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KAREN: THE BUDGET GOES TO
00:00:32CONFERENCE COMMITTEE, WITH JUST
DAYS LEFT UNTIL IT NEEDS TO BE
00:00:34SIGNED AND IN PLACE.
ONE LAWMAKER HAS PUT OUT HIS OWN
00:00:37BUDGET TO EXPLAIN WHY HE VOTED
AGAINST THE ONE HIS COLLEAGUES
00:00:39HAD PROPOSED.
AND ONE THING THAT'S MISSING
00:00:43FROM THE BUDGET -- AN INCREASE
IN FUNDING FOR PUBLIC
00:00:45TRANSPORTATION.
WE'LL LOOK INTO WHY AND WHAT
00:00:47MIGHT BE COMING DOWN THE ROAD
FOR TRAINS, BUSES AND OTHER
00:00:50FORMS OF PUBLIC TRANSIT.
ALL THIS WEEK IN "THE STATE OF
00:00:52OHIO."
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00:01:02KAREN: THERE ARE TWO VERSIONS OF
THE STATE BUDGET THAT HAVE BEEN
00:01:08APPROVED, AND TIME IS GROWING
SHORT TO RECONCILE THEM AND
00:01:10COMBINE THEM INTO ONE BEFORE THE
END OF THE FISCAL YEAR.
00:01:12THE $71.3 BILLION SENATE BUDGET
PASSED ON THURSDAY AFTERNOON, A
00:01:15DAY AFTER IT WAS EXPECTED TO GO
THROUGH AND A DAY AFTER SOME
00:01:19LAST MINUTE CHANGES THAT ANGERED
DEMOCRATS.
00:01:22THE BUDGET WENT THROUGH THE
FINANCE COMMITTEE ON WEDNESDAY
00:01:24WITH LAST-MINUTE RESTRICTIONS
THAT COULD FORCE ABORTION
00:01:27CLINICS IN DAYTON AND TOLEDO TO
CLOSE, AND RESTRICTIONS ON
00:01:29CERTAIN HOME-HEALTH AND CHILD
CARE WORKERS TO UNIONIZE.
00:01:35WHEN THE BUDGET GOT TO THE
FLOOR, DEMOCRATS TRIED TO CHANGE
00:01:37THOSE PROVISIONS WITH MORE THAN
20 PROPOSED AMENDMENTS THAT
00:01:49WOULD HAVE ADDED REFORMED
CHARTER SCHOOL LAWS, WOULD HAVE
00:01:52ADDED FUNDING FOR LOCAL
GOVERNMENTS, MENTAL HEALTH AND
00:01:54ADULT PROTECTIVE SERVICES, AND
WOULD HAVE RESTORED THE
00:01:56REQUIREMENT THAT PHONE COMPANIES
HAVE TO OFFER LAND LINES, AMONG
00:01:58OTHER THINGS.
NEARLY ALL OF THOSE AMENDMENTS
00:02:00WERE REJECTED BY MAJORITY
REPUBLICANS.
00:02:01THE BUDGET IS NOW IN THE HANDS
OF THE CONFERENCE COMMITTEE,
00:02:10MADE UP OF SIX MEMBERS --
REPUBLICAN SENATORS SCOTT
00:02:11OELSLAGER OF CANTON AND BILL
COLEY OF WEST CHESTER NEAR
00:02:12CINCINNATI, REPUBLICAN
REPRESENTATIVES RYAN SMITH OF
00:02:14BIDWELL NEAR GALLIPOLIS AND KIRK
SCHURING OF CANTON, AND THE
00:02:17DEMOCRATS, SENATOR MICHAEL
SKINDELL OF LAKEWOOD NEAR
00:02:18CLEVELAND AND REPRESENTATIVE
DENISE DRIEHAUS OF CINCINNATI.
00:02:20WHILE THERE ARE ONLY A FEW DAYS
BEFORE THE END OF THE FISCAL
00:02:22YEAR ON JUNE 30, THERE ARE SOME
MAJOR THINGS THE HOUSE AND
00:02:23SENATE BUDGETS HAVE IN COMMON.
THEY HAVE THE SAME 6.3%
00:02:29ACROSS-THE-BOARD INCOME TAX CUT.
THE MONEY FOR K-12 EDUCATION IS
00:02:32CLOSE IN BOTH BUDGETS, WITH
PER-PUPIL SPENDING AT $5,800 IN
00:02:37THE FIRST YEAR AND $6,000 IN THE
SECOND.
00:02:40AND BOTH BUDGETS ACCEPT FEDERAL
FUNDING TO KEEP MEDICAID
00:02:43EXPANSION GOING, THOUGH MANY
REPUBLICANS HAVE NOT BEEN FANS
00:02:44OF IT.
BUT THERE ARE SOME KEY
00:02:48DIFFERENCES.
THE SENATE BUDGET HAS MORE TAX
00:02:50CUTS AND A FLAT TAX PROPOSAL FOR
SMALL BUSINESSES, IT HAS A
00:02:54TOBACCO TAX, AND IT HAS A RAISE
FOR JUDGES, PROSECUTORS,
00:02:58SHERIFFS AND OTHER LOCAL
OFFICIALS.
