAYS
PROPOSAL.
00:04:59AND THE HOUSE ALSO PASSED TWO
CONTROVERSIAL ELECTION BILLS
00:05:00THAT WERE OKAYED BY THE SENATE
LAST YEAR.
00:05:09ONE PREVENTS COUNTY BOARDS OF
ELECTIONS FROM SENDING OUT
00:05:11UNSOLICITED ABSENTEE BALLOT
APPLICATIONS AND SAYS ONLY THE
00:05:12SECRETARY OF STATE CAN WITH
FUNDING FROM THE LEGISLATURE.
00:05:21THE OTHER SHORTENS THE EARLY
VOTING PERIOD BY A WEEK AND
00:05:23ELIMINATES THE SO-CALLED "GOLDEN
WEEK", WHEN NEW VOTERS COULD
00:05:25REGISTER AND CAST BALLOTS ON THE
SAME DAY.
00:05:30THIS YEAR MARKS THE 10 YEAR
ANNIVERSARY OF THE SIGNING OF
00:05:31THE LAW THAT CREATED OHIO'S
CONCEALED-CARRY WEAPONS PERMIT
00:05:33PROGRAM.
AND SINCE THEN, BILLS RELATED TO
00:05:38GUN SALES, ACCESS AND USE HAVE
BEEN COMING UP IN THE
00:05:39LEGISLATURE.
MOST OF THE BILLS THAT HAVE BEEN
00:05:41INTRODUCED WOULD EXPAND GUN
RIGHTS IN OHIO, BUILDING ON THE
00:05:43NUMBER OF PLACES WHERE CONCEALED
CARRY WEAPONS PERMIT HOLDERS CAN
00:05:46CARRY THEIR WEAPONS AND
SOMETIMES CUTTING BACK ON THE
00:05:48REQUIREMENTS THEY HAVE TO MEET.
AND THERE HAVE ALSO BEEN CHANGES
00:06:01TO LAWS REGARDING HOW AND WHEN
GUN OWNERS CAN DEFEND THEMSELVES
00:06:05AND THEIR PROPERTY.
BUT CRITICS OF THESE LAWS SAY
00:06:08THESE LAWS DO NOTHING TO DEAL
WITH DEADLY GUN VIOLENCE THAT
00:06:09THEY SAY KILLS A THOUSAND PEOPLE
EVERY YEAR, AND THAT THE
00:06:11SOLUTION IS SENSIBLE LEGISLATION
THAT PUTS MORE RULES ON CONCEAL
00:06:13CARRY WEAPONS PERMIT HOLDERS TO
PROTECT THE GENERAL PUBLIC.
00:06:16HERE TO TALK ABOUT A FEW OF THE
LATEST PIECES OF LEGISLATION ON
00:06:19THIS ISSUE ARE KEN HANSON WITH
THE BUCKEYE FIREARMS ASSOCIATION
00:06:24AND AMY PULLES WITH THE OHIO
COALITION AGAINST GUN VIOLENCE.
00:06:31FIRST LET'S TALK ABOUT ONE OF
THE BILLS THAT GOT A LOT OF
00:06:33ATTENTION, "THE STAND YOUR
GROUND."
00:06:35IT WOULD EXPAND THE SITUATION IN
WHICH GUNS CAN BE USED BEYOND
00:06:45CARS AND HOMES.
IT ALSO MAKES CONCEALED WEAPONS
00:06:46LICENSES AND OTHER -- LICENSES
IN OTHER STATES VALID ACROSS
00:06:53STATE LINES.
WHAT IS WRONG WITH ALL THAT?
00:06:54>> THERE IS QUITE A BIT WRONG
WITH THE HOUSE BILL.
