| 00:00:37 | >> OHIO COULD ONCE AGAIN BE
CENTER STAGE BEFORE THE |
| 00:00:41 | REPUBLICAN NATIONAL CONVENTION,
AS THE STATE WAS FOUR YEARS AGO. |
| 00:00:44 | BIG NEWS RELATED TO THE FALL
BALLOT, WITH LESS THAN 90 DAYS |
| 00:00:47 | TO GO.
AND POLITICAL ISSUES BRING IN |
| 00:00:50 | FIGHTERS FROM ALL SIDES - AND
MAKE SOME UNLIKELY ALLIES. |
| 00:00:52 | LEADERS FROM ORGANIZATIONS ON
THE LEFT AND THE RIGHT TALK |
| 00:00:57 | ABOUT HOW THEY'RE TEAMING UP TO
BATTLE ONE OF GOV. KASICH'S |
| 00:01:01 | KEYSTONE PROGRAMS.
ALL THIS WEEK IN "THE STATE OF |
| 00:01:03 | OHIO".
>> |
| 00:01:10 | NEXT WEEK COULD BE A HUGE ONE IN
OHIO POLITICS. |
| 00:01:12 | REPUBLICAN PRESIDENTIAL
CONTENDER MITT ROMNEY WILL |
| 00:01:15 | BRING A BUS TOUR THROUGH
VIRGINIA, NORTH CAROLINA, |
| 00:01:17 | FLORIDA AND ENDING IN OHIO.
AND IT CERTAINLY ISN'T GOING |
| 00:01:19 | UNNOTICED THAT HE PLANS TO BE
IN CHILLICOTHE ON TUESDAY, WITH |
| 00:01:20 | US SENATOR ROB PORTMAN OF OHIO
ALONGSIDE HIM. |
| 00:01:24 | CHILLICOTHE IS ONE OF THOSE
COMMUNITIES THAT ARE PROFILED |
| 00:01:29 | AS BELLWEATHER TOWNS IN
PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION YEARS. |
| 00:01:30 | AND OF COURSE PORTMAN IS
CONSIDERED AT OR NEAR THE TOP |
| 00:01:34 | OF ROMNEY'S LIST OF POTENTIAL
RUNNING MATES. |
| 00:01:36 | PUNDITS EXPECT ROMNEY TO MAKE
HIS ANNOUNCEMENT ABOUT HIS |
| 00:01:40 | CHOICE FOR VICE PRESIDENT AFTER
THE OLYMPICS END ON SUNDAY BUT |
| 00:01:45 | BEFORE THE REPUBLICAN NATIONAL
CONVENTION BEGINS ON AUGUST 27. |
| 00:01:47 | AND SOME WILL NOTE THAT JOHN
MCCAIN INTRODUCED SARAH PALIN |
| 00:01:51 | AS HIS RUNNING MATE IN AN
APPEARANCE IN DAYTON IN AUGUST |
| 00:01:55 | 2008.
MEANWHILE, THE OBAMA CAMPAIGN |
| 00:01:58 | IS URGING PEOPLE TO TELL
STORIES ABOUT ROB PORTMAN'S |
| 00:02:00 | "REAL RECORD."
AN ONLINE APPEAL -- COMPLETE |
| 00:02:04 | WITH A FORM TO SUBMIT STORIES
-- STATES THAT OHIOANS SHOULD |
| 00:02:06 | TELL WHAT THEY THINK AMERICANS
"NEED TO KNOW" ABOUT PORTMAN. |
| 00:02:09 | PORTMAN IS THE FORMER WHITE
HOUSE BUDGET DIRECTOR UNDER |
| 00:02:13 | PRESIDENT BUSH.
AND THE DEMOCRATIC NATIONAL |
| 00:02:17 | COMMITTEE HAS ANNOUNCED IT WILL
ROLL OUT ITS OWN BUS TOUR TO |
| 00:02:20 | STALK ROMNEY'S CAMPAIGN, WHICH
IS CALLING ITSELF "THE ROMNEY |
| 00:02:23 | PLAN FOR A STRONGER MIDDLE
CLASS." |
| 00:02:25 | THE DEMOCRATS' TOUR IS CALLING
ITSELF "ROMNEY ECONOMICS - THE |
| 00:02:29 | MIDDLE CLASS UNDER THE BUS."
THIS WEEK WAS A TOUGH ONE FOR |
| 00:02:33 | SCHOOL DISTRICTS WITH LEVIES ON
THE SPECIAL ELECTION BALLOT. |
| 00:02:35 | 70 PERCENT OF THOSE SCHOOL
ISSUES FAILED - 25 WERE |
| 00:02:40 | REJECTED, 10 PASSED, AND ONE
WAS PULLED FROM THE BALLOT. |
| 00:02:42 | ANALYSTS SAY THAT'S NOT
UNEXPECTED, AS VOTERS TEND TO |
| 00:02:47 | REJECT TAX QUESTIONS WHEN THE
ECONOMY IS SLOW. |
| 00:02:48 | THAT LEAVES DISTRICTS SUCH AS
CLEVELAND, TOLEDO AND AKRON |
| 00:02:53 | WONDERING ABOUT THEIR LEVIES'
CHANCES ON THIS FALL'S BALLOT. |
| 00:02:55 | SPEAKING OF THIS FALL'S VOTE,
THOSE WHO WANT TO CAST BALLOTS |
| 00:03:01 | BUT NEED TO UPDATE THEIR
ADDRESSES CAN NOW DO SO ONLINE. |
| 00:03:03 | SECRETARY OF STATE JOHN HUSTED
SAYS THAT THE MOVE TO ONLINE |
| 00:03:07 | ADDRESS CHANGES SHOULD HELP
VOTERS MEET THE REQUIREMENT OF |
| 00:03:11 | BEING REGISTERED AT THEIR
CURRENT ADDRESS 30 DAYS BEFORE |
| 00:03:14 | AN ELECTION.
