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00:00:04>> SUPPORT FOR THE STATEWIDE
BROADCAST OF "THE STATE OF OHIO"
00:00:11SON-IN-LAW OFFICES OF -- HELPING
INDIVIDUALS AND BUSINESSES SOLVE
00:00:17COMPLEX LEGAL PROBLEMS ACROSS
THE OHIO AND AROUND THE WORLD.
00:00:21AND FROM THE OHIO EDUCATION
ASSOCIATION, REPRESENTING
00:00:27131,000 TEACHERS,
PROFESSIONALS, AND HIGHER
00:00:30EDUCATION FACULTY WORKING FOR
GREAT PUBLIC SCHOOLS FOR EVERY
00:00:35CHILD.
ADDITIONAL SUPPORT FOR THE STATE
00:00:37OF OHIO IS MADE POSSIBLE BY
ETECH OHIO.
00:00:42>> THE FILING DEADLINE COMES AND
GOES, AND LOTS OF WELL-KNOWN
00:00:46CANDIDATES ARE BACK IN THE
POLITICAL ARENA.
00:00:47AS DEMOCRATS UNITE IN THEIR
DRIVE TO PUT A LAW BEFOREÑi
00:00:48VOTERS FOR THE THIRD TIME,
REPUBLICANS APPEAR TO BE
00:00:51BATTLING A CIVIL WAR WITHIN
THEIR RANKS. TWO LEADING EXPERTS
00:00:54IN STATE POLITICS TALK ABOUT
WHAT THEY THINK IS REALLY GOING
00:00:57ON.
AND TWO OF THE NATION'S TOP
00:00:59ECONOMIC MINDS FACE OFF AND
TALK ABOUT WHAT THEY WISH THEY
00:01:01COULD CONVINCE THE OTHER TO
THINK.
00:01:03ALL THIS WEEK IN "THE STATE OF
OHIO".
00:01:07THE DEADLINE FOR FILING
PETITIONS TO RUN IN THE MARCH
00:01:14PRIMARIES FOR STATE LAWMAKERS
AND THE US SENATE WAS THIS WEEK,
00:01:16AND THERE WERE SOME SURPRISES
IN THE LIST OF THOSE WHO TURNED
00:01:19IN THEIR PAPERWORK.
OHIO DEMOCRATS HAVE TAKEN THE
00:01:22RARE STEP OF PUTTING UP A
CANDIDATE FOR EVERY OHIO HOUSE
00:01:25DISTRICT IN 2012, EVEN THOSE
THAT VOTE RELIABLY REPUBLICAN.
00:01:28THAT'S THE FIRST TIME THAT'S
HAPPENED SINCE THE EARLY 90S,
00:01:33WHEN THE LEGENDARY VERN RIFFE
WAS HOUSE SPEAKER.
00:01:35THE PARTY SAYS THE RECRUITMENT
EFFORT SHOWS THEY'RE ENERGIZED
00:01:39FOLLOWING THE SUCCESSFUL
CAMPAIGN TO REPEAL SENATE BILL
00:01:425, THE COLLECTIVE BARGAINING
REFORM LAW. THE PARTY SAYS 10
00:01:44TEACHERS HAVE FILED TO RUN FOR
THE LEGISLATURE, ALONG WITH A
00:01:48NUMBER OF VETERANS. AND FIVE
FORMER STATE LAWMAKERS HOPE TO
00:01:51RETURN TO THEIR OLD JOBS, AMONG
THEM, OHIO DEMOCRATIC PARTY
00:01:55CHAIR CHRIS REDFERN.
STATE TREASURER JOSH MANDEL
00:01:59FACES A CROWDED FIELD ON HIS
WAY TO THE REPUBLICAN NOMINATION
00:02:01FOR US SENATE. FIVE OTHERS HAVE
FILED TO RUN AGAINST HIM, THOUGH
00:02:05HE HASN'T OFFICIALLY ANNOUNCED
HE'S RUNNING.
00:02:07THE WINNER OF THE 6-WAY CONTEST
-- FIVE-WAY REPUBLICAN CONTEST
00:02:17WOULD FACE INCUMBENT U.S. SEN.
SHERROD BROWN, A DEMOCRAT, IN
00:02:19NOVEMBER IN ONE OF THE NATION'S
MOST CLOSELY WATCHED SENATE
00:02:22RACES.
MANDEL ALREADY HAS 3.3 MILLION
00:02:24DOLLARS IN THE BANK, COMPARED
TO BROWNS 4.2 MILLION, BUT
00:02:25MANDEL HAS OUTRAISED BROWN IN
BOTH OF THE LAST TWO QUARTERS.
00:02:28THOUGH THE PRIMARIES FOR
CONGRESS AND THE PRESIDENCY
00:02:33AREN'T SCHEDULED TILL JUNE,
CANDIDATES FOR THOSE FEDERAL
00:02:38OFFICES WERE ADVISED TO FILE
THEIR PAPERWORK THIS WEEK AS
00:02:40WELL.
FOUR CANDIDATES FILED FOR
00:02:42PRESIDENT -- THE INCUMBENT
DEMOCRAT BARACK OBAMA, ALONG
00:02:46WITH THREE REPUBLICAN
CHALLENGERS, NEWT GINGRICH,
00:02:47RICK PERRY AND MITT ROMNEY.
SEVERAL NOTABLE NAMES CAME UP
00:02:52IN THE FILINGS FOR CONGRESS.