00:06:58AS FAR AS THE STAND YOUR GROUND
PORTION, IT IS UNNECESSARY FOR
00:07:03YOU TO BE ABLE TO DEFEND
YOURSELF IN PUBLIC IN THE STATE
00:07:06OF OHIO, WE HAVE A DOCTRINE
WHICH PROTECTS YOU UNDER
00:07:10SELF-DEFENSE IN CASE YOU ARE
BEING ATTACKED OR IF YOU ARE IN
00:07:13CLEAR DANGER.
ANOTHER PROBLEM THAT WE HAVE
00:07:16WITH HOUSE BILL 203 IS REP OR
SAUCE -- RECIPROCITY.
00:07:21WE WOULD NOT LET COLORADO
DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT YOU
00:07:29COULD LEGALLY SMOKE MARIJUANA IN
OHIO.
00:07:30WHY WOULD WE ALLOW OTHER STATES,
SUCH AS ALABAMA, TO DETERMINE
00:07:38WHO CAN AND CAN'T CARRY A
CONCEALED WEAPON IN OHIO.
00:07:41I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD ALLOW
RECIPROCITY.
00:07:43WE ALLOW OTHER STATES TO DICTATE
WHAT WE CAN AND CAN'T DO.
00:07:48DEMO CAN WE ASK YOU ABOUT SOME
OF WHAT AMY SAID.
00:07:52I HEARD IT SAID THIS ISN'T A
REAL STAND YOUR GROUND BILL LIKE
00:07:58THE ONE THAT WAS REFERENCED
QUITE OFTEN IN THE TRAYVON
00:08:02MARTIN SHOOTING BY GEORGE
ZIMMERMAN IN FLORIDA.
00:08:03THEM A HOUSE BILL 203 DOES ONE
SIMPLE THING, IT REMOVES THE
00:08:08DUTY TO SPECIFICALLY RETREAT
FROM ANY PRIOR -- FROM ANY PLACE
00:08:13WE HAVE A RIGHT TO BE LEGALLY
PRESENT.
00:08:16IT DOES NOTHING WITH THE
DOCTRINE.
00:08:19IT DOESN'T EVEN IMPACT THE CODE
SECTION THAT IS IMPLEMENT IT FOR
00:08:23THE CASTLE DOCTRINE.
THAT IS NOT SOMETHING THAT IS
00:08:26DONE.
ALL IT DOES IS SAYS THERE IS NO
00:08:29DUTY TO PHYSICALLY RETREAT
CURRENTLY FROM YOUR OWN HOME,
00:08:32YOUR OWN PLACE OF BUSINESS, OR
YOUR OWN VEHICLE.
00:08:34THIS WOULD SIMPLY EXPAND IT
ANYPLACE YOU HAVE A RIGHT TO BE
00:08:39LEGALLY PRESENT.
AS FAR AS THE RECIPROCITY
00:08:41PORTION, WE DON'T LET ALABAMA
DECIDE WHICH TAXES ARE PAID
00:08:47BECAUSE THERE'S NO
CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT TO PAY
00:08:48TAXES OR NOT PAY TAXES.
WE DON'T HAVE A CONSTITUTIONAL
00:08:53RIGHT TO SMOKE MARIJUANA.
WHAT WE DO HAVE IS A UNIFORM
00:08:58NATIONWIDE CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT
FOR SELF-DEFENSE.
00:08:59JUST LET ALABAMA COULD NOT
RESTRICT ME FROM GOING TO
00:09:04CHURCH, IT COULDN'T RESTRICT ME
FROM READING A NEWSPAPER INTO
00:09:07MAKING A SPEECH.
ALABAMA SHOULD NOT BE ABLE TO
00:09:09RESTRICT MY RIGHT TO BE DEFEND
DEBT TO DEFEND MYSELF WHILE I AM
00:09:13IN ALABAMA.
>> LET ME ASK YOU A QUESTION
00:09:16ABOUT THAT RECIPROCITY.
IF YOU HAVE A CAN -- IF YOU HAVE
00:09:21A CARRY PERMIT IN ONE SPATE --
IN ONE STATE IT IS ILLEGAL -- IT
00:09:25IS LEGAL IN OHIO.