00:03:00AND THE SENATE PLAN RESTORED
MEDICAID BENEFITS TO PREGNANT
00:03:03WOMEN MAKING UP TO 200% OF THE
FEDERAL POVERTY LEVEL.
00:03:06THE CONFERENCE COMMITTEE MET ON
FRIDAY AND WILL VOTE ON TUESDAY
00:03:09OR WEDNESDAY, AND THAT VOTE WILL
BE LIVE ON THE OHIO CHANNEL.
00:03:13ONE OTHER THING THAT THE HOUSE
AND SENATE BUDGETS HAVE IN
00:03:16COMMON IS ONCE AGAIN, THERE IS
NO INCREASE IN THE STATE'S $0.20
00:03:19A BARREL TAX ON OIL AND NATURAL
GAS DRILLERS, THOUGH GOVERNOR
00:03:22JOHN KASICH HAS WANTED THAT TAX
HIKED FOR AT LEAST THE LAST
00:03:25THREE YEARS.
AND SENATE PRESIDENT KEITH FABER
00:03:28SAYS THE IDEA WON'T COME BACK AT
LEAST UNTIL A NEWLY CREATED
00:03:31BIPARTISAN TASK FORCE OF
LAWMAKERS DELIVERS A REPORT ON
00:03:33IT BY OCTOBER 1.
SO NOW, THE PRESSURE OF A BUDGET
00:03:38DEADLINE IS GONE, BUT FABER SAYS
THIS NEW TASK FORCE AND DEADLINE
00:03:43IS NOT JUST, USING HIS WORDS, A
STALLING TACTIC.
00:03:48>> WE PUT THE HARD DEADLINE IN
THERE FOR A SINGLE PURPOSE.
00:03:50THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO ARGUE THAT
THIS IS JUST AN ONGOING DELAYING
00:03:53TACTIC.
I DON'T BELIEVE THAT TO BE THE
00:03:55CASE.
EVERYBODY AGREED THAT THE DATES
00:03:57ARE THERE FOR A REASON, TO MAKE
SURE THAT WE JUST GET AROUND
00:04:00THAT ARGUMENT.
KAREN: AND SENATE WAYS AND MEANS
00:04:03CHAIR BOB PETERSON OF SABINA
SAID THE TASK FORCE WILL HAVE
00:04:06MUCH TO TALK ABOUT.
>> THERE'S A LOT OF OPTIONS.
00:04:09BUT I WE'RE GOING TO STEP BACK A
LITTLE BIT.
00:04:14BUT I THINK, ULTIMATELY, WE'RE
GOING TO COME TO A PLAN THAT'S
00:04:16SIMPLE.
I THINK IT PROBABLY WILL HAVE A
00:04:17HIGHER RATE.
AND I THINK THE IMPORTANT THING,
00:04:19PROBABLY THE THING I'VE
FORGOTTEN TO SAY AND WE'VE ALL
00:04:21FORGOTTEN TO SAY IS THAT THE OIL
AND GAS INDUSTRY IS VERY
00:04:23IMPORTANT TO OHIO.
AND WE NEED TO MAKE SURE
00:04:26WHATEVER PLAN WE DO ALLOWS THAT
OIL AND GAS INDUSTRY TO CONTINUE
00:04:28TO GROW, CONTINUE TO PROSPER.
KAREN: THERE WERE NO
00:04:31REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE KASICH
ADMINISTRATION AT THE NEWS
00:04:33CONFERENCE, BUT PEOPLE FROM THE
OHIO OIL AND GAS ASSOCIATION AND
00:04:38THE AMERICAN PETROLEUM INSTITUTE
WERE THERE.
00:04:40THEY DISTRIBUTED STATEMENTS
PRAISING LAWMAKERS FOR TAKING
00:04:45THE TAX HIKE ON OIL AND GAS
DRILLERS OUT OF THE BUDGET AND
00:04:49FOR CREATING THIS TASK FORCE TO
TALK ABOUT IT, BUT THEY ALSO
00:04:51MADE IT CLEAR THAT THE INDUSTRY
REMAINS OPPOSED TO THE IDEA.
00:04:53AT THIS POINT, THERE HAVE BEEN
THREE VERSIONS OF THE BUDGET --
00:04:55GOVERNOR KASICH'S INITIAL
PROPOSAL, THE HOUSE-PASSED
00:04:57VERSION, AND THE SENATE'S
REVISION OF THAT PLAN.
00:04:59BUT THERE'S A FOURTH BUDGET OUT
THERE.
00:05:02THIS ALTERNATIVE BUDGET WON'T
MAKE TO A FINANCE COMMITTEE
00:05:06HEARING OR TO A FLOOR VOTE ON
ITS OWN, BUT THAT DIDN'T STOP
00:05:08THE CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICAN
REPRESENTATIVE WHO CREATED IT
00:05:10FROM BRINGING IT FORWARD.