AS EXPECTED, REPUBLICAN
00:02:56CONGRESSMEN STEVE AUSTRIA AND
MIKE TURNER WILL GO AGAINST ONE
00:02:58ANOTHER IN THE 10TH DISTRICT,
AND DEMOCRATS MARCY KAPTUR AND
00:03:02DENNIS KUCINICH WILL FACE OFF
IN THE 9TH.
00:03:04THE MAN WHO BECAME KNOWN AS JOE
THE PLUMBER IN THE 2008
00:03:08PRESIDENTIAL RACE, SAMUEL
WURZELBACHER, COULD END UP
00:03:12AGAINST ONE OF THEM -- HE'S
FILED FOR THE REPUBLICAN
00:03:16NOMINATION IN THE 9TH.
AND CURRENT MEMBERS OF CONGRESS
00:03:19JIM RENACCI, A REPUBLICAN, AND
BETTY SUTTON, A DEMOCRAT, FILED
00:03:22IN THE 16TH.
IN THE NEW 3RD CONGRESSIONAL
00:03:26DISTRICT, FORMER HOUSE MAJORITY
LEADER JOYCE BEATTY, REP. TED
00:03:29CELESTE, FORMER CONGRESSWOMAN
MARY JO KILROY AND COLUMBUS
00:03:31CITY COUNCILMEMBER PRISCILLA
TYSON ARE ALL VYING FOR THE
00:03:37DEMOCRATIC NOMINATION.
THERE WILL BE A DEMOCRATIC
00:03:41PRIMARY BATTLE BETWEEN
INCUMBENT MARCIA FUDGE AND STATE
00:03:42SENATOR NINA TURNER IN THE 11TH
DISTRICT. AND CURRENT 15TH
00:03:47CONGRESSMAN REPUBLICAN STEVE
STIVERS COULD FACE THE ATHENS
00:03:51LAW DIRECTOR, DEMOCRAT PATRICK
LANG, IN THE 16TH DISTRICT.
00:03:53-- IN THE 6TH DISTRICT,
INCUMBENT REPUBLICAN BILL
00:04:00JOHNSON AND DEMOCRATIC FORMER
CONGRESSMAN CHARLIE WILSON BOTH
00:04:02FILED.
AND IN THE 1ST DISTRICT, TEA
00:04:04PARTY ACTIVIST DAVID LEWIS,
WHO'S BEEN ARRESTED PROTESTING
00:04:07OUTSIDE OF US HOUSE SPEAKER
JOHN BOEHNER'S OFFICE, WILL RUN
00:04:10AGAINST BOEHNER IN THE
REPUBLICAN PRIMARY.
00:04:13MONTHS AFTER IT PASSED THE
HOUSE, THE BILL THAT WOULD
00:04:18IMPOSE THE NATION'S STRICTEST
BAN ON ABORTION HAD ITS FIRST
00:04:20HEARING IN THE SENATE THIS
WEEK, SOMETHING THAT SOME
00:04:24OBSERVERS HAD THOUGHT WOULDN'T
HAPPEN THIS YEAR.
00:04:26AND THE BILL IS NOW POISED TO
BE VOTED ON BY THE FULL SENATE
00:04:33BY THE END OF 2011.
THE SO-CALLED "HEARTBEAT BILL"
00:04:35WOULD OUTLAW ABORTIONS AT THE
FIRST DETECTABLE FETAL
00:04:36HEARTBEAT, SOMETIMES HEARD AS
EARLY AS SIX WEEKS INTO
00:04:39PREGNANCY.
SUPPORTERS HAVE BEEN PRESSURING
00:04:42STATE LAWMAKERS TO PASS IT IN A
CAMPAIGN-LIKE EFFORT THAT'S
00:04:45INCLUDED RADIO AND TELEVISION
ADS AND A BANNER FLOWN OVER THE
00:04:48STATEHOUSE.
THE BILL HAS SPLIT THE PRO-LIFE
00:04:51COMMUNITY -- OHIO RIGHT TO LIFE
HAS VOTED NOT TO OFFICIALLY
00:04:53BACK IT BECAUSE OF CONCERNS OVER
ITS CONSTITUTIONALITY.
00:04:57HEARTBEAT BILL SUPPORTERS HAVE
STARTED THEIR OWN POLITICAL
00:05:02ACTION COMMITTEE AND SEVERAL
LOCAL RIGHT TO LIFE GROUPS HAVE
00:05:04BROKEN AWAY FROM OHIO RIGHT TO
LIFE TO JOIN IT.
00:05:06OHIO HAS MADE A $400 MILLION
SALES PITCH TO LURE SEARS
00:05:12HOLDING COMPANY TO OHIO.
BUT GOV. JOHN KASICH, WHO'S
00:05:16NORMALLY QUITE CONFIDENT ABOUT
BUSINESS DEALINGS, CONTINUES TO
00:05:18BE VERY CAUTIOUS ABOUT OHIO'S
ABILITY TO DELIVER A DEAL.
00:05:20WHEN ASKED THIS WEEK IF HE WAS
HOPEFUL ABOUT GETTING THE
00:05:27RETAILER, KASICH RESPONDED --
>> NO, I'M STEADY ABOUT IT.
00:05:30IT'S SORT OF LIKE ALL THE, ALL
US FOOTBALL FANS FEEL ABOUT THE
00:05:35OPENING GAME OF THE SEASON.
WE'RE STEADY. WE'LL SEE WHAT
00:05:38HAPPENS.
>> HE WAS EVEN MORE DIRECT A FEW
00:05:42MOMENTS LATER.
>> IF I WERE BETTING, I'D BET
00:05:45THEY'RE NOT COMING TO OHIO.
BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN WE'RE NOT
00:05:47LOOKING AT THIS EVERY WHICH WAY
TO SUNDAY.