DOESN'T THAT SET PEOPLE UP WHO
00:09:28ARE LAW-ABIDING CONCEALED CARRY
WEAPONS PEOPLE, DOESN'T THAT SET
00:09:35THEM UP FOR A AN ARREST -- FOR
AN ARREST?
00:09:39>> IN SOME STATES THEIR LAWS ARE
WEAKER.
00:09:41THEY RECOGNIZE OHIO'S CONCEALED
CARRY.
00:09:44WE WOULD BE REQUIRED TO
RECOGNIZE THOSE CONCEALED CARRY
00:09:49LICENSES IN OUR STATE.
EVEN THOUGH THERE ARE
00:09:53REQUIREMENTS TO GET A CONCEALED
CARRY IN OHIO -- EVEN THOUGH THE
00:09:57REQUIREMENTS TO GET A CONCEALED
CARRY IN OHIO ARE WEAKER.
00:09:59THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO CARRY
THEIR LICENSE IN OHIO.
00:10:05WE JUST CANNOT ALLOW OTHER
STATES AFFECT OUR SAFETY IN
00:10:10OHIO.
>> I HAVE HEARD CRITICS TALK
00:10:15ABOUT THIS BILL, THE CALL IT A
SHOOT FIRST LAW.
00:10:17TELL ME WHY YOU FEEL THAT IS
UNFAIR.
00:10:19THEM ALABAMA CANNOT ALLOW A
DOMESTIC VIOLENCE ABUSE OR TO
00:10:25GET A LICENSE.
THEY ARE NOT ALLOWED TO EVEN
00:10:30POSSESS A FIREARM.
ALABAMA CANNOT ALLOW THEM TO
00:10:34CARRY A FIREARM.
THE IDEA THAT ONCE THEY -- ONCE
00:10:41THE TRAINING REQUIREMENTS ARE
GOING TO PROTECT THAT AREA AND
00:10:45-- THAT, WE LOOK ACROSS THE
NATION.
00:10:46THEY HAVE NO TRAINING
REQUIREMENTS.
00:10:49THEY HAVE HAD NO PROBLEMS.
>> IT WOULD CHANGE THE
00:11:06REQUIREMENTS CONCEALED CARRY
PERMIT OWNERS WOULD NEED.
00:11:12>> IT WOULD ELIMINATE -- THE
CALL THAT CONSTITUTIONAL CARRY.
00:11:19YOU DON'T NEED ANYTHING OTHER
THAN THE CONSTITUTION.
00:11:20WHERE THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY WILL
LIKELY COME DOWN IS ON AN EIGHT
00:11:25HOUR TRAINING REQUIREMENTS.
>> IT IS BETTER THAN NOTHING
00:11:33THEM WHAT IS AN HOUSE BILL 203.
>> LET ME ASK YOU ABOUT ANOTHER
00:11:37BILL.
THIS ONE IS DIFFERENT IN THE
00:11:41SENSE OF HUNTING VERSUS PERSONAL
DEFENSE.
00:11:45THIS WOULD ALLOW FOR THE USE OF
NOISE SUPPRESSORS OR SILENCERS
00:11:48WHEN HUNTING IS GOING ON LET ME
ASK YOU, THERE ARE QUESTIONS
00:11:56ABOUT HOW SAFE THAT WOULD BE.
HUNTERS OUT IN THE WOODS TEND TO
00:12:00LISTEN FOR OTHER HUNTERS TO FIND
OUT WHERE THE OTHER HUNTERS ARE
00:12:03AND PEOPLE WHO HAPPEN TO BE IN
WOODS ALSO LISTEN.
00:12:05HOW WOULD YOU KNOW TO AVOID AN
AREA IF YOU CANNOT HEAR THE
00:12:10SHOTS?
, WE HAVE AN OPEN HOUSE.
00:12:14WE HAVE GENERAL ASSEMBLY MEMBERS
OUT TO SEE WHAT PREPARED -- TO
00:12:19SEE WHAT SUPPRESSORS ACTUALLY
DO.