REPRESENTATIVE JOHN BECKER OF
00:05:12CINCINNATI SAYS HIS ALTERNATIVE
BUDGET SLOWS STATE SPENDING
00:05:16GROWTH BY $1.3 BILLION, IT
PHASES OUT THE STATE INCOME TAX
00:05:20OVER THE NEXT FIVE YEARS, IT
ELIMINATES MEDICAID EXPANSION,
00:05:24IT DEFUNDS PLANNED PARENTHOOD,
IT ERASES THE SO-CALLED MARRIAGE
00:05:28IN PENALTY IN THE STATE INCOME
TAX CODE, AND IT PREVENTS
00:05:31DOUBLE-DIPPING IN GOVERNMENT
PENSION SYSTEMS.
00:05:33I'M PLEASED TO WELCOME
REPRESENTATIVE JOHN BECKER TO
00:05:36THE SHOW.
HE VOTED AGAINST THE HOUSE
00:05:42VERSION OF THE BUDGET WHEN IT
CAME OUT.
00:05:43IS THIS ALTERNATIVE BUDGET YOU
ARE EXPLANATION -- YOU ARE
00:05:49R EXPLANATION?
REPRESENTATIVE BECKER: I THOUGHT
00:05:57I WOULD COME OUT WITH ONE.
HE HAS TALKED ABOUT THIS STORY.
00:05:59WHEN HE INTRODUCED THE KASICH
BUDGET, HE INSPIRED ME.
00:06:05SOMEDAY I WILL DO THE BECKER
BUDGET.
00:06:09THIS HOUSE BILL IS SORT OF THE
BECKER BUDGET.
00:06:13IT FUNCTIONS MORE LIKE AN
AMENDMENT TO HOUSE BILL 64.
00:06:18KAREN: YOU SAY YOU ARE BUDGET
WOULD BRING SOME SANITY BACK TO
00:06:24STATE SPENDING.
WHAT IS INSANE IN THE CURRENT
00:06:27BUDGETS OUT THERE?
REPRESENTATIVE BECKER: WHAT'S
00:06:31INSANE ISN'T SPENDING MONEY AT
TRIPLE THE INFLATION RATE -- IS
00:06:38SPENDING MONEY AT TRIPLE THE
INFLATION RATE.
00:06:39I WANT TO BRING BACK SPENDING TO
SOME MORE REASONABLE LEVEL.
00:06:42THE INFLATION RATE IS A
REASONABLE LEVEL.
00:06:45NOT ALL LINE ITEMS INCREASE AT
THE RATE OF INFLATION.
00:06:50WE HAVE DEBT MAINTENANCE WE HAVE
TO PAY ON BOND, PRINTABLE AND
00:06:56INTEREST.
I TOOK THOSE TWO OUT AND SAID
00:06:59EVERYTHING ELSE, LET'S INCREASE
AT THE INFLATION RATE AND USE IT
00:07:08TO WHERE WE ARE TODAY.
WITH THE DEBT MAINTENANCE AND
00:07:14MEDICAID, I TOOK THE SAME
NUMBERS THE HOUSE PASSED.
00:07:15KAREN: YOU WOULD CALL FOR A
PHASEOUT OF THE STATE INCOME TAX
00:07:21OVER FIVE YEARS.
YOU'VE SAID YOU WANT TO GET RID
00:07:25OF ALL BUSINESS TAXES HERE.
IF YOU GET RID OF THE STATE
00:07:26INCOME TAX FOR INDIVIDUAL
RATEPAYERS AND BUSINESSES, HOW
00:07:31DO YOU FUND THE STATE
GOVERNMENT?
00:07:33HOW DO YOU FUND MEDICAID AND
PRISONS AND EDUCATION UNTIL THE
00:07:39THINGS -- AND ALL THESE THINGS?
REPRESENTATIVE BECKER: I
00:07:44PRIMARILY RELY ON THE SALES TAX.
THAT'S THE BIGGEST TAX FOR STATE
00:07:47FUNDING.
I WOULD NOT WANT TO SEE THAT
00:07:50INCREASED SUBSTANTIALLY.
THERE'S NO SUCH THING AS A GOOD
00:07:52TAX.
WHICH TAXES ARE THE WORST AND
00:07:56LET'S GET RID OF THOSE FIRST.
THE CAP TAX IS THE WORST.
00:07:59I HAD AN AMENDMENT FOR HOUSE
BILL 64.
00:08:05THEY DID NOT TAKE A LOT OF
INTEREST IN IT.
00:08:09I MOVED ON FROM THAT.
THE GOVERNOR HAS TALKED ABOUT
00:08:14WANTING TO GET RID OF THE INCOME
TAX.
00:08:15I HATE THE INCOME TAX.
I THOUGHT I WOULD PLUG-IN THE
00:08:19FIVE-YEAR PLAN TO GET RID OF THE
INCOME TAX AND HOUSE BILL 257.
00:08:22KAREN: WE'VE HEARD COMPLAINTS
ABOUT THE GOVERNOR'S BUDGET IN
00:08:25THE SHIPPING -- SHIFTING.