00:05:49>> THE $400 MILLION INCENTIVE
OHIO HAS OFFERED TO SEARS IS
00:05:53REPORTEDLY FOUR TIMES THE OFFER
ILLINOIS HAS MADE TO KEEP THE
00:05:56COMPANY THERE.
AUSTIN, TEXAS, IS ALSO
00:06:00REPORTEDLY IN THE RUNNING TO
LAND SEARS.
00:06:02A STATE OFFICE SAYS OHIO IS
TAKING IN MORE MONEY THAN
00:06:06EXPECTED WHILE SPENDING LESS
THAN WHAT WAS PROJECTED UNDER A
00:06:10STATE BUDGET PASSED EARLIER
THIS YEAR. NUMBERS FROM THE
00:06:12OFFICE OF MANAGEMENT AND BUDGET
SHOW THE STATE HAS TAKEN IN $96
00:06:15MILLION MORE IN TAXES THAN WHAT
WAS ESTIMATED IN THE BUDGET
00:06:18THAT TOOK EFFECT JULY 1.
MEANWHILE, THE OHIO HAS SPENT
00:06:24$268 MILLION LESS THAN
PROJECTED OUT OF THE FUND USED
00:06:26TO PAY FOR MOST OPERATIONS OF
THE STATE.
00:06:29HOWEVER, THE BUDGET OFFICE SAYS
CHANGES IN MEDICAID PAYMENTS
00:06:34HAVE DELAYED STATE
EXPENDITURES, WHICH COULD CATCH
00:06:37UP.
ONE WOULD THINK 2011 WOULD HAVE
00:06:40BEEN A GOOD YEAR FOR REPUBLICANS
IN OHIO.
00:06:42THE OHIO GOP SWEPT THE 2010
ELECTIONS WITH A TSUNAMI OF RED
00:06:45-- EVERY OFFICE ON THE
STATEWIDE BALLOT WENT
00:06:48REPUBLICAN, AND THE OHIO HOUSE
WAS TURNED BACK INTO REPUBLICAN
00:06:52HANDS.
THE SENATE WAS ALREADY FIRMLY IN
00:06:54THE GOP'S CONTROL. BUT AFTER
THE CONTROVERSY OVER SENATE BILL
00:06:575 AND THE DEFEAT OF ISSUE 2,
THE SPLIT WITHIN THE PRO-LIFE
00:07:02COMMUNITY OVER THE HEARTBEAT
BILL, THE LEGAL SKIRMISHES OVER
00:07:04JOBSOHIO AND THE SPAT OVER THE
CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT MAP,
00:07:08THIS HAS BECOME A CHALLENGING
YEAR FOR THOSE CLOSELY ALIGNED
00:07:11WITH THE PARTY STARTING WITH
THE MAN AT THE TOP.
00:07:14IT'S NO SECRET THAT OHIO GOP
CHAIR KEVIN DEWINE ISN'T BEST
00:07:19FRIENDS WITH GOV. JOHN KASICH.
KASICH ACTUALLY CALLED ON
00:07:22DEWINE TO RESIGN AFTER THE 2010
ELECTIONS, SO KASICH COULD
00:07:27INSTALL HIS OWN CANDIDATE AS
PARTY CHAIR.
00:07:31DISLIKE OF THE CHAIR'S
LEADERSHIP BECAME MORE OBVIOUS
00:07:34LAST WEEKEND, WHEN A LETTER
HOUSE SPEAKER BILL BATCHELDER
00:07:37WROTE TO DEWINE WENT PUBLIC.
IN HIS LETTER TO GOP CAUCUS
00:07:42MEMBERS, BATCHELDER ALL BUT
DEMANDS DEWINE RESIGN, WRITING
00:07:46ABOUT WHAT HE CALLS "MY DEEP
CONCERN ABOUT THE DIRECTION THE
00:07:49STATE CHAIRMAN IS LEADING OUR
PARTY."
00:07:51HE TARGETS A SPEECH DEWINE GAVE
TO THE REPUBLICAN PARTY STATE
00:07:55CENTRAL COMMITTEE, CALLING IT
AN "UNPROVOKED ATTACK". THE
00:07:57LETTER READS IN PART --
IN A SPEECH BEFORE A PUBLIC
00:08:03SESSION OF THE PARTY'S
GOVERNING BODY, THE CHAIRMAN
00:08:04ACCUSED OUR GOVERNOR'S TEAM OF
BEING MOTIVATED BY ARROGANCE
00:08:07AND PERSONAL PROFIT.
HE ALLEGED THAT GOVERNOR
00:08:12KASICH'S TEAM WAS ATTEMPTING TO
TAKE OVER THE PARTY FOR
00:08:13PERSONAL PROFIT, EGO AND POWER.
IT IS INCONCEIVABLE TO ME THAT
00:08:17THE OHIO REPUBLICAN PARTY
CHAIRMAN, WHOSE ROLE IS SUPPOSED
00:08:21TO BE SUPPORTING REPUBLICAN
EFFORTS, CANDIDATES, AND
00:08:22OFFICEHOLDERS, WOULD MAKE SUCH
BASELESS, NEGATIVE COMMENTS
00:08:25ABOUT OHIO'S GOVERNOR IN A
PUBLIC FORUM.
00:08:28BATCHELDER GOES ON TO CLAIM
THAT DEWINE UNDERMINED
00:08:33REPUBLICAN INCUMBENTS IN 2010 BY
PERSUADING DONORS NOT TO
00:08:35CONTRIBUTE TO THEIR CAMPAIGNS.