HUSTED SAYS IT WILL IMPROVE THE |
| 00:03:17 | SECURITY OF VOTER ROLLS,
LEAVING LESS ROOM FOR FRAUD, AND |
| 00:03:19 | COULD SAVE TAX DOLLARS BY
REDUCING THE WORKLOAD AT COUNTY |
| 00:03:23 | ELECTIONS OFFICES.
VOTERS CAN UPDATE THEIR |
| 00:03:29 | INFORMATION AT
WWW.MYOHIOVOTE.COM. |
| 00:03:30 | AND THERE WILL BE AT LEAST ONE
STATEWIDE ISSUE ON THIS FALL'S |
| 00:03:35 | BALLOT.
THE GROUP VOTERS FIRST HAS |
| 00:03:37 | FILED ENOUGH VALID SIGNATURES TO
GET ONTO THE BALLOT A PROPOSAL |
| 00:03:38 | TO CREATE A 12 MEMBER CITIZENS'
COMMISSION TO DRAW THE DISTRICT |
| 00:03:42 | LINES FOR STATE AND FEDERAL
LAWMAKERS. |
| 00:03:43 | THE OHIO REPUBLICAN PARTY, THE
OHIO STATE BAR ASSOCIATION AND |
| 00:03:47 | A GROUP CALLED PROTECT YOUR
VOTE OHIO ARE FIGHTING THE |
| 00:03:51 | AMENDMENT.
IT DIDN'T TAKE LONG FOR A |
| 00:03:54 | REPORT FROM THE INSPECTOR
GENERAL ABOUT STATE SCHOOLS |
| 00:03:57 | SUPERINTENDENT STAN HEFFNER TO
CREATE A BIG CHANGE AT THE |
| 00:03:59 | DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION.
THE REPORT FROM IG RANDALL |
| 00:04:04 | MEYER FOUND THAT HEFFNER WAS ON
THE PAYROLL OF A TEXAS-BASED |
| 00:04:06 | TESTING FIRM WHEN HE LOBBIED
STATE LAWMAKERS LAST YEAR ON A |
| 00:04:08 | BILL THAT BENEFITED THE COMPANY.
THE REPORT ALSO FOUND HEFFNER |
| 00:04:13 | MISUSED HIS STATE EMAIL,
CELLPHONE, AND STAFF TO PURSUE |
| 00:04:17 | THE TESTING JOB.
OVER THE WEEKEND, HEFFNER |
| 00:04:21 | ANNOUNCED HIS RESIGNATION, WHICH
WAS EFFECTIVE ON FRIDAY. |
| 00:04:22 | HE GAVE NO REASON FOR HIS
SUDDEN DEPARTURE, BUT GOV. |
| 00:04:26 | JOHN KASICH SAID IT WAS THE
RIGHT MOVE CONSIDERING WHAT HE |
| 00:04:30 | CALLED "MISTAKES IN JUDGMENT."
THIS WAS A BIG YEAR AT THE OHIO |
| 00:04:33 | STATE FAIR.
ATTENDANCE FOR THE 159TH FAIR, |
| 00:04:36 | WHICH ENDED ON AUGUST 5, TOPPED
840-THOUSAND. |
| 00:04:40 | THAT'S AN INCREASE OF ABOUT 1
PERCENT OVER LAST YEAR AND THE |
| 00:04:43 | LARGEST ATTENDANCE FIGURE SINCE
2004. |
| 00:04:45 | AND THE OHIO STATE FAIR SALE OF
CHAMPIONS LIVESTOCK AUCTION |
| 00:04:50 | RAISED NEARLY A QUARTER OF A
MILLION DOLLARS FOR YOUTH |
| 00:04:53 | SCHOLARSHIPS AND PROGRAMS -
THAT'S A RECORD. |
| 00:04:55 | THE AUCTION ON THE FAIR'S FINAL
DAY SUNDAY INCLUDED THE SALE OF |
| 00:05:00 | YOUTH-RAISED CHICKENS, LAMBS,
PIGS, COWS, GOATS, FOWL, AND |
| 00:05:02 | EVEN SWISS CHEESE.
THIS YEAR'S SALE BROKE SEVEN |
| 00:05:05 | INDIVIDUAL AUCTION RECORDS.
EXHIBITORS KEEP SOME OF THE |
| 00:05:09 | MONEY, WITH THE REST GOING TO
THE FAIR'S YOUTH RESERVE |
| 00:05:12 | PROGRAM.
SINCE 1995 THE PROGRAM HAS |
| 00:05:14 | AWARDED MORE THAN 28,000 YOUTH
EXHIBITORS MORE THAN $2 MILLION. |
| 00:05:17 | POLITICS BRINGS TOGETHER PEOPLE
WHO MIGHT NORMALLY NOT HANG OUT |
| 00:05:23 | ON THE WEEKENDS - FOR INSTANCE,
IN THE PAST, CONSERVATIVE AND |
| 00:05:28 | LIBERAL CHURCHES HAVE TEAMED UP
WITH BARS AND HORSERACING |
| 00:05:30 | TRACKS TO FIGHT CASINOS.
THERE'S ANOTHER UNLIKELY |
| 00:05:34 | TEAMING UP GOING ON, TO TAKE THE
BATTLE OVER WHETHER THE PUBLIC- |
| 00:05:36 | PRIVATE ENTITY JOBSOHIO IS A
LEGAL, CONSTITUTIONAL CREATION |
| 00:05:39 | TO THE OHIO SUPREME COURT.
THE DEMOCRAT AND UNION-BACKED |
| 00:05:44 | GROUP PROGRESS OHIO HAS HAD
LAWSUIT AGAINST JOBSOHIO TOSSED |
| 00:05:48 | OUT OF TWO COURTS, ON THE
GROUNDS THAT THE GROUP HAD NO |
| 00:05:51 | STANDING TO SUE.
THAT RULING HAS RAISED THE |
| 00:05:54 | HACKLES OF THE TEA PARTY BACKED
GROUP THE 1851 CENTER FOR |
| 00:05:57 | CONSTITUTIONAL LAW, AN OFFSHOOT
OF THE CONSERVATIVE BUCKEYE |
| 00:06:03 | INSTITUTE.