YOU HURT PEOPLE AT THE BOTTOM OF
00:08:32THE SCALE HARDEST.
HOW DO YOU EXPLAIN WHY THAT
00:08:36WOULD BE OK TO ELIMINATE ALL
INCOME TAXES AND SHIPPED THE
00:08:39BURDEN ON SALES TAX?
REPRESENTATIVE BECKER: WHEN YOU
00:08:43GET INTO THE REGRESSIVE THE OF
TAXATION, THERE'S SOME TRUTH TO
00:08:48THAT.
SOCIAL SECURITY TAX OR ANYTHING
00:08:52THAT'S A PLATE TAX -- FLAT TAX
-- THERE'S STUFF THAT MITIGATES
00:08:57THAT.
WE DON'T TAX FOOD AND WE DON'T
00:09:00TAX PRESCRIPTION DRUGS.
EVERYBODY SHOULD HAVE SOME SKIN
00:09:04IN THE GAME.
IF PEOPLE DON'T LIKE PAYING
00:09:10TAXES, LET'S WORK TOGETHER TO
ELIMINATE STATE SPENDING.
00:09:12KAREN: YOU'VE TALKED ABOUT
MEDICAID EXPANSION -- A LOT ARE
00:09:19CONCERNED ABOUT MEDICAID
EXPANSION BECAUSE IT'S PART OF
00:09:21THE AFFORDABLE CARE ACT.
GOVERNOR KASICH HAS SAID IT'S
00:09:24NOT AND HE SAYS IT'S HELPING
PEOPLE GET BACK TO HEALTH, TO
00:09:29KICK DRUG ADDICTIONS AND BE PART
OF THE WORKFORCE AND THEREFORE
00:09:31GET THAT SKIN IN THE GAME.
WHY CHANGE MEDICAID EXPANSION
00:09:35WHEN THE GOVERNOR AND OTHERS SAY
IT'S WORKING TO HELP PEOPLE MOVE
00:09:39OUT OF THE SHADOWS AND MOVE BACK
INTO THE WORK FORCE?
00:09:42REPRESENTATIVE BECKER: I'VE HAD
A LOT OF PEOPLE CORNER ME ON
00:09:45THIS ISSUE, SELLING ME ON THE
IDEA MEDICAID EXPANSION.
00:09:48A COUPLE OF PROBLEMS WITH IT --
IT'S A HUGE EXPENSE.
00:09:52THE MEDICAID PROGRAM IS
CONSIDERED ONE OF THE MOST
00:09:57CORRUPT THE LEAST EFFICIENT OF
ANY GOVERNMENT PROGRAM.
00:10:02TO EXPAND ON SOMETHING THAT'S
BAD CAN'T BE GOOD.
00:10:07THERE'S ALTERNATIVES TO MEDICAID
EXPANSION.
00:10:13FEDERALLY QUALIFIED HEALTH
CENTERS.
00:10:19THERE'S OTHER DEPARTMENT OF
HEALTH PLACES, FREE CLINICS.
00:10:24THERE'S WAYS FOR PEOPLE OUT
THERE TO GET TREATMENT.
00:10:28KAREN: BUT THESE ARE NOT FREE.
NOTHING IS FREE, RIGHT?
00:10:31REPRESENTATIVE BECKER: SOMEBODY
IS PAYING FOR IT.
00:10:33PEOPLE PAY WHAT THEY CAN.
THERE ARE TAX DOLLARS THAT GO
00:10:40INTO SUPPORTING THESE THINGS.
KAREN: BECKER SAYS THIS ISN'T A
00:10:45FULL BUDGET, BUT HE WOULD LIKE
IT TO BE CONSIDERED AS AN
00:10:46AMENDMENT TO THE BUDGET AND THAT
ITS PROVISIONS WILL BE
00:10:48CONSIDERED BY THE CONFERENCE
COMMITTEE THAT WILL WORK OUT THE
00:10:49DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THE HOUSE
AND SENATE BUDGETS.
00:10:51AS THE CLOCK TICKS DOWN TO THE
SIGNING OF THE BUDGET AND THE
00:10:53END OF THE FISCAL YEAR, AND MANY
ARE HOPING THOSE THINGS HAPPEN
00:10:55IN THAT ORDER, REPORTERS,
PUNDITS, ANALYSTS AND ACTIVISTS
00:10:57ARE STILL LOOKING AT THE HUGE
TWO YEAR SPENDING PLAN TO LEARN
00:10:59MORE ABOUT WHAT'S ACTUALLY IN
IT.
00:11:02ONE THING THAT'S NOT IN IT -- AN
INCREASE IN FUNDING FOR THE
00:11:04STATE'S 61 PUBLIC TRANSIT
SITUATIONS IN THE STATE.
00:11:08GOVERNOR JOHN KASICH'S INITIAL
BUDGET HAD A $1 MILLION
00:11:11INCREASE, BUT THAT WAS TAKEN OUT
BY THE HOUSE AND NOT PUT BACK BY
00:11:13THE SENATE.