00:12:20IT IS DOWN FROM 135 DECIBELS TO
110.
00:12:27YOU CAN HEAR IT UP FROM THREE
QUARTERS OF A MILE AWAY.
00:12:28THE UNFORTUNATE REALITY IS OUR
EXPERIENCE WITH SUPPRESSORS IS A
00:12:32STOP HOLLYWOOD.
HOLLYWOOD HAS NO IDEA WHAT
00:12:36SUPPRESSORS DO.
IT DOES NOT MAKE THE SHOT
00:12:39SILENCE.
YOU ARE STILL GOING TO HEAR FROM
00:12:40A LONG WAY OFF.
I HAVE A CONSTANT RINGING IN MY
00:12:44LEFT EAR BECAUSE I AM
RIGHT-HANDED.
00:12:45WHEN I SHOOT PISTOLS I TURN THIS
YEAR.
00:12:47EVEN WITH HEARING PROTECTION I
SUFFER PERMANENT HEARING LOSS.
00:12:51THE ARGUMENTS THAT IS ON USING
SUPPRESSORS IS YOU CAN USE
00:12:58EARPLUGS.
THAT IS LIKE SAYING BECAUSE
00:13:00BELTS ARE ILLEGAL, SUSPENDERS --
ELSE ARE LEGAL, SUSPENDERS
00:13:06SHOULD BE A FELONY.
AT BELTS ARE LEGAL, SUSPENDERS
00:13:10SHOULD BE A FELONY.
>> 110 DECIBELS IS STILL PRETTY
00:13:14LOUD.
>> MYSELF AND MY SONS LOVE GOING
00:13:18IN THE WOODS AND LOOKING FOR
SPIDERS TO FEED THEIR LIZARDS.
00:13:22IF I HAVE MY CHILDREN IN THE
WOODS AND THEY ARE WALKING
00:13:27AROUND AND SOMEBODY IS HUNTING,
I WANT THE BEST CHANCE POSSIBLE
00:13:29TO BE ABLE TO HEAR THAT.
THEN I CAN HEAR AND REMOVE
00:13:32MYSELF OUT OF HARMS WAY.
I NEED THE BEST CHANCE IS
00:13:38POSSIBLE TO KNOW THAT SOMEBODY
IS SHOOTING.
00:13:39THEM AND THESE NOISE SUPPRESSORS
WOULD BE ABLE TO BE USED ON ANY
00:13:43LEGAL WEAPON THAT IS ALLOWED TO
BE USED IN HUNTING.
00:13:45>> ANYTHING THAT IS ILLEGAL TO
HUNT, ANY LEGAL HUNTING
00:13:49IMPLEMENTS.
>> CAN YOU HUNT WITH A HANDGUN?
00:13:55, YOU CAN HUNT WITH A HANDGUN.
>> LET ME ASK YOU ABOUT THE
00:14:06REPORTS OF SILENCE OR PURCHASES.
THE NUMBER OF SILENCERS BEING
00:14:11PURCHASED IN OHIO SOARED 34%.
WHY HAS THAT HAPPENED?
00:14:13>> PEOPLE ARE SUDDENLY REALIZE
THEY CAN LEGALLY -- REALIZING
00:14:20THEY CAN LEGALLY PURCHASE THESE
ITEMS.
00:14:21WHAT WE HAVE LEARNED THROUGH THE
MEDIA AND HOLLYWOOD IS YOU
00:14:25CANNOT OWN THESE THINGS.
A ARE ILLEGAL, THEY ARE DEADLY.
00:14:27AS PEOPLE BEGIN TO REALIZE YOU
CAN LEGALLY PURCHASE THEM --
00:14:32KEEP IN MIND YOU ARE TALKING
ABOUT A $1200 MINIMUM
00:14:35INVESTMENT.