ACTIVISTS FROM THAT GROUP ARE |
| 00:06:05 | NOW JOINING PROGRESS OHIO IN
ASKING THE STATE'S HIGH COURT TO |
| 00:06:07 | HEAR THEIR ARGUMENTS OVER
JOBSOHIO. |
| 00:06:09 | AND THE LAWSUIT GOT A NEW PUSH
THIS WEEK, WHEN IT WAS |
| 00:06:15 | ANNOUNCED THAT COMMERCE DIRECTOR
DAVID GOODMAN REFUSED TO SIGN |
| 00:06:19 | THE JOBSOHIO TRANSFER AGREEMENT
UNTIL THE OHIO SUPREME COURT |
| 00:06:23 | RULES ON CONSTITUTIONALITY.
GOODMAN SAYS HE'S CONFIDENT THE |
| 00:06:27 | PROGRAM IS LEGAL, BUT SAYS IT'S
NOT HIS CALL TO MAKE. |
| 00:06:30 | HERE TO TALK ABOUT THEIR
UNUSUAL PARTNERSHIP ARE BRIAN |
| 00:06:34 | ROTHENBERG FROM PROGRESS OHIO
AND MAURICE THOMPSON FROM THE |
| 00:06:37 | 1851 CENTER FOR CONSTITUTIONAL
LAW. |
| 00:06:38 | HOW DID THIS TEAMING UP HAPPEN,
WHO CAME TO WHOM AND SAID LET'S |
| 00:06:47 | WORK TOGETHER TO GET OUR COMMON
INTERESTS BEFORE THE OF OUR |
| 00:06:51 | SUPREME COURT?
>> MAURICE SEND ME AN E-MAIL, |
| 00:06:55 | AND I SENT IT TO THE ATTORNEYS
TO LOOK AT. |
| 00:06:57 | THE KEY THING HERE IS THIS IS
LARGER THAN JOBSOHIO, ALTHOUGH I |
| 00:07:03 | HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT JOBSOHIO.
THIS CASE SAYS THAT NOBODY HAS |
| 00:07:10 | THE RIGHT TO SUE OVER AN
UNCONSTITUTIONAL PROVISION. |
| 00:07:13 | THERE IS NO COURT THAT HAS
RULED ON JOBSOHIO. |
| 00:07:17 | BUT THEY HAVE SAID IS WE DID NOT
HAVE THE RIGHT TO SUE. |
| 00:07:20 | BASICALLY, WHAT IT SAYS IS YOU
COULD HAVE AN UNCONSTITUTIONAL |
| 00:07:26 | PROVISION OUT THERE AND NO ONE
CAN SUE TO MAKE SURE THAT IT IS |
| 00:07:28 | CONSTITUTIONAL.
WHEN YOU'RE CONSTITUTION IS NOT |
| 00:07:31 | IN TREADS, WHAT DOES IT MEAN?
>> I KNOW YOU ARE CONCERNED |
| 00:07:37 | ABOUT THAT.
>> I READ THE DECISION IN THE |
| 00:07:40 | CASE.
I WAS SHOCKED BY THE NATURE OF |
| 00:07:43 | THE DECISION BECAUSE WE HAVE
BEEN SLOWLY DRIFTING AWAY FROM |
| 00:07:47 | TAXPAYERS STANDING IN THE OHIO
OVER THE LAST DECADE OR SO. |
| 00:07:51 | EACH CASE HAS GOT WORSE AND
WORSE, TO THE POINT WHERE IT IS |
| 00:07:54 | SLAMMING THE DOOR ON THE OHIOANS
DEFENDING THEIR CONSTITUTION IN |
| 00:07:58 | COURT.
THIS WAS THE CASE THAT TOOK THE |
| 00:08:01 | CAKE.
IT WAS THE WORST CASE OF |
| 00:08:03 | STANDING I HAVE READ.
IT PAID NO HOMAGE TO THE OHIO |
| 00:08:07 | CONSTITUTION, ALL BIG KNOWLEDGE
IN THE FEDERAL CONSTITUTION, |
| 00:08:11 | WHICH IS A PROBLEM.
THE TWO ARE DIFFERENT OF |
| 00:08:14 | STANDING.
AS SOON AS I READ THE CASE, I |
| 00:08:17 | FOUND BRIAN'S E-MAIL ADDRESS.
I ONLY HAVE THAT BECAUSE I WAS |
| 00:08:22 | CC'ED ON A MESSAGE THAT HE SAID.
I SAID, WE WILL DO WHAT WE CAN |
| 00:08:31 | TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU DO
SOMETHING ABOUT THIS. |
| 00:08:34 | THE DECISION CANNOT STAND AS IT
IS. |
| 00:08:37 | >> THIS IS NOT THE FIRST TIME
YOU HAVE BEEN CONCERNED ABOUT |
| 00:08:40 | THIS BRAND.
YOU HOSTED THE CONSERVE THEIR |
| 00:08:43 | ROUNDTABLE WHEN THEY CAME DOWN
TO COLUMBUS TO REACT TO A |
| 00:08:46 | LAWSUIT IN WHICH THEY HAD SUED
OVER THE RACINOS. |
| 00:08:51 | THAT CASE WAS ALSO THROWN OUT OF
COURT FOR LACK OF STANDING. |
| 00:08:57 | >> A VERY CONSERVATIVE GROUP.
WE AGREE WITH THEM AS WELL ABOUT |
| 00:09:04 | THE CONCERNS OVER THE LOTTERY
AND ALL OF A SUDDEN A LOT AREA |
| 00:09:08 | ALLOWING THESE GAMES OF CHANCE
HAPPENING AT THE RACETRACKS. |
| 00:09:11 | IT WAS NOT ALLOWED WHEN WE VOTE
AND THEN IN, BUT NOW IS A |
| 00:09:14 | COMFORTABLE TO HAVE THESE SLOT
MACHINE-TYPE ACTIVITIES GOING ON |
| 00:09:19 | AT THE RACETRACKS.