HE ALSO ACCUSES DEWINE OF
00:08:41REFUSING TO LEND PARTY
RESOURCES TO INCUMBENTS FACING
00:08:44PRIMARY CHALLENGERS AND REFUSING
TO ALLOW GOP HOUSE MEMBERS TO
00:08:49PARTICIPATE IN PARTY LEADERSHIP
MEETINGS, AND BLASTS HIM FOR
00:08:52PAYING 1.7 MILLION DOLLARS TO
TWO CONSULTANTS WHO WERE THE
00:08:55SUBJECTS OF FEDERAL
INVESTIGATIONS.
00:09:01DEWINE FIRED BACK, SAYING
BATCHELDER DIDN'T HEAR THE
00:09:03SPEECH AND APPARENTLY DIDN'T
READ IT, AND THAT IT APPEARED
00:09:05TO HIM THAT THE SPEAKER HAS, IN
DEWINE'S WORDS, "A GREAT DEAL
00:09:08OF HOSTILITY TOWARD THE OHIO
REPUBLICAN PARTY."
00:09:11AND DEWINE WRITES -- "I FEAR
THAT THOSE WHO ASKED FOR YOU TO
00:09:16SEND YOUR MEMO DON'T HAVE OUR
PARTY'S BEST INTERESTS AT
00:09:18HEART, AND THAT THEY ARE TRYING
TO MANIPULATE YOU."
00:09:21DEWINE SAYS THAT THE
ACCUSATIONS LEVELED AGAINST HIM
00:09:24WITH REGARD TO WITHHOLDING
SUPPORT FROM CANDIDATES ARE --
00:09:26QUOTING HERE -- "FLAT OUT
WRONG", AND HE NOTED THE
00:09:30CONSULTANTS WERE EXONERATED.
AND DEWINE ADDS --
00:09:32"MR. SPEAKER, I'M TROUBLED
THAT, INSTEAD OF CALLING ME
00:09:35DIRECTLY TO DISCUSS THE ISSUE,
YOU CHOSE TO CRITICIZE ME, THE
00:09:38STAFF OF THE OHIO REPUBLICAN
PARTY, AND MEMBERS OF THE STATE
00:09:42CENTRAL COMMITTEE IN A VERY
PUBLIC MANNER.
00:09:44AS YOU KNOW, I'VE TRIED TO REACH
OUT TO YOU OVER THE COURSE OF
00:09:47THE LAST YEAR AND A HALF.
YOU'VE NOT RETURNED A SINGLE
00:09:51CALL.
I WISH YOU WOULD."
00:09:52DEWINE, BATCHELDER AND KASICH
AREN'T TALKING ABOUT THE EMAILS.
00:09:54AND THEN THERE'S WHAT'S
HAPPENING ON THE DEMOCRATIC
00:09:59SIDE.
BOLSTERED BY A RECORD NUMBER OF
00:10:01SIGNATURES TO PUT SENATE BILL 5
ON THE BALLOT, AND THE
00:10:03SUBSEQUENT DEFEAT OF ISSUE 2,
DEMOCRATS ARE TRYING TWO MORE
00:10:07BALLOT CHALLENGES TO
LEGISLATION.
00:10:09THE FIRST IS THE ELECTION
REFORM PACKAGE KNOWN AS HOUSE
00:10:13BILL 194, WHICH SHORTENS THE
EARLY VOTING WINDOW AND MAKES
00:10:16SOME OTHER CHANGES THAT
DEMOCRATS FEEL MIGHT SUPPRESS
00:10:20THE VOTE. THE PARTY TURNED IN
MORE THAN 300-THOUSAND
00:10:23SIGNATURES THE WEEK OF
THANKSGIVING.
00:10:25THE SECOND IS THE BATTLE OVER
THE REPUBLICAN-DRAWN MAP OF
00:10:27CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICTS. THE
PARTY HAS UNTIL CHRISTMAS DAY
00:10:30TO TURN IN SIGNATURES TO PUT
THAT BEFORE VOTERS NEXT YEAR,
00:10:33AND THERE ARE REPORTS THE PARTY
IS RUNNING LOW ON MONEY AND
00:10:36HAVING TO RELY HEAVILY ON
VOLUNTEERS.
00:10:38FOR SOME ANALYSIS ON WHAT'S
HAPPENING WITHIN OHIO'S TWO
00:10:43MAJOR POLITICAL PARTIES, AS THE
2012 CAMPAIGNS GET UNDERWAY, I
00:10:47SOUGHT OUT TWO OF THE MOST
KNOWLEDGEABLE EXPERTS ON THE
00:10:50PARTIES IN OHIO.
PAUL BECK IS A POLITICAL SCIENCE
00:10:54PROFESSOR AT OHIO STATE
UNIVERSITY IN COLUMBUS AND THE
00:10:55FORMER CHAIR OF THE DEPARTMENT.
BECK SAYS HE THINKS THE LONG-
00:10:59STANDING FEUD BETWEEN THE
GOVERNOR AND THE OHIO GOP PARTY
00:11:02CHAIR IS STILL VERY MUCH ALIVE,
AND IT'S OBVIOUSLY TRICKLING
00:11:05DOWN TO OTHERS WITHIN THE PARTY
WHO ARE CHOOSING SIDES.
00:11:07>> THERE IS OBVIOUSLY JOSTLING
THAT GOES ON WITHIN A PARTICULAR
00:11:18PARTY.
THERE IS A CLASH OF AMBITION
00:11:21SOMETIMES.