>> I WANT TO TALK ABOUT SEVERAL
00:14:40BILLS THAT WOULD EXPAND WHERE
CONCEALED CARRY WEAPONS AND
00:14:45HOLDERS CAN CARRY THEIR
CONCEALED WEAPONS.
00:14:48YOU HAVE SOME BUILDINGS THAT ARE
COMPLETELY OFF-LIMITS, OTHER
00:14:51BUSINESSES SAYING THEY DO NOT
WANT CONCEALED CARRY PERMIT
00:14:55HOLDERS TO CARRY THEIR WEAPONS
INTO THEIR ESTABLISHMENT.
00:14:57SOME OF THESE WOULD ALLOW CARRIE
INTO UNIVERSITY COLLEGE
00:15:05BUILDINGS, CERTAIN GOVERNMENT
BUILDINGS.
00:15:06ANOTHER WOULD ALLOW EMPLOYEES TO
CARRY IN SCHOOL ZONES.
00:15:10YOU COULDN'T, AS A PRIVATE IN
THIS -- AS A PRIVATE BUSINESS
00:15:20OWNER, YOU CANNOT SAY YOU CANNOT
CARRY YOUR WEAPON HERE.
00:15:23WHY DO WE NEED TO EXPAND ALL OF
THESE PLACES.
00:15:27WHY ARE WE ALLOWING THEM EVEN
INTO BARS NOW?
00:15:32WHY THIS EXPANSION INTO PLACES
LIKE CHURCHES AND SYNAGOGUES AND
00:15:38DAY CARE CENTERS.
>> LET'S START WITH THE HOUSE OF
00:15:42WORSHIP.
THE DEFAULT IS THAT CONCEALED
00:15:51CARRY'S ARE BANNED.
IF I GO TO CHURCH NEXT SUNDAY IN
00:15:53MY CHURCH IS NOT CHOSEN TO
ACKNOWLEDGE A LICENSE, I CANNOT
00:15:57CONCEAL OR CARRY.
IT IS NOT A NO GUN FACILITY.
00:16:04WHAT WE ARE SAYING IS THESE
WORDS ON A PIECE OF PAPER DO
00:16:12NOTHING TO INCREASE SECURITY.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE MULTIPLE
00:16:15VICTIM MASS SHOOTING'S IN THE
LAST 30 OR 40 YEARS, THEY ALWAYS
00:16:20OCCUR IN THESE PLACES.
IT DOES NOTHING TO INCREASE
00:16:24SECURITY.
IT DOES EVERYTHING TO PROHIBIT
00:16:27ME FROM HAVING A CHANCE TO FIGHT
BACK IF THAT UNTHINKABLE THING
00:16:33ACTUALLY HAPPENS.
>> DO YOU BELIEVE THERE SHOULD
00:16:35BE ANY NO GUN FACILITIES?
, CERTAINLY, AS A PROSECUTOR I
00:16:39HAVE BEEN ATTACKED PHYSICALLY IN
COURT.
00:16:41I WOULDN'T WANT THAT DEFENDANT
CARRYING A GUN.
00:16:44THE VEIL OF CARRYING A GUN IS
FINE WITH ME ON THAT ONE.
00:16:47WE ARE TALKING ABOUT PRIVATE
AIRCRAFT.
00:16:54I SHOULD BE ABLE TO PUT THAT GUN
ON THAT AIRPLANE.
00:16:58>> LET ME ASK YOU ABOUT THIS
IDEA THAT THESE PERMIT HOLDERS
00:17:02GO THROUGH TRAINING, THEY ARE A
LAW ABIDING CITIZENS -- THEY ARE
00:17:06LAW-ABIDING CITIZENS.
WHY SHOULDN'T THERE BE THE
00:17:13OPPORTUNITY FOR A LAW-ABIDING
PERSON WHO HAS DONE THIS
00:17:14TRAINING TO BE ABLE TO DEFEND
THEMSELVES?