WHY? |
| 00:09:21 | BECAUSE THERE WAS A WAY TO GET
AROUND THE CONSTITUTION. |
| 00:09:23 | THIS IS NOT JUST A REPUBLICAN OR
DEMOCRATIC OR PROGRESSIVE, IN MY |
| 00:09:29 | CASE, OR CONSERVATIVE ISSUE.
THIS IS ABOUT THE INABILITY FOR |
| 00:09:37 | ANYONE TO SUE OVER
UNCONSTITUTIONAL PROVISIONS. |
| 00:09:40 | IN THE CASE OF JOBSOHIO, IT
MAKES IT EVEN WORSE. |
| 00:09:43 | WHAT THEY WROTE INTO THE
LEGISLATION IS THAT YOU HAD TO |
| 00:09:47 | SUE WITHIN 90 DAYS.
IN ORDER TO HAVE STANDING YOU |
| 00:09:50 | HAVE TO BE ABLE TO SHOW HARM.
JOBSOHIO DID NOT EXIST BECAUSE |
| 00:09:55 | IT WAS NOT CREATED AFTER 90
DAYS. |
| 00:09:57 | IF YOU CANNOT SUE AFTER 90 DAYS,
WHEN JOBSOHIO EXISTED, THERE IS |
| 00:10:03 | NO WAY TO HAVE STANDING.
>> THE IDEA OF STANDING, IF |
| 00:10:08 | ANYBODY HAS STANDING, THEN
EVERYONE HAS STANDING. |
| 00:10:11 | COULDN'T THAT BRING THE WHOLE
STATE GOVERNMENT TO A HALT IF |
| 00:10:16 | ANYBODY CAN SUE OVER A PROGRAM
THEY DO NOT LIKE, BILL THEY |
| 00:10:20 | DISAGREE WITH?
>> NOT REALLY. |
| 00:10:23 | THE SPECIAL THING ABOUT THIS
CASE IS IT IS UNIQUE. |
| 00:10:26 | A NORMAL CASE WHERE YOU HAVE ANY
CONCERNS ARE THE PROPERTY RIGHTS |
| 00:10:31 | CASE.
DEMOLISH A HOUSE OR REGULATE A |
| 00:10:35 | PIECE OF PROPERTY.
THE STANDING RULE SAYS PERSON |
| 00:10:37 | A'S PROPERTY IS BEING REGULATED.
THAT DOES NOT MEAN THAT PERSON |
| 00:10:43 | BE'S CAN BRING A LAWSUIT ABOUT
THEIR PROPERTY. |
| 00:10:45 | WHEN WE GET INTO TROUBLE WHEN WE
TALK ABOUT STANDING, |
| 00:10:51 | PARTICULARLY IN THE OHIO
CONSTITUTION, WE HAVE THESE |
| 00:10:54 | UNIQUE PROVISIONS IN THE
CONSTITUTION THAT PREVENTS |
| 00:10:56 | THINGS LIKE THE AUTO BAILOUT FOR
THE BANK BAILOUT. |
| 00:10:59 | IT PROHIBITS CORPORATE WELFARE,
SPENDING IN AID TO PRIVATE |
| 00:11:04 | CORPORATIONS, SPENDING BEYOND
CERTAIN DEBT LIMITS. |
| 00:11:05 | THE QUESTION IS WHO IS REALLY
HARMED BY THAT AND TO HAVE |
| 00:11:09 | STANDING TO ENFORCE THAT?
IT USED TO BE THE CASE IN OHIO |
| 00:11:13 | CONSISTENTLY THAT EVERYBODY HAD
A PERSONAL STAKE AS IT WAS |
| 00:11:17 | CONSIDERED AN ENFORCEMENT OF THE
STATE CONSTITUTION. |
| 00:11:20 | LIVING UNDER A GOVERNMENT THAT
IT APPEARS TO THAT. |
| 00:11:24 | I DO NOT THINK IT OPENED THE
FLOODGATES IT EVERY OHIO CAN |
| 00:11:28 | DETECT THESE THREE PROVISIONS IN
THE ARTICLE 8 AND ARTICLE 13. |
| 00:11:32 | YOU HAVE STOOD UP TO HAVE THE
RESOURCES TO GET TO COURT AND |
| 00:11:36 | YOU HAVE TO CARE ENOUGH TO
BRING A MERITORIOUS CASE. |
| 00:11:39 | I THINK THE FLOODGATES ARGUMENT
IS MORE OF A UTILITARIAN |
| 00:11:46 | ARGUMENT.
WE SEE JUDGES MAKING THIS |
| 00:11:48 | ARGUMENT, THERE WOULD BE TOO
MANY CASES. |
| 00:11:51 | IT IS NOT YOUR JOB TO LIMIT THE
NUMBER OF CASES IN COURT. |
| 00:11:54 | THERE IS NOTHING IN THE
CONSTITUTION THAT ALLOWS YOU TO |
| 00:11:57 | APPLY YOUR VALUE JUDGMENT TO A
BUNCH OF CASES IN COURT. |
| 00:12:01 | WHAT YOU HAVE TO DO IS ENFORCE
ITS TERMS. |
| 00:12:04 | THESE JUDGES HAVE TAKEN A BLACK
MAGIC MARKER AND ESSENTIALLY |
| 00:12:10 | REDACTED ARTICLE 8 AND ARTICLE
13 OUT OF THE CONSTITUTION |
| 00:12:13 | BECAUSE IF PROGRESS OHIO CANNOT
ENFORCE THOSE TERMS IN THIS |
| 00:12:17 | CASE, THEN NO OHIOAN HAS A STAKE
TO DO THAT EVER. |
| 00:12:23 | >> IS THIS LACK OF STANDING A
GROWING ISSUE? |
| 00:12:26 | >> YES, AND IT IS A GROWING
PROBLEM. |
| 00:12:30 | WHEN YOU HAVE A LIVING,
BREATHING DOCUMENT IN THE |
| 00:12:35 | CONSTITUTION, AND YOU HAVE
REASONS FOR THE PROVISION TO BE |
| 00:12:38 | PUT IN PLACE -- WHEN THE CANALS
WERE BUILT, THERE WAS A HUGE |
| 00:12:43 | SCANDAL GOING ON WITH THE
CORPORATIONS, WHICH IS WHY THEY |
| 00:12:47 | ENACTED THESE LAWS TO NOT ALLOW
PRIVATE MONEY IN A PUBLIC |
| 00:12:50 | INSTITUTION.