GOVERNORS, SPEAKERS OF THE
00:11:23HOUSE, OTHER PEOPLE LIKE TO HAVE
PEOPLE THEY TRUST, THEIR ALLIES
00:11:30IN A POSITION AS POWERFUL AS THE
REPUBLICAN CHAIR OF THE STATE
00:11:35COMMITTEE.
THERE IS THAT KIND OF A CLASH
00:11:37THAT GOES ON.
THERE ARE SOME POLICY
00:11:39DISAGREEMENTS.
AND REMEMBER YEARS AGO WHEN
00:11:44SOCIAL CONSERVATIVES WANTED TO
TAKE OVER THE REPUBLICAN PARTY
00:11:47HERE IN OHIO.
THEY WERE MOUNTING CHALLENGES AT
00:11:51THE PRECINCT AWARD LEVELS.
THEY WANTED TO TRY TO INCREASE
00:11:56THEIR INFLUENCE ON THE STATE
COMMITTEE.
00:11:58ALTERNATELY, IT WAS NOT THAT
SUCCESSFUL.
00:12:01IT IS NOT SO MUCH AMBITION.
I AM NOT SURE WHAT THIS IS OVER.
00:12:09I DO NOT SEE POLICY
DISAGREEMENTS THERE.
00:12:13I THINK THIS IS A CLASH OF
AMBITION.
00:12:15THERE IS MORE AMBITION THAN
THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES TO SERVE
00:12:21THE AMBITIONS.
SO THIS IN FIGHTING BECOMES MORE
00:12:27PRONOUNCED.
LET ME ADD TO THAT -- YOU HAVE
00:12:30THE GOVERNOR AND THE SPEAKER OF
THE HOUSE WHO IN TERMS OF THEIR
00:12:35PERSONAL STYLES ARE VERY
COMBATIVE AND AGGRESSIVE.
00:12:37THAT MAY BE PART OF THE MIX AS
WELL.
00:12:39I DO NOT READ KEVIN DEWINE AS
BEING COMBATIVE OR AGGRESSIVE.
00:12:49HE IS MORE THE RECIPIENT OF
THIS.
00:12:51BUT WE ARE SEEING A PUSH HERE.
THE DECISIONS WILL BE MADE BY
00:12:56THE STATE CENTRAL COMMITTEE, AND
THEY ARE UP FOR REELECTION NEXT
00:12:59YEAR.
I THINK THE CHALLENGE NOW IS TO
00:13:03BE MET BY THE CENTRAL COMMITTEE
RIGHT NOW AND WE WILL SEE HOW
00:13:06THAT PLAYS OUT.
>> THOMAS SUDDES IS A PROFESSOR
00:13:11OF JOURNALISM AT OHIO UNIVERSITY
IN ATHENS AND A MEMBER OF THE
00:13:12EDITORIAL BOARD OF THE CLEVELAND
PLAIN DEALER, AND A FORMER
00:13:14STATEHOUSE REPORTER.
HE SAYS HE WAS SHOCKED THE FEUD
00:13:15WAS PLAYING OUT SO PUBLICLY.
>> USUALLY THE REPUBLICANS ARE
00:13:19THE PARTY OF "LET'S KEEP THE
FAMILY SECRETS FOR THE
00:13:21CHAIRMANSHIP."
I WAS SURPRISED MYSELF THIS
00:13:27BECAME PUBLIC.
ESPECIALLY NOW IN THE WAKE OF
00:13:31WHAT ONE WOULD PORTRAY AS A
SERIOUS DEFEAT OF THE GOVERNOR
00:13:36ON SENATE BILL 5 AND UNRESOLVED
DISCUSSIONS ON CONGRESSIONAL
00:13:39REDISTRICTING AND ALL MANNER OF
OTHER THINGS.
00:13:42IT IS SURPRISING.
IS THIS A SECRET THE GOVERNOR
00:13:46HAS WANTED A CHANGE IN THE
CHAIRMANSHIP.
00:13:47-- IT IS NO SECRET.
BUT THE TIMING -- UNLESS IT, AS
00:13:58A SUSPECT, IT HAS TO DO WITH THE
CENTRAL COMMITTEE FILINGS THE
00:14:01OTHER DAY.
>> YOU THINK THIS WILL COME DOWN
00:14:03TO THE CENTRAL COMMITTEE LEVEL?
>> I THINK LEGALLY, IT HAS TO
00:14:07COME DOWN TO THE CENTRAL
COMMITTEE CHOOSES THE CHAIR.
00:14:10ÑiWHAT HAPPENS?
I THINK YOU'RE PICKING YOUR
00:14:13CANDIDATES TO RUN FOR THE
CENTRAL COMMITTEE WOULD BE A KEY
00:14:16FACTOR OF HOW YOU GET THE
OUTCOME OF THE ELECTION FOR THE
00:14:19CHAIRMANSHIP.
>> BOTH BECK AND SUDDES AGREE
00:14:22THAT FOR MOST VOTERS -- EVEN
REPUBLICAN VOTERS -- THIS IS
00:14:23INSIDE BASEBALL. BUT BECK SAYS
FOR THOSE WHO ARE NOTICING AND
00:14:25WHO DO CARE, IT'S NOT A GOOD
IMAGE.
00:14:27>> IT PLAYS IN A VERY NEGATIVE
WAY, I THINK, TO THE
00:14:34POLARIZATION WE SEE IN POLITICS
TODAY.
00:14:36ONE RESPONSE MIGHT BE, THERE
THEY GO AGAIN.
00:14:40THEY CAN NOW GET ALONG WITH EACH
OTHER, EVEN WITHIN THE PARTY.