00:17:18, WHEN YOU EXPAND TO PLACES
WHERE YOU CAN CARRY CONCEALED
00:17:21WEAPONS, IN THAT PROCESS YOU ARE
THEN TAKING AWAY MY RIGHT TO
00:17:28PROTECT MYSELF.
THE FORMER PROTECTION THAT I
00:17:31CHOOSE -- THE FORM OF THE FENCE
I CHOOSE IS PREVENTION.
00:17:36I KEEP MYSELF AND MY KIDS AWAY
FROM FIREARMS.
00:17:39IF THE PERSON SITTING NEXT TO ME
HAS A FIREARM UNDERNEATH THEIR
00:17:47CLOTHING, I FEEL LIKE I HAVE THE
RIGHT TO KNOW THAT SO I CAN MAKE
00:17:49THE CHOICE TO MOVE OR FLEE.
MY BEST WAY TO BE -- TO PREVENT
00:17:59BEING ENTERED IS STAY AWAY FROM
THEM.
00:18:01>> MANY TIMES YOU DON'T KNOW IF
THEY WENT THROUGH THE TRAINING.
00:18:07SOMETIMES THEY'RE CARRYING AND
THEY JUST HAVE DONE.
00:18:09>> I AM CONCERNED ABOUT THE
ACCIDENTAL SHOOTINGS AND
00:18:15RESTAURANTS.
SOMEBODY DROPS IT AND IT GOES
00:18:16OFF.
IF THAT MAN HAD KNOWN THAT HE
00:18:24WAS CARRYING A CONCEALED WEAPON
-- IF HE HAD KNOWN THAT HE HAD
00:18:29THAT WEAPON, I THINK THE OUTCOME
MIGHT HAVE BEEN DIFFERENT.
00:18:32HIS INTERACTION WITH THAT MAN
WOULD HAVE CHANGED.
00:18:38I THINK I HAVE THE RIGHT TO KNOW
THAT SOMEBODY HAS A WEAPON WITH
00:18:40THEM.
WHETHER THEY ARE A GOOD GUY OR
00:18:42NOT.
>> ONE OF THE BILLS YOU ARE
00:18:47SUPPORTING WOULD ALLOW -- WOULD
REQUIRE A BACKGROUND CHECK I
00:18:51LICENSED FIREARMS DEALERS ON ALL
TRANSFERS.
00:18:53AREN'T THERE ENOUGH BACKGROUND
CHECKS BEING DONE?
00:18:58, BACK GROUND CHECKS ARE ONLY
REQUIRED ON THE FIRST SALE.
00:19:04IF I PURCHASED A GUN AND SELL IT
TO MY COUSIN OR SELL IT ONLINE,
00:19:14THERE IS NO BACKGROUND CHECK.
ANYBODY CAN PURCHASE THAT.
00:19:18>> HOW WOULD THIS BE ENFORCED?
>> THERE WOULD BE DIFFICULTIES
00:19:27IN ENFORCING IT BUT THAT DOES
NOT MEAN IT WOULD BE ENFORCED OF
00:19:32THE LAW.
>> IT FEELS LIKE YOU CAN GO OUT,
00:19:34BUY A GUN, AND SELL IT TO
SOMEBODY WHO SHOULD NOT HAVE A
00:19:36GUN.
NOW YOU HAVE SOMEBODY WHO IS NOT
00:19:39SUPPOSED TO HAVE A GUN HAVING
ONE.
00:19:40>> THERE IS A LAW IN THE BOOKS.
YOU ARE CRIMINALLY RESPONSIBLE
00:19:47IF YOU DO.
I AM NOT PICKING ON THIS PIECE
00:19:52OF LEGISLATION.
IT IS NOT ABOUT BACKGROUND
00:19:57CHECKS, IT IS ABOUT REGISTERING
FIREARMS.
00:19:59IT IS SELLING THE GUNS
ILLEGALLY.
00:20:00THEY ALREADY HAVE CRIMINAL AND
CIVIL LIABILITIES.