SUDDENLY, THE COURT HAS NEVER |
| 00:12:53 | RULED ON THAT PROVISION.
IT BASICALLY SAID YOU CANNOT |
| 00:12:58 | SUE.
WHAT GOOD IS THE PROVISION IN |
| 00:13:01 | THE CONSTITUTION IF YOU CANNOT
SUE TO MAKE SURE IT IS UPHELD? |
| 00:13:03 | >> YOU AGREE THAT JOBSOHIO
ITSELF IS AN UNCONSTITUTIONAL |
| 00:13:10 | ENTITY, ALTHOUGH YOU HAVE GIVEN
ZERO REASONS FOR FEELING THAT. |
| 00:13:14 | >> LET ME CHECK YOU A LITTLE BIT
ON THAT STATEMENT. |
| 00:13:16 | AT THIS POINT, WE ARE AGNOSTIC
AS TO WHETHER JOBSOHIO IS |
| 00:13:22 | CONSTITUTIONAL OR NOT.
OUR POSITION IS A STRONG ONE IN |
| 00:13:25 | SUPPORT OF PROGRESS OHIO, AND WE
ARE ANALYZING THEIR CLAIMS ON |
| 00:13:29 | JOBSOHIO.
LOTS OF PEOPLE WHO UNDERSTAND |
| 00:13:33 | THE CONSTITUTION ARE SUSPICIOUS
OF JOBSOHIO, HAVE HAD THAT |
| 00:13:36 | SUSPICION FROM THE BEGINNING,
AND THAT INCLUDES OUR GROUP. |
| 00:13:39 | AT THIS POINT, WE HAVE NOT TAKEN
A POSITION ON THE MERITS. |
| 00:13:45 | >> SO IT GOES TO THE SUPREME
COURT, YOU WILL NOT NECESSARILY |
| 00:13:49 | BE ON JOBSOHIO SIDE?
>> WE WILL SEE WHAT ISSUES THE |
| 00:13:54 | COURT ACCEPTS.
WE ARE FIGHTING FOR THEIR RIGHT |
| 00:13:56 | TO BE IN COURT.
WE WILL LOOK AT HOW GOOD THEIR |
| 00:14:00 | ARGUMENT IS.
IF THE COURT TAKES THOSE ISSUES. |
| 00:14:03 | >> RYAN, YOU BELIEVE THIS IS AN
UNCONSTITUTIONAL EXERCISE. |
| 00:14:08 | >> THE FACT IS, THE CONSTITUTION
DOES NOT ALLOW FOR PUBLIC MONEY |
| 00:14:11 | IN A PRIVATE CORPORATION.
JOBSOHIO IS A PRIVATE |
| 00:14:15 | CORPORATION.
THAT IS THE MAIN ISSUE HERE. |
| 00:14:17 | THEY CANNOT GET AROUND IT, SO
INSTEAD THEY ARE PLANNING LEGAL |
| 00:14:23 | INJUDICIOUS -- JUDICIAL GAMES TO
NEVER HAVE A COURT RULING ON |
| 00:14:26 | WHETHER IT IS LEGAL OR NOT.
RIGHT NOW I JUST WANT THEM TO |
| 00:14:29 | RULE.
FOR ONE THING, WE HAVE ALL KINDS |
| 00:14:33 | OF TAX MONEY, ALL KINDS OF
LIQUOR MONEY TRANSFERS, OTHER |
| 00:14:37 | MONEY IS NOW COMING IN FROM THE
THIRD FRONTIER AND OTHER WAYS |
| 00:14:41 | NOW FLOWING THROUGH JOBSOHIO,
AND NOW THEY'RE GIVING IT TO |
| 00:14:45 | REGIONAL CORPORATIONS.
MILLIONS AND MILLIONS OF DOLLARS |
| 00:14:49 | WITH LITTLE OVERSIGHT.
>> YOU LOOK AT THIS PARTNERSHIP |
| 00:14:52 | AND YOU THINK, IS THERE HOPE FOR
BIPARTISANSHIP? |
| 00:14:54 | YOU ARE BOTH SO FAR ON THEIR OWN
PERSPECTIVES, YOU HAVE MET ON |
| 00:15:02 | THE OTHER SIDE.
DO YOU BRING HOPE FOR |
| 00:15:03 | BIPARTISANSHIP OR ARE YOU JUST
SO EXCITING THAT YOU HAVE MET ON |
| 00:15:07 | THE FAR END?
>> CORPORATE WELFARE AS AN |
| 00:15:10 | ISSUE, WHERE THAT CIRCLE IS A
BETTER ILLUSTRATION THAN THE |
| 00:15:14 | CONTINUUM OF POLITICAL
PHILOSOPHY, WE ARE VERY |
| 00:15:20 | LIBERTARIAN.
WE THINK GOVERNMENT SHOULD TREAT |
| 00:15:22 | PEOPLE EQUALLY.
WE DO NOTHING THEY SHOULD |
| 00:15:26 | REDISTRIBUTE WEALTH.