THAT'S NOT A LOT OF MONEY IN A
00:11:18$70 MILLION DOLLAR BUDGET, AND
-- $70 BILLION BUDGET, AND
00:11:27ARGUABLY IT MIGHT NOT DO MUCH TO
HELP PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION.
00:11:29AND ADVOCATES HAVE POINTED TO A
STUDY THAT SHOWS OHIO IS 40TH IN
00:11:31THE COUNTRY IN HOW MUCH IT
SPENDS ON PUBLIC TRANSIT, BUT
00:11:33EVEN SOME OF THOSE SUPPORTERS
SAY THERE'S NO WAY TO REALLY
00:11:34COMPARE WHAT STATES SPEND ON
BUSES AND TRAINS.
00:11:38TO TALK ABOUT THE STATE'S
SPENDING ON PUBLIC
00:11:39TRANSPORTATION IN THE BUDGET AND
BEYOND, I'M VERY PLEASED TO BE
00:11:41JOINED THIS WEEK BY
REPRESENTATIVE CHERYL GROSSMAN,
00:11:43A REPUBLICAN OF GROVE CITY AND
THE HOUSE TRANSPORTATION
00:11:46SUBCOMMITTEE CHAIR, AND GENE
KREBS, A REPUBLICAN FORMER
00:11:48MEMBER OF THE OHIO HOUSE OF
REPRESENTATIVES AND WHO NOW
00:11:50SPEAKS OUT ON A VARIETY OF
POLICY ISSUES, ESPECIALLY
00:11:52TRANSPORTATION.
WELCOME.
00:11:58ODOT HAD A STUDY THAT SHOWED
THE AGENCY SHOULD ASK FOR $2.5
00:12:09MILLION INCREASE IN THE BUDGET.
GOVERNOR KASICH ASKED FOR A $1
00:12:13MILLION INCREASE.
WHY WAS THAT NOT ASKED FOR?
00:12:18THE MILLION DOLLAR INCREASE, WHY
DID THAT COME OUT OF THE HOUSE
00:12:23VERSION OF THE BUDGET?
REPRESENTATIVE GROSSMAN: THERE
00:12:26WAS ALSO A STUDY RELEASED BY
ODOT IN JANUARY THAT RECOMMENDED
00:12:32$96 MILLION OVERALL.
I CANNOT SPEAK FOR THE GOVERNOR
00:12:38AND WHAT WAS DONE THERE, BUT I
CAN TELL YOU, I'VE BEEN HOSTING
00:12:42OFF-SITE TRANSPORTATION MEETINGS
FOR THE LAST 10 MONTHS WITH
00:12:45REPRESENTATIVES ACROSS THE
STATE.
00:12:46WE HAVE A WONDERFUL ADVOCATE BY
THE NAME OF JOE CALABRESE WITH
00:12:55ITA THAT HAS DONE A WONDERFUL
JOB EDUCATING ME ON OUR
00:13:00SHORTFALL IN PUBLIC
TRANSPORTATION.
00:13:03YOU THINK ABOUT THE MILLENNIALS
AND THEIR APPEAL TO HAVE PUBLIC
00:13:13TRANSPORTATION AVAILABLE AND OUR
SENIORS, GETTING PEOPLE TO THEIR
00:13:14JOBS.
WE ARE UNDERFUNDED IN OHIO ON
00:13:19THIS PARTICULAR SUBJECT.
I'M REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO
00:13:29HELPING INTO THAT MUCH DEEPER
BECAUSE IT DESERVES AND SHOULD
00:13:29HELPING INTO THAT MUCH DEEPER
BECAUSE IT DESERVES AND SHOULD
00:13:34RECEIVE THE RESPECT AND
I'M REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO
00:13:34RECEIVE THE RESPECT AND
ATTENTION OF THE LEGISLATURE AS
00:13:37WE MOVE FORWARD.
KAREN: THERE ARE A LOT OF
00:13:44COMPETING INTERESTS IN THIS
BUDGET.
00:13:45THERE WAS THE ARGUMENT THAT
ADVOCATES FOR PUBLIC TRANSIT DID
00:13:47NOT MAKE THE CASE FOR THE
INCREASE IN SPENDING ON PUBLIC
00:13:51TRANSPORTATION.
HOW DO YOU MAKE THAT CASE?
00:13:53GENE KREBS: THERE'S A STRONG
CASE TO BE MADE AND YOU HIT UPON
00:13:59ONE OF THE MAIN PROBLEMS.
THE AVERAGE -- COMING OUT AND
00:14:05ASKING CLEARLY THIS IS WHAT WE
ARE ASKING FOR.
00:14:06THIS IS THE IMPACT OF IT.
I HAVE TO GO BACK TO WHERE DO WE
00:14:12RANK COMPARED TO THE OTHER
STATES.
00:14:13FOR US TO BECOME AVERAGE WOULD
BE A TREMENDOUS ADVANCE.
00:14:17THE STATE MOTTO OF OHIO SHOULD
NOT BE OHIO, WE ARE MEDIOCRE AND
00:14:23VAGUELY SATISFIED WITH THINGS.