00:14:44I THINK THERE MAY BE THAT
QUESTION ALONG THE LINES OF SOME
00:14:51PEOPLE IN THE PUBLIC WHO ARE
PAYING MINIMAL ATTENTION TO
00:14:55THIS.
I THINK MOST PEOPLE DO NOT CARE.
00:14:57IT WILL GO AWAY.
ON THE OTHER HAND, FOR OHIO
00:15:02POLITICS, THE REPUBLICAN PARTY
ORGANIZATIONS, THE DEMOCRATIC
00:15:09PARTY ORGANIZATIONS ARE
IMPORTANT.
00:15:10THEY HAVE A LOT OF RESOURCES.
THEY CAN DEPLOY THOSE RESOURCES.
00:15:15HAVE ELECTION CAMPAIGNS AND PLAY
AN IMPORTANT ROLE IN 2012 AND
00:15:20BEYOND THAT.
OF COURSE, I THINK WHAT SPEAKER
00:15:23BATCHELDER AND GOV. KASICH ARE
TRYING TO DO IS PUT SOMEONE IN
00:15:31FOR THE REPUBLICAN PARTY THEY
ARE MORE COMFORTABLE WITH, I DO
00:15:35NOT KNOW FOR WHAT REASON.
>> SUDDES SAYS THIS BATTLE IS
00:15:39JUST ONE OF MANY SKIRMISHES
HAPPENING IN OHIO POLITICS THAT
00:15:41VOTERS ARE HAVING TO KEEP UP
WITH, AND HE THINKS MANY MIGHT
00:15:44BE CHECKING OUT.
>> WE ARE ASKING A LOT OF THE
00:15:52VOTERS TO BEGIN WITH.
WILL WILL LAST TWO PRIMARIES
00:15:55NEXT YEAR.
WE HAVE MANY OHIOANS DID NOT
00:16:01KNOW WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN AS
FAR AS REDISTRICTING.
00:16:04NOW WE HAVE A CONTEST THAT WILL
DETERMINE THE DIRECTION OF THE
00:16:07REPUBLICAN PARTY GOING INTO A
PRESIDENTIAL CAMPAIGN.
00:16:08IT IS QUITE A LOT FOR THE VOTER,
HOWEVER WELL INFORMED HE OR SHE
00:16:14IS.
THAT IS WHAT PUZZLES ME ABOUT
00:16:17THE TIMING.
OVERLOADING WITH INFORMATION.
00:16:21WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE, WHAT
SHOULD BE DONE.
00:16:24>> THIS SKIRMISH IS HAPPENING
WITHIN THE PARTY.
00:16:27PEOPLE ARE NOT GETTING ALONG
WITH THAN THE PARTI.
00:16:31>> I AM NOT SURE THE ORDINARY OR
REGULAR JOHN OR MARY CITIZEN
00:16:37VOTER CARES THAT MUCH.
MAYBE THEY SHOULD.
00:16:39I THINK THEY ARE MORE CONCERNED
ABOUT THE OVERALL ECONOMY,
00:16:42JOBS, THE PERFORMANCE OF STATE
GOVERNMENT.
00:16:44TO A REPUBLICAN COMMITTED
VOTERS, THE RANK AND FILE
00:16:52PEOPLE DID YOU GO OUT AND
EVERYTHING ELSE, IT CREATES A
00:16:56MORALE PROBLEM INTERNALLY, WHICH
I DO NOT KNOW THAT WILL.
00:17:00THAT COULD BE PROBLEMATIC FOR
PRESIDENTIAL CAMPAIGN OR
00:17:02REPUBLICAN NOMINEE NEXT YEAR.
>> ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE
00:17:05AISLE, DEMOCRATS ARE ENJOYING A
BIG WIN, BUT IT MAY NOT
00:17:09TRANSLATE TO VICTORIES ON BALLOT
ISSUES.
00:17:12>> IT IS DIFFICULT TO SAID.
ALTHOUGH OHIO IS A CLOSELY-
00:17:18DIVIDED STATE.
WE'RE VERY COMPETITIVE.
00:17:25I THINK REPUBLICANS -- DEMOCRATS
RATHER ARE UNDERSTANDABLY
00:17:31BILLING ENTHUSIASM OVER THERE
SENATE BILL 5 A FIGHT.
00:17:35THEY HAD A SUBSTANTIAL TURNOUT.
A BIG DEMOCRATIC TURNOUT
00:17:44GENERALLY IS A GOOD THING FOR
DEMOCRATS ON THEIR CANDIDATE
00:17:47RACES IN 2012.
>> COULD NOT BACKFIRE AS WELL IN
00:17:51THE SENSE THAT COULD VOTERS NOT
GET SICK OF THIS AND SAY, THIS
00:17:56IS WHAT WE HAVE LAWMAKERS THERE?
>> THAT IS A GOOD QUESTION.
00:18:01PART OF THE REASON WE HAVE THE
YOU CAN ARGUE THAT WE'RE HAVING
00:18:15THESE THINGS DECIDED BY
REFERENDUM BECAUSE THE
00:18:17LEGISLATORS ARE ADVOCATING -- AT
-- ABDICATING THEIR ABILITY TO
00:18:23MAKE TOUGH DECISIONS.
ON THE OTHER HAND, THE PLEDGE
00:18:29THAT LEGISLATORS OFTEN MAKE,
THEY WANT TO GO TO COLUMBUS,
00:18:32MAKE TOUGH DECISIONS.
I ARGUE THEY WANT TO DO ANYTHING
00:18:36BUT MAKE TOUGH DECISION.
>> BECK SAYS FEARS OF OVERKILL
00:18:41ON THE BALLOT MAY BE A REAL
CONCERN, BUT ADDS THAT VOTERS
00:18:43LIKE THE FEELING OF BEING IN
CONTROL OF THE PROCESS.