WE DISAGREE ON THOSE ISSUES, BUT |
| 00:15:30 | WHERE IT COMES BACK AROUND,
WHERE THEY ARE RISK -- READ |
| 00:15:33 | DISTRIBUTING WEALTH TO CERTAIN
POPULATION GROUPS. |
| 00:15:35 | THE REASON FOR NO KIND OF
REDISTRIBUTION. |
| 00:15:39 | IT -- WE SUPPORT THE KIND OF
REDISTRIBUTION. |
| 00:15:46 | WHAT WE WANT TO DO IS GO THE
OTHER WAY. |
| 00:15:49 | INSTEAD OF THIS BURGEONING
PRIVATE CORPORATION THAT IS |
| 00:15:53 | GOING TO PICK WINNERS AND
LOSERS IN THE MARKETPLACE WITH |
| 00:15:56 | PUBLIC MONEY, WHAT WE WANT IS
LOWER TAX RATES ACROSS THE |
| 00:16:00 | BOARD, FOR BIG BUSINESSES AND
SMALL BUSINESSES. |
| 00:16:03 | CREED AND LEVEL PLAYING FIELD
AND ALLOW PEOPLE TO SUCCEED ON |
| 00:16:07 | THEIR OWN MERITS, INSTEAD OF A
HELPING HAND FROM BIG BROTHER. |
| 00:16:11 | >> WHAT WE WANT IS ACTUALLY NOT
HAVING ANYONE PICK OR CHOOSE |
| 00:16:15 | ANYMORE WITH THESE THINGS.
WE AGREE ON TRANSPARENCY ISSUES. |
| 00:16:20 | THIS IS NOT THE FIRST TIME
PROGRESS OF OHIO HAS WORKED WITH |
| 00:16:24 | GROUPS ON THE CONSERVATIVE SIDE.
WE HAVE ALSO BEEN OPPOSED TO |
| 00:16:29 | CASINO GAMING.
A COUPLE OF OTHER ISSUES THAT WE |
| 00:16:32 | JOINED IN.
THE IMPORTANT THING HERE IS THAT |
| 00:16:34 | YOU KEEP A DIALOGUE WITH PEOPLE,
EVEN IF YOU DISAGREE WITH THEM |
| 00:16:38 | AT CERTAIN TIMES.
HAS MORE REECE AND I HAVE TALKED |
| 00:16:40 | ABOUT, SOME OF THE GROUPS THAT
WERE OPPOSED TO THE WAR THAT I |
| 00:16:44 | WORKED WITH, BACK IN 2006, WHEN
WE WERE OPPOSING ESCALATION IN |
| 00:16:50 | IRAQ, WHEN I TALK TO TEA PARTY
PLACES, MANY OF THOSE PEOPLE |
| 00:16:56 | THAT WORK WITH ME ON THE ANTI-
WERE STOPPED COME OVER AND TALK |
| 00:17:00 | TO ME.
IT IS A GENERATIONAL THING, I |
| 00:17:03 | THINK.
I AM PLEASED THAT HE CAN REACH |
| 00:17:06 | ACROSS THE AISLE AND DO THIS,
BUT BACK IN THE 1980'S AND |
| 00:17:10 | 9090'S WHEN I FIRST CAME DOWN
HERE, YOU WERE ABLE TO TALK WITH |
| 00:17:15 | PEOPLE THAT YOU DISAGREE WITH.
IT IS MUCH MORE POLARIZED IN |
| 00:17:20 | THIS TOWN NOW, AS IT IS IN
WASHINGTON. |
| 00:17:21 | >> ON AN ISSUE LIKE THIS,
DEFENDING THE STATE CONSTITUTION |
| 00:17:27 | IS SO MUCH LARGER THAN ANYO ONE
POLITICAL ISSUE OR PERSON. |
| 00:17:33 | ARTICLE 8 AND ARTICLE 13
COMPANIES ARE IMPORTANT |
| 00:17:39 | STRUCTURAL LIMITATIONS ON
GOVERNMENT THAT DEFEND US FROM A |
| 00:17:42 | RUNAWAY GOVERNMENT, WHICH WE
THINK WE HAVE THE FEDERAL |
| 00:17:46 | GOVERNMENT.
THESE THINGS HAVE BEEN AROUND |
| 00:17:48 | FOR 160 YEARS.
WE HOPE IT CAN BE AROUND FOR |
| 00:17:51 | ANOTHER 160 YEARS.
IF WE CANNOT GET THESE THINGS |
| 00:17:56 | UNDER CONTROL, THAN ANY
ADMINISTRATION COULD USE THESE |
| 00:17:58 | POWERS IN THE FUTURE, TOO.
THIS IS NOT A REPUBLICAN VERSUS |
| 00:18:03 | DEMOCRAT THING.
THESE ARE STRUCTURAL PROVISIONS |
| 00:18:06 | THAT PROTECT US ALL AND ARE
BIGGER THAN ANY ONE PUBLIC |
| 00:18:10 | OFFICIAL.
>> WHILE YOU ARE HERE, I WANT TO |
| 00:18:14 | ASK SOME QUESTIONS ON THINGS YOU
DO NOT NECESSARILY AGREE ON. |
| 00:18:16 | BRIAN, ARE YOU IN A POSITION TO
TAKE ANY ACTION WITH REGARD TO |
| 00:18:23 | WHAT THE STATE IS DOING ABOUT
STEPPING UP A STATE INSURANCE |
| 00:18:27 | EXCHANGE, WHICH IS IN THE
AFFORDABLE CARE ACT? |
| 00:18:31 | MAURICE, YOU SAID THAT YOU MIGHT
SUE FOR WHAT THE STATE DID UNDER |
| 00:18:37 | THE HEALTH CARE MANDATE.
>> WE ARE ON OPPOSITE SIDES OF |
| 00:18:41 | THIS.
I HAD BEEN ENCOURAGED BY THE |
| 00:18:44 | GOVERNOR'S STATEMENTS THAT THEY
ARE CONSIDERING THE MEDICAID |
| 00:18:48 | EXPANSION.
GREAT MOVIE FROM THE OFFICE. |
| 00:18:52 | I AM ENCOURAGED BY THAT.