00:20:07>> A NEW BILL WOULD REQUIRE
FIREARMS SELLERS TO TELL ABOUT
00:20:18THIS NEW STUDY WHEN THEY BUY A
GUN.
00:20:19WHAT IS WRONG WITH THAT?
>> I LIKE BOB HAGAN.
00:20:25HE HAS A GREAT SENSE OF HUMOR.
THIS IS A A PRACTICAL JOKE.
00:20:28GUNS PUT BULLETS INTO A TARGET.
WHY DO WE NEED TO STUDY?
00:20:38WHITE WE NEED TO PRESENT
SOMETHING?
00:20:40PEOPLE KNOW WHAT GUNS DO TO
OTHER PEOPLE.
00:20:43>> LET ME ASK YOU ABOUT THAT.
>> I THINK THAT MAKING GUN
00:20:45OWNERS MORE AWARE AND HAVING GUN
OWNERS BE TOLD WHEN THEY
00:20:49PURCHASE A FIREARM HOW THESE
PEOPLE BEING KILLED ARE BEING
00:20:54KILLED, FOR EXAMPLE IF YOU SAY
TWO THIRDS OF ALL FIREARM DEATHS
00:21:00ARE A RESULT OF SUICIDE IT MAY
MAKE SOME BASIC BACK.
00:21:03TO ME IT IS A STARTLING FIGURE
THAT 20,000 PEOPLE PER YEAR ARE
00:21:09DYING -- ARE DYING FROM
FIREARMS.
00:21:11IT WILL RESULT IN THEM TAKING A
MOMENT TO THINK ABOUT WHAT DO I
00:21:24NEED TO DO TO MAKE SURE THAT
DOES NOT HAPPEN IN MY HOUSE?
00:21:26>> YOU DON'T THINK PEOPLE COME
LICENSED FIREARMS DEALER AND
00:21:34SAY, I WANT TO BUY A GUN.
IT'S NOT PROMOTE TOO MUCH IS AT?
00:21:37>> IF I COULD JUST GIVE YOU AN
ANALOGY, CELL PHONES ARE THE
00:21:45LEADING CAUSE OF DEATH AMONG
TEENAGERS.
00:21:46WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT PUTTING
CELL PHONE MANUFACTURERS ON TO
00:21:53SHOW THESE PICTURES -- TO SHOW
THESE PEOPLE PICTURES OF
00:21:54DISTRACTED DRIVERS.
>> WE PUT WARNINGS ON THEM BUT
00:22:05WE ARE NOT REQUIRING A TAX
FUNDED STUDY.
00:22:07PEOPLE KNOW WHAT GUNS TO.
>> LET ME WRAP THIS UP BY
00:22:22ASKING, IS THERE COMMON GROUND
HERE?
00:22:23YOU FOLKS ON THE SIDE WANT
CERTAIN THINGS.
00:22:29IS THERE COMMON GROUND?
IS THERE ANY BILL YOU BOTH CAN
00:22:32AGREE ON THAT REALLY DO PROTECT
GUN OWNERS?
00:22:39>> I THINK SAFE STORAGE -- IF
THEY TILE -- THEY DON'T SAY WHO
00:22:51CAN AND CAN'T OPEN AGAIN.
THEY DON'T SAY WHO CAN AND CAN'T
00:22:53DEFEND THEMSELVES.
WHAT IT SAYS IS THAT IF YOU HAVE
00:22:55A CHILD IN YOUR HOME, YOU ARE
GOING TO LOCK UP YOUR FIREARMS.
00:22:59YOU'RE GOING TO TAKE THE FIVE
EXTRA SECONDS IT TAKES TO UNLOCK
00:23:02YOUR BOX SO THAT YOUR
THREE-YEAR-OLD DOES NOT CLIMB UP
00:23:07YOUR DRESSER AND GRABBED A HOLD
OF THAT GUN AND SHOOT HIMSELF BY
00:23:10MISTAKE.