THAT'S WHERE WE ARE WITH PUBLIC
00:14:28TRANSPORTATION.
WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE SOLUTIONS,
00:14:33WE JUST DONE A VIDEO ON THE
IMPACT OF THE AGING POPULATION.
00:14:35WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE FACT THAT
THERE ARE WHOLE AREAS OF OHIO
00:14:42WITH ONE THIRD THE POPULATION
AGE 50 AND OLDER AND WE ARE
00:14:49TALKING URBAN DEMOCRAT AREAS AND
REPUBLICAN RURAL AREAS AND
00:14:50DIFFERENT NEEDS, THAT'S WHY ODOT
JUST COMPLETED A TRANSIT STUDY,
00:15:02THEY ARE CALLING FOR CLOSE TO
$100 MILLION OF FUNDING, BUT
00:15:09ALSO KNOWLEDGE AND THAT AS WE
AGE IN PLACE, THIS WILL BECOME A
00:15:13LARGER AND LARGER ISSUE.
AFTER YOU TURN 80, YOUR
00:15:16ACCIDENTS REALLY START TO BECOME
MUCH MORE OF A FACTOR.
00:15:21WE GET INTO A LOT OF THESE
DEMOGRAPHIC ISSUES.
00:15:24WE WILL HAVE TO FIX IT.
I COMMEND THE HOUSE FOR STICKING
00:15:28TO THEIR GUNS ON THIS FUNDING
TASK FORCE AND GOOD LUCK WITH
00:15:35THAT.
ODOT IS DOOMED RIGHT NOW.
00:15:37THERE'S A LOT OF POINTS TO
CONSIDER.
00:15:41WE'RE SPENDING 60% PER RESIDENT
-- THEY ARE $25 PER RESIDENT.
00:15:55WE CANNOT COMPETE.
-- WE'RE SPENDING $.60 PER
00:16:00RESIDENT.
2.6% WENT TO NON-FREEWAY TYPES
00:16:11OF PROJECTS.
THAT'S FOR PUBLIC TRANSIT, FOR
00:16:16RAIL, AIRPORTS.
WE NEED TO STEP UP TO THE PLATE
00:16:22IF WE ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO
ADVERTISE THIS AS A LOGISTICS
00:16:24STATE.
IT'S IMPORTANT FOR ECONOMIC
00:16:26DEVELOPMENT.IT
KAREN: MAYBE THE ADVOCATES DID
00:16:37NOT MAKE THE CASE AS WELL AND
YOU ARE LEARNING ABOUT THAT NOW.
00:16:38REPRESENTATIVE GROSSMAN: THE
ADVOCATES HAVE BEEN OUTSTANDING
00:16:42AS PART SHARING THEIR STORIES.
WE COME FROM A WORLD WHERE
00:16:45PEOPLE DON'T DEPEND ON PUBLIC
TRANSPORTATION.
00:16:47LEGISLATORS DRIVE IN FROM THEIR
DISTRICTS.
00:16:50I DON'T THINK THEY APPRECIATE OR
QUITE COMPREHEND HOW IMPORTANT
00:16:55THAT IS TO A LOT OF DIFFERENT
PEOPLE.
00:16:56WE NEED TO EDUCATE THEM.
I WILL CONTINUE TO DO ALL I CAN
00:17:03TO ADVOCATE IN THAT REGARD.
KAREN: THE WHOLE IDEA OF PUBLIC
00:17:06TRANSIT BEING FUNDED, BUT IT
DOES NOT GET USED.
00:17:10YOU SEE HALF EMPTY BUSES.
THE WHOLE IDEA OF PASSENGER
00:17:15RAIL.
WHY SPEND ALL THIS MONEY PEOPLE
00:17:16ARE NOT GOING TO USE THAT?
GENE KREBS: WE NEED TO PUT A LOT
00:17:21MORE MONEY INTO PUBLIC TRANSIT.
THE PUBLIC TRANSIT ENTITIES
00:17:26NEEDED TO DO A BETTER JOB OF
COLLABORATION AND SHARING
00:17:28SERVICES.
IN NORTHEAST OHIO, ACCORDING TO
00:17:32-- THEY HAVE 200 ENTITIES,
GOVERNMENT AGENCIES, NONPROFITS,
00:17:41VARIOUS GROUPS THAT PROVIDE SOME
FORM OF PUBLIC TRANSIT.
00:17:42THEY SHOULD HAVE AN UBER TYPE OF
APP.
00:17:58I SIT ON THE COUNCIL THAT
OVERSEES THE FUND.
00:18:02IT'S SUPPOSED TO PAY LOCAL
GOVERNMENTS TO SHARE SERVICES
00:18:06AND COLLABORATE.
WE GET ALMOST NO PUBLIC TRANSIT
00:18:09ENTITIES THAT APPLY.
THERE IS A TARGET RICH
00:18:15ENVIRONMENT FROM THE FUNDING
SIDE.
00:18:16I WANT TO EMPHASIZE SOMETHING
THE REPRESENTATIVE MADE -- THE
00:18:21AGING BOOMERS REALLY NEED
THIS MASS TRANSIT MOVING
00:18:28FORWARD.