WHEN I AM DISTURBED ABOUT IS, IT |
| 00:18:57 | SEEMS LIKE OUR LIEUTENANT
GOVERNOR WOULD RATHER PLAY |
| 00:18:59 | POLITICS ON THIS ISSUE AND IS
TAKING A POLITICAL STANCE, USING |
| 00:19:04 | INFLAMMATORY LANGUAGE, AND THERE
SEEMS TO BE A DIVIDING THE |
| 00:19:09 | GOVERNOR'S OFFICE BECAUSE OF
THAT. |
| 00:19:11 | I REALLY WISH THE LIEUTENANT
GOVERNOR WOULD UNDERSTAND THIS |
| 00:19:14 | IS ABOUT PEOPLE'S HEALTH.
IT IS ABOUT GIVING A OHIOANS OF |
| 00:19:20 | SAY AND WRITE IN HOW THIS WILL
BE DESIGNED AND WORK, INSTEAD OF |
| 00:19:25 | PLAYING PURE POLITICAL GAMES
BECAUSE OF THIS POLITICAL |
| 00:19:27 | SEASON.
>> OF COURSE, WE DO NOT AGREE |
| 00:19:31 | WITH ANY OF THAT AT ALL.
THE ISSUE WITH THE STATE-RUN |
| 00:19:36 | EXCHANGES TO FOR A HIGH WINDS.
THE REASON IS NOT A POLITICAL |
| 00:19:38 | ISSUE OR ABOUT STATE AUTONOMY IS
THAT WHEN A STATE RUNS -- SIGNS |
| 00:19:44 | UP FOR AN OBAMACARE EXCHANGE,
DECIDED TO BE SUBJECT TO ANY LAW |
| 00:19:48 | OR REGULATION PASSED BY HHS AND
KATHLEEN SEBELIUS. |
| 00:19:53 | ESSENTIALLY, THE STATE WOULD BE
SERVING US UP ON A SILVER |
| 00:19:57 | PLATTER TO ANY KIND OF
REGULATION IN RESPECT OF OF |
| 00:20:00 | WHETHER IT IS A STATE OR FEDERAL
EXCHANGE. |
| 00:20:02 | THE NOTION OF A STATE-PFENNIG
GAIN BE MORE INDEPENDENT -- YOU |
| 00:20:07 | CAN ACTUALLY LOOK AT THE LAW.
WHAT IS THE BEST WE CAN DO FOR |
| 00:20:12 | OHIO?
THAT IT CONTINUES TO BE HEALTH |
| 00:20:14 | CARE FREEDOM AND TO LIMIT THE
SCOPE AND EFFECTIVENESS OF |
| 00:20:18 | OBAMACARE IN OHIO AND TO LIMIT
ITS EFFECT ON HEALTH CARE |
| 00:20:20 | CHOICE.
WE DO THAT THROUGH MAKING IT |
| 00:20:24 | MORE DIFFICULT TO ENFORCE
OBAMACARE FOR NOT GIVING IN ON |
| 00:20:28 | THE STATE EXCHANGE.
AS IT TURNS OUT, THE PREMIUM |
| 00:20:31 | ASSISTANCE AND THE $3,000 A YEAR
TAX ON EMPLOYERS IS ONLY |
| 00:20:38 | POSSIBLE UNDER A STATE-RUN
EXCHANGE. |
| 00:20:42 | OHIO CAN FIGHT AGAINST THOSE
PROVISIONS BY AVOIDING THE |
| 00:20:45 | STATE-RUN EXCHANGE.
WE ALSO BELIEVE IT VIOLATES THE |
| 00:20:50 | TERMS OF THE HEALTH CARE FREEDOM
AMENDMENT. |
| 00:20:52 | >> IF THE STATE WENT THROUGH
WITH THE EXCHANGE, YOU WOULD |
| 00:20:56 | FIGHT IT IN COURT?
>> WE WOULD BRING A LAWSUIT. |
| 00:20:58 | THE EXCHANGE IS SET UP FOR
JANUARY 2014. |
| 00:21:04 | IT DOES NOT LOOK LIKE THAT TIME
LINE WILL BE MET. |
| 00:21:07 | IT IS NOT CLEAR WHAT THE
ADMINISTRATION WILL DO. |
| 00:21:10 | WE ARE STRONGLY SUGGESTING THAT
THEY DID NOT SET UP AN EXCHANGE, |
| 00:21:14 | OR THAT WE DO NOT HAVE THE MONEY
TO ADDRESS MEDICAID. |
| 00:21:20 | >> YOU ARE WORKING WITH A GROUP
IN NORTH COLUMBUS THAT IS TRYING |
| 00:21:24 | TO TAKE A PROVISION PASSED IN
MARCH BACK FOR REPEAL. |
| 00:21:29 | THIS IS THE FIRST TIME YOU HAVE
BEEN WORKING WITH A GROUP LIKE |
| 00:21:32 | THAT.
I AM WONDERING, WHY? |
| 00:21:34 | >> WE FOUND THE PLANE KILLED
BETWEEN TAXPAYERS AND TAX |
| 00:21:42 | RAISERS AT THE LOCAL LEVEL,
PARTICULARLY ON SCHOOL DISTRICT |
| 00:21:44 | ISSUES, IS NOT EVEN CLOSE TO
EVEN. |
| 00:21:48 | THESE TAXPAYERS FIGHT AGAINST
THESE LEVIES, THEY RECOMMEND |
| 00:21:53 | SPENDING CUTS THAT THEIR
DISTRICTS CAN MAKE IN ORDER TO |
| 00:21:55 | BE MORE FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE.
THEY DID BEAT OVER THE HEAD WITH |
| 00:22:00 | THIS, IT IS FOR THE KIDS MANTRA,
NO MATTER HOW MUCH THE |
| 00:22:06 | ADMINISTRATORS AND EMPLOYERS ARE
MAKING, WHICH IS 90% OF THE |
| 00:22:09 | COST.
RIGHT NOW, A SCHOOL BOARD CAN |
| 00:22:13 | BRING A LEVY OF UP TO THREE
TIMES A YEAR TO RAISE YOUR |
| 00:22:17 | TAXES.