00:18:44>> THERE IS A MASTER PLANNER
PUTTING THESE THINGS ON THE
00:18:53BALLOT.
1 WAS -- ONE DOES HAVE TO WORRY
00:18:57IS THE MASTER PLANNER DOING IT?
THERE IS THAT QUESTION.
00:19:00ON THE OTHER HAND, I THINK
AMERICANS ARE VERY WEATHERED --
00:19:06VERY WEDDED TO THE IDEA OF
DIRECT DEMOCRACY.
00:19:11TRIED TO TAKE IT AWAY.
PEOPLE WILL REACT NEGATIVELY TO
00:19:17A.
IF YOU WANT TO THINK ABOUT THE
00:19:18BROADER QUESTION, REPRESENTATIVE
DEMOCRACY, WHERE WE ELECT PEOPLE
00:19:24TO MAKE POLICY DECISIONS FOR US
AND DIRECT DEMOCRACY WHERE WE
00:19:29USE VOTERS TO MAKE DECISIONS
OURSELVES -- REPRESENTATIVE
00:19:33DEMOCRACY IN THIS COUNTRY IS IN
CRISIS RIGHT NOW.
00:19:36YOU ONLY HAVE TO LOOK AT EUROPE
WHERE THEY HAVE MOVED AWAY FROM
00:19:41REPRESENTATIVE INSTITUTIONS AND
PUT TECHNOCRATS IN CHARGE IN
00:19:46ITALY, GREECE, MAY BE OTHER
COUNTRIES AS WELL TO SOLVE THE
00:19:50EURO CRISIS THERE.
CONGRESS IS AT ITS LOW POINT IN
00:19:56TERMS OF PUBLIC APPROVAL.
STATE LEGISLATORS CANNOT BE MUCH
00:20:02HIGHER THAN THAT RUN THE
COUNTRY.
00:20:03TO VOTE DOWN SENATE BILL 5 FOR
INSTANCE IS A SIGNIFICANT
00:20:08REBUKE OF WHAT THE LEGISLATURE
WOULD HAVE SEEN AS ONE OF ITS
00:20:13MAJOR ACCOMPLISHMENTS EARLIER IN
THE YEAR.
00:20:18REPRESENTATIVE DEMOCRACY IS
BEING CHALLENGED.
00:20:21AS A RESULT OF THAT, MANY OHIO
ANS MIGHT SAY, WE CAN MAKE THESE
00:20:31DECISIONS ON THE BALLOT
OURSELVES.
00:20:32>> AND BOTH SUDDES AND BECK
AGREE THAT OHIO WILL AGAIN BE
00:20:35BIG IN THE PRESIDENTIAL RACE
NEXT YEAR, WITH BOTH NATIONAL
00:20:37PARTIES WANTING TO WIN OHIO.
BECK SAYS WHAT'S HAPPENING
00:20:38WITHIN THE STATE PARTIES MAY NOT
PLAY A BIG ROLE IN THE
00:20:39PRESIDENTIAL CONTEST, EXCEPT
WITH THE GROUND GAME THAT BOTH
00:20:42HAVE DEVELOPED THROUGH THEIR
LOCAL CAMPAIGNING AND SIGNATURE
00:20:45GATHERING.
AND SUDDES SAYS BOTHñr STATE
00:20:49PARTIES WILL LIKELY FIND
THEMSELVES IN THE WORK OF A LOT
00:20:50OF STATE AND NATIONAL POLITICAL
PUNDITS, BECAUSE HE SAYS HE
00:20:54THINKS THERE WILL BE PLENTY OF
MATERIAL THAT STATE POLITICIANS
00:20:58WILL BE GIVING THEM TO WRITE
AND TALK ABOUT.
00:21:00HUNDREDS GATHERED THIS WEEK AT A
HOTEL IN DOWNTOWN COLUMBUS FOR
00:21:03A CONFERENCE WE PREVIEWED ON
THIS SHOW A FEW WEEKS AGO.
00:21:05"ACROSS THE SPECTRUM: THE
FUTURE OF OHIO AND THE PATH TO
00:21:08PROSPERITY" BROUGHT IN
POLITICAL OBSERVERS, LOBBYISTS
00:21:11AND LAWMAKERS -- FORMER AND
CURRENT, THOUGH NOT AS MANY
00:21:14INCUMBENTS AS THE ORGANIZERS HAD
HOPED.
00:21:16THE CONFERENCE HOPED TO BRING
TOGETHER PEOPLE WITH VERY
00:21:22DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVES TO TALK
ABOUT THE TOUGHEST ISSUES OUT
00:21:28THERE GOVERNMENT SPENDING,
STATE AND LOCAL TAXES,
00:21:29CONSOLIDATING GOVERNMENT,
PENSION REFORM AND HEALTH CARE
00:21:31WITH THE GOAL OF FINDING COMMON
GROUND TO PUSH FORWARD TOWARD
00:21:38SOLUTIONS.
BE HEADLINING AND OF THE DAY WAS
00:21:42A DUEL OF SORTS BETWEEN TWO
LEGENDARY NAMES IN THE NATIONAL
00:21:47ECONOMIC SPHERE -- A ECONOMIST
ARTHUR LAFFER AND FORMER CLINTON
00:21:52WHITE HOUSE BUDGET DIRECTOR
ALICE RIVLIN, WHO ADVISED THE
00:21:57CONGRESSIONAL SUPER COMMITTEE
THAT DEADLOCKED OVER A BUDGET
00:22:01CUTTING DEAL.