I THINK THAT WOULD BE A GREAT
00:23:21STARTING POINT FOR BOTH OF OUR
SITES TO COME TOGETHER ON.
00:23:26>> THE PROBLEM WITH SAFE STORAGE
IS THERE IS NO ONE SIZE FITS ALL
00:23:33SOLUTION.
SOMEONE HAS A RANT KID, SOMEONE
00:23:39LIKE ME HAS 16-YEAR-OLD AND A 12
EURO.
00:23:42WE HAVE DIFFERENT SITUATIONS AND
DIFFERENT SOLUTIONS.
00:23:44A I THINK IF WE ARE GOING TO
LOOK AT COMMON GROUND TO REDUCE
00:23:51CHILD DEATHS -- BY THE WAY,
VIOLENT CRIME IS AT AN ALL-TIME
00:23:55LOW EVEN THOUGH GUN SALES ARE AT
AN ALL-TIME HIGH.
00:23:58ALL 50 STATES HAVE A CONCEALED
CARRY.
00:24:02IF WE ARE GOING TO LOOK AT
SOMETHING WHERE WE WOULD HAVE
00:24:04COMMON GROUND, WE TEACH KIDS
ABOUT CONDOMS, WE TEACH THEM
00:24:08ABOUT AIDS, WE TEACH THEM ABOUT
DRUGS.
00:24:09MAKE IT MANDATORY THAT GUN
SAFETY TRAINING BE A PART OF
00:24:15ELEMENTARY SCHOOL CURRICULUM,
WHICH WOULD ACCOMPLISH A COMMON
00:24:19GOAL BUT THROUGH DIFFERENT SAFE
STORAGE.
00:24:25DEMO FINALLY, A LITTLE
SELF-SERVING QUESTION.
00:24:26YOU ARE IN FAVOR OF ILLUMINATING
JOURNALISTS ACCESS TO A
00:24:31CONCEALED CARRY WEAPON HOLDERS?
>> FROM MY STANDPOINT I DON'T
00:24:41CONSIDER THIS A MASSIVE PRIORITY
TO CHANGE CURRENT LAW.
00:24:43YOU CAN GO TO THE SHERIFF AND
SAY, HEY DID HE HAVE A CONCEALED
00:24:48CARRY LICENSE?
OUR CONCERN WAS THE WHOLESALE OF
00:24:51REPRODUCTION WITH THE JOURNALS
PRINT THEM -- WE SAW THIS JUST
00:24:58IN THE LAST WEEK OR TWO WEEKS.
THEY SAID WE ARE GOING TO BUILD
00:25:03STATE-BY-STATE DATABASES.
THERE IS NO PLACE FOR THAT.
00:25:05>> YOU MENTIONED THAT THESE LAWS
ARE ABOUT BUILDING A GUN
00:25:13REGISTRY IN A DATABASE OF
REGISTERED GUN OWNERS.
00:25:16IS THAT WHAT A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO
WANT TO RESTRICT GUN AXIS WANT
00:25:21TO SEE?
THEY WANT TO SEE A LIST OF WHO
00:25:26OWNS THE GUN AND THEREFORE THOSE
PEOPLE CAN BE IN SOME WAY
00:25:29TARGETED AT?
>> WE WANT TO SEE LEGISLATION
00:25:34THAT MAKES THE GENERAL PUBLIC
SAFE.
00:25:35>> DO YOU FEEL PEOPLE ARE SAFER
WHEN THEY KNOW IF THEIR NEIGHBOR
00:25:39HAS A GUN?
>> ONLY WITH THEIR NEIGHBOR OR
00:25:46THEIR CHILD IS PLAYING IN THEIR
NEIGHBOR'S HOME.
00:25:51>> OR IF THEY ARE IN A MOVIE
THEATER BEHIND SOMEONE WHO IS A
00:25:54RETIRED POLICE OFFICER.
IT IS A SLIPPERY SLOPE.
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