THE OTHER GROUP IS THE
00:18:29MILLENNIALS.
MILLENNIALS CHOOSE WHERE TO LIVE
00:18:41AND THEN GO LOOK FOR A JOB.
THEY ARE PRIMARILY ATTRACTED TO
00:18:45COOL CORE CITIES WHERE THEY CAN
DO COOL, FUN THINGS.
00:18:48THE CHILDREN OF SUBURBIA HAVE
REJECTED THE TENANTS OF
00:18:54SUBURBIA.
THEY HATE IT.
00:18:55KAREN: LET ME ASK YOU ABOUT
THESE STUDIES.
00:19:00THEY DO THESE STUDIES AND SAYING
IF YOU BUILD IT, THEY WILL COME.
00:19:07THEY WILL END THERE ARE EXAMPLES
OF THIS ANOTHER STATES.
00:19:10THE WORK COLLEAGUES IN THE HOUSE
AND SENATE BY THAT ARGUMENT --
00:19:16DO YOUR COLLEAGUES IN THE HOUSE
AND SENATE BY THAT ARGUMENT --
00:19:21BUY THAT ARGUMENT?
KAREN: THE MAJORITY DO NOT HAVE
00:19:28ANY CONTACT AT ALL WITH PUBLIC
TRANSPORTATION.
00:19:30JUST BECAUSE OF THEIR PROFESSION
AND THEIR NEEDS IN THAT REGARD.
00:19:34GOING BACK TO WHAT APPEALS AND
WHAT DOES NOT APPEAL, OVER A
00:19:39THIRD OF THE BUSES ARE 12 YEARS
OR OLDER.
00:19:42WHICH BECOME VERY MAINTENANCE
DEMANDING.
00:19:45THAT IS ANOTHER DISADVANTAGE TO
GETTING OUR MILLENNIALS AND
00:19:53OTHER INDIVIDUALS SUPPORTIVE OF
WHAT'S GOING ON.
00:20:00THEY LOOK AT THESE NOISY, DIRTY
BUSES AND DON'T WANT TO BE PART
00:20:02OF THAT.
GENE KREBS: THIS CAN HELP YOU
00:20:03WITH YOUR UBER PROBLEM.
I LOOK HERE IN COLUMBUS AT THE
00:20:12SPLIT -- IT'S ALL ABOUT GETTING
20,000 CARS OFF IN THE MORNING
00:20:19AND OFTEN THE AFTERNOON.
THEIR GOAL SHOULD BE TO MOVE
00:20:21PEOPLE IN THE SAFEST, MOST
COST-EFFECTIVE MATTER.
00:20:26THEY WANT TO GO AHEAD --
KAREN: 90% OF THE FUNDING GOES
00:20:38TO HIGHWAYS.
LET ME ASK YOU ABOUT THE FUTURE
00:20:45OF PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION IN
OHIO.
00:20:46WHERE IS IT GOING FROM HERE?
IF THE INCREASE IS NOT IN THIS
00:20:51BUDGET, WHERE DOES THE MONEY
COME FROM FOR THE FUTURE?
00:20:53WHAT'S THE THOUGHT OF LAWMAKERS
ABOUT WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN
00:20:58WITH PUBLIC TRANSIT GOING
FORWARD?
00:20:59REPRESENTATIVE GROSSMAN: I SIT
ON A PANEL WITH THE DEPUTY
00:21:02DIRECTOR FOR DISTRICT SIX.
WE TALKED ABOUT TRANSPORTATION
00:21:07FUTURE FUNDING.
THE LONGER WE POSTPONE THIS, THE
00:21:14MORE EXPENSIVE IT'S GOING TO BE
FOR US TO REPAIR.
00:21:16WE HAVE TO BITE THE BULLET ON
THIS TRANSPORTATION GROUP THAT
00:21:25HAS BEEN MEETING FOR 10 MONTHS,
WE ARE TRYING TO BE INNOVATIVE
00:21:28ON WHAT BEST PRACTICES ARE BEING
USED IN OTHER PARTS OF THE
00:21:33COUNTRY.
WE HAVE TO COME UP WITH MORE
00:21:34FUNDING.
I'M NOT CONFIDENT THAT THAT IS
00:21:41GOING TO HAPPEN FEDERALLY.
WE HAVE TO BITE THIS BULLET AND
00:21:49WRAPPED HER ARMS AROUND IT
BECAUSE THE EXPECTATIONS ON
00:21:52TRANSPORTATION SYSTEMS -- IT'S
IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER, IT'S
00:22:00FREEWAYS AND COUNTIES, WE HAVE
TO EMBRACE WHAT THOSE NEEDS ARE
00:22:05IF WE ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO
PROVIDE THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT
00:22:08OPPORTUNITIES IN THE STATE OF
OHIO.
00:22:10KAREN: YOU THINK PUBLIC
TRANSPORTATION IS A BIG ENOUGH
00:22:14PART OF THAT WOULD LAWMAKERS
LOOK AT THE OVERALL PICTURE?