THE TWO DEBATED MANY TOPICS, BUT
00:22:04AT THE CLOSE OF THE RECESSION,
THE TWO WERE ASKED TO COME UP
00:22:07WITH ONE OPINION THEY WISH THEY
COULD CONVINCE THE OTHER TO
00:22:11SHARE.
>> I THINK THE THINGS THAT ARE
00:22:14THIRD SAYS THAT I DISAGREE WITH
THE MOST ASKED TO DO WITH THE
00:22:19EFFECT OF GOVERNMENT SPENDING.
I BELIEVE I AM RESPONSIBLE
00:22:24FISCAL POLICY AND IN GOVERNMENT
-- AND GOVERNMENT HAS TO PAY ITS
00:22:30BILLS, WHENEVER THEY ARE.
BUT I BELIEVE THAT MUCH
00:22:36GOVERNMENT SPENDING DOES A GREAT
DEAL OF GOOD IF IT IS WELL
00:22:40MANAGED, AND THE STIMULUS AT THE
RIGHT MOMENT, AND THE RIGHT
00:22:49MOMENT IS WHEN THE ECONOMY IS IN
FREEFALL AND THERE IS NO PRIVATE
00:22:57SPENDING.
YOU'RE NOT DIMINISHING PRIVATE
00:23:00SPENDING.
GOVERNMENT NEEDS TO PUT MONEY IN
00:23:04PEOPLE'S POCKETS SO THAT THEY
ARE NOT DESTROYED BY THE
00:23:12RECESSION AND THEY CAN SPEND IT
AND CREATE DEMAND.
00:23:14>> SHE TOOK THE WORDS OUT OF MY
MOUTH.
00:23:19I WANTED TO CONVINCE HER THE
OTHER WAY.
00:23:22WHENEVER PEOPLE MAKE DECISIONS
-- POLITICIANS MAKE DECISIONS --
00:23:26THEY ARE EITHER PANICKED OR
DRUG.
00:23:32THE CONSEQUENCES ARE RARELY
ATTRACTIVE.
00:23:35I REMEMBER CLINTON BECAME DOWN
FROM THE MOUNTAIN WITH THE
00:23:42TABLOIDS, IF YOU'LL REMEMBER,
THE JOB EVALUATION, I WATCHED
00:23:47THE DECISIONS WHEN THEY COLLUDED
ON WATERGATE.
00:23:52I WATCHED INFLATION NOW.
I WAS RIGHT THERE.
00:23:58YOU KNOW, I WATCHED WHEN JIMMY
CARTER DID THE ENERGY PLAN.
00:24:08I WOULD SAY HE MUST HAVE A SIX-
MONTH DELAY FUSE.
00:24:14THE OTHER THING I WOULD LIKE TO
SAY ON THAT IS, I WOULD LOVE TO
00:24:19SEE POLITICIANS PAID ON
COMMISSION.
00:24:22[LAUGHTER]
I THINK THEY SHOULD BE JUST LIKE
00:24:28EXECUTIVES.
GIVE THEM A SHADOW PORTFOLIO OF
00:24:31$5 MILLION.
KEEP ALL CAPITAL GAINS TAX FREE.
00:24:36IN THEIR PERSONALLY LIABLE FOR
ALL THE CAPITAL LOSSES.
00:24:39IF THEY HAD TO BEAR THE
CONSEQUENCES OF THEIR OWN
00:24:41ACTIONS, THEY WOULD NOT VOTE THE
WAY THEY DO.
00:24:43NEED TO GET THEM TO GET IN THE
GAME AND MAKE GOOD DECISIONS IN
00:24:48MY VIEW.
>> WE HOPE TO BRING YOU MORE
00:24:50HIGHLIGHTS ON A LATER SHOW.
THAT IS IT FOR THIS WEEK.
00:24:55FROM MY COLLEAGUES AT OHIO
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>> THIS HAS BEEN ONE OF THE
00:25:46BIGGEST YEARS OF OHIO POLITICS
IN RECENT HISTORY.
00:25:50OUR RECORDS STATE BUDGET DEFICIT
RESOLVE WITHOUT A TAX INCREASE.
00:25:54A CONTROVERSIAL STATE LAW
REPEALED.
00:25:56AND AT THE END OF THE YEAR,
THERE STILL NUMB OUT OF THE
00:25:59CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICTS.
NEXT YEAR PROMISES TO BE ANOTHER
00:26:02BIG YEAR AND STATE AND NATIONAL
POLITICS AS WELL.
00:26:04WE WILL START OUR LOOK FORWARD
AND BACK WITH A TALK WITH THE
00:26:08LEADERS OF THE OHIO SENATE, NEXT
TIME ON "IS STABLE I A."
00:26:10>> SUPPORT FOR THE STATEWIDE
BROADCAST OF "THE STATE OF OHIO"
00:26:20COMES FROM THE LAW OFFICES OF --
HELPING INDIVIDUALS AND
00:26:25BUSINESSES SOLVE COMPLEX LEGAL
PROBLEMS ACROSS THE OHIO AND
00:26:31AROUND THE WORLD.
AND FROM THE HIGHER EDUCATION
00:26:33ASSOCIATION REPRESENTING 131,000
TEACHERS, SUPPORT PROFESSIONALS
00:26:39, AND HIGHER EDUCATION FACULTY
WERE WORKING FOR GREAT PUBLIC
00:26:42SCHOOLS FOR EVERY JOB.
ADDITIONAL SUPPORT FOR THE STATE
00:26:46OF OHIO IS MADE POSSIBLE BY
ETECH OHIO.
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