00:22:16REPRESENTATIVE GROSSMAN: I
CERTAINLY HOPE SO.
00:22:18I WILL USE THE EXAMPLE IN
COLUMBUS OF THE SEA BUS -- IT
00:22:26WAS AN UNKNOWN VENTURE AND I
APPLAUD THEM.
00:22:28KAREN: THE FREE BUS SERVICE THAT
MOVES AROUND DOWNTOWN.
00:22:32REPRESENTATIVE GROSSMAN: IT'S
WORKING.
00:22:35IT'S FULL ALL THE TIME.
IF WE DO THIS RIGHT, WE CAN
00:22:42SUCCEED HERE IN OHIO ON WHAT
THAT NEXT LEVEL IS AN INCREASE
00:22:45FROM $.64 TO SOMEWHERE IN THE
MIDDLE OF OUR CONTIGUOUS STATES,
00:22:50WHAT THEY ARE FUNDING.
KAREN: I WILL GIVE YOU THE FINAL
00:22:54WORD ON THE FUTURE OF FUNDING
FOR YOU SPOKEN A LOT ABOUT THE
00:22:56IMPENDING COLLAPSE OF ODOT.
GENE KREBS: MANY TIMES.
00:22:59THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY, ESPECIALLY
THE HOUSE, IS NO LONGER
00:23:06SUFFERING FROM BLINDNESS -- THIS
ISSUE IS SO BIG.
00:23:12EVERYBODY IS GOING TO UNDERSTAND
MORE.
00:23:16THE KEY TO IT WILL BE
REALLOCATION OF FUNDS.
00:23:23WE WILL HAVE TO TAKE A STRONG
LOOK AT THE FLEX MONEY.
00:23:27IS THAT GOING TO THE RIGHT
PURPOSES?
00:23:31I WILL MAINTAIN NO, IT
ABSOLUTELY IS NOT.
00:23:37FROM A FISCALLY CONSERVATIVE
STANDPOINT, OHIO CITIZENS ARE
00:23:43NOT GETTING THE MOST BANG FOR
THEIR BUCK AS TO HOW ODOT
00:23:46ADMINISTERS THAT MONEY.
$50 BILLION OF YOUR INCOME TAX
00:23:52MONEY AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL IS
PROPPING UP THE HIGHWAY TRUST
00:23:58FUND.
IT IS NOT GASOLINE TAX, IT'S
00:24:01YOUR INCOME TAX.
KAREN: WHEN YOU SAY THE
00:24:11BLINDNESS HAS BEEN LIFTED, THERE
WAS NEVER COMPLETE WITH THIS
00:24:15BUDGET TO PUT SOME MORE MONEY
INTO PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION AND
00:24:18IT DID NOT GO IN THERE GENE
KREBS:.
00:24:20THE REPRESENTATIVE IS NOW OUT
THERE ACTIVELY TALKING ABOUT IT
00:24:25MORE.
SHE CHAIRS THE FINANCE
00:24:28SUBCOMMITTEE FOR TRANSPORTATION.
SHE GETS THIS ISSUE.
00:24:33KAREN: DO ENOUGH REPRESENTATIVES
GET THIS ISSUE?
00:24:37GENE KREBS: IT'S GETTING AROUND.
IT'S NOT UNLIKE THE FINANCIAL
00:24:46ANALYSTS SAYING ELECTRIC
UTILITIES ARE FACING A DEATH
00:24:50SPIRAL.
THIS IS HARD FOR MEMBERS OF THE
00:24:54GENERAL ASSEMBLY TO GET THEIR
INTELLECTUAL ARMS AROUND AND
00:25:00UNDERSTAND, THEIR NORMAL WAY OF
DOING THINGS IS ABOUT READY TO
00:25:04COLLAPSE.
I'VE BEEN SAYING THIS SINCE
00:25:05KATRINA HIT.
IT'S NOT GOING TO WORK IN THE
00:25:08FUTURE HERE.
KAREN: FINAL THOUGHT?
00:25:11REPRESENTATIVE GROSSMAN: WE NEED
TO CONTINUE EDUCATING EVERYONE,
00:25:19EVERY PLAYER AROUND THE TABLE ON
WHY THIS IS IMPORTANT FOR OHIO.
00:25:21IT'S SO EASY TO BE IN SILOS WHEN
YOU TALK ABOUT TRANSPORTATION.
00:25:26WE NEED TO LOOK STATEWIDE AND
GLOBALLY ON WHAT MAKES OHIO
00:25:30COMPETITIVE, MAKES US SUCCESSFUL
AND PROVIDES THAT QUALITY OF
00:25:34LIFE THAT OUR RESIDENTS EXPECT
AND DESERVE.
00:25:36I WILL CONTINUE RATTLING THAT
CAGE ON WHAT WE NEED TO BE DOING
00:25:42IN THIS AREA.
KAREN: REPRESENTATIVE GROSSMAN,
00:25:44GENE KREBS, THANK YOU VERY MUCH
FOR BEING HERE.
00:25:49AND THAT'S IT FOR THIS WEEK.
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