YOU CAN SAY NO OVER THOSE TWO |
| 00:22:22 | YEARS, AND THEN THEY CAN GET YOU
ON THE SIXTH TIME AT A SPECIAL |
| 00:22:26 | LAW ELECTION WHEN THE VOTER
TURNOUT IS LOW. |
| 00:22:27 | THAT IS WHAT THE SPECIAL
INTEREST GROUPS TELL THEM TO DO. |
| 00:22:31 | PUT THIS ON AN AUGUST ELECTION
WHEN NOBODY VOTES. |
| 00:22:34 | WHAT WE ULTIMATELY WANT IS ONE
ELECTION PER YEAR TO DETERMINE |
| 00:22:40 | YOUR TAX RATE, THE NOVEMBER
ELECTION WHEN EVERYONE VOTES |
| 00:22:44 | COME AND GIVE EVERYONE AN
OPPORTUNITY TO VOTE. |
| 00:22:46 | WHAT WE ALSO WANT TO DO IS LEVEL
THE PLAYING FIELD IN THE |
| 00:22:50 | INTERIM, GIVE PEOPLE A TOOL TO
FIGHT BACK AND KEEP MORE OF THE |
| 00:22:54 | MONEY THAT THEY EARNED.
WESTERVILLE IS A GREAT PLACE TO |
| 00:23:00 | DO THAT BECAUSE THE SCHOOL
OFFICIALS ARE PAID VERY WELL. |
| 00:23:03 | IT WOULD MAKE MORE SENSE FOR
THEM TO AT LEAST NOT TAKE PAY |
| 00:23:08 | INCREASES THAN TO PASS THEM ONTO
THE STRUGGLING TAXPAYER. |
| 00:23:11 | >> SAID THIS ABOUT THE LAST TIME
YOU ARE INVOLVED IN THIS? |
| 00:23:13 | >> WE HOPE TO DO THIS AS MANY
TIMES AS WE CAN RUN THE STATE. |
| 00:23:18 | >> A LOT OF THIS ROUTE HAS BEEN
BROUGHT DOWN FROM THE KASICH |
| 00:23:23 | ADMINISTRATION AND THE DRACONIAN
CUTS THEY HAVE HAD. |
| 00:23:26 | AND IT IS FOR THE KIDS BECAUSE
RIGHT NOW ALL OF THESE CUTS WILL |
| 00:23:30 | AFFECT PEOPLE IN A MAJOR WAY,
BOTH AT THE SCHOOL LEVEL AND |
| 00:23:35 | THAT THE GOVERNMENT LEVEL.
WE HAVE A SITUATION WHERE WE |
| 00:23:38 | HAVE EXCESS MONEY.
THE GOVERNOR REFUSES TO GIVE ANY |
| 00:23:41 | RELIEF TO THESE LOCAL
GOVERNMENTS. |
| 00:23:43 | THIS HERE IS WHERE IT WILL
REALLY BE FELT, THE LACK OF |
| 00:23:48 | CORPORATE GOVERNANCE MONEY.
>> INDEED, YOU DID HAVE LEVEES. |
| 00:23:54 | PAST WEEK, 70% OF THEM FAILED.
>> THIS WILL BE THE YEAR WERE |
| 00:23:59 | ALL OF THESE CUTS THAT KASICH
HAS BROUGHT DOWN ON THE LOCAL |
| 00:24:04 | LEVEL WILL BE FELT.
PEOPLE WILL BE THERE REALIZE |
| 00:24:09 | THEIR POLICE, FIRE, SCHOOLS WILL
ALL GO THROUGH THEIR CUTS, OR |
| 00:24:12 | THEY WILL HAVE TO RAISE LOCAL
TAXES. |
| 00:24:13 | THAT IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU
ARE THE GOVERNOR AND YOU SAY YOU |
| 00:24:18 | WANT TO TAKE TAXES -- CUT TAXES,
BUT YOU DID NOT, BUT YOU JUST |
| 00:24:22 | PUSH THEM ONTO THE LOCALS.
>> THE STRICKLAND |
| 00:24:27 | ADMINISTRATION'S STATE BUDGETS
WERE ACTUALLY MUCH SMALLER THAN |
| 00:24:30 | THE KASICH ADMINISTRATION'S
STATE BUDGET, WHICH MAY BE SHOWS |
| 00:24:35 | THE VALUE OF SPLIT GOVERNMENT
NURSES ONE-PARTY CONTROL. |
| 00:24:38 | WHAT THE ADMINISTRATION'S LAST
BUDGET DID WHAT DRAMATICALLY |
| 00:24:43 | INCREASE THE SIZE OF STATE
GOVERNMENT. |
| 00:24:45 | IN ORDER TO DO THAT, THEY CUT
THE ASSISTANCE TO LOCAL |
| 00:24:48 | GOVERNMENTS.
WHILE IT DID NOT NORMALLY RAISE |
| 00:24:52 | TAXES, THE EFFECT IS TO PUSH ALL
THOSE CUTS DOWN TO THE LOCAL |
| 00:24:56 | LEVEL.
NOW WE HAVE ARMAGEDDON AT THE |
| 00:24:59 | LOCAL LEVEL OR WHETHER TO RAISE
TAXES. |
| 00:25:01 | MAYBE THE KASICH ADMINISTRATION
HAS NOT RAISED TAXES, PER SAY, |
| 00:25:08 | BUT THEY HAVE GIVEN MATCHES OVER
TO LOCAL GOVERNMENTS. |
| 00:25:13 | >> EVEN THOUGH THE GOVERNOR HAS
URGED LOCAL GOVERNMENTS TO NOT |
| 00:25:17 | PUT LEVIES ON THE BALLOT, NOT
RAISE TAXES. |
| 00:25:20 | >> YOU CAN SAY THAT, BUT WHAT HE
HAS DONE HAS BEEN THE OPPOSITE. |
| 00:25:23 | IT WOULD HAVE MADE MORE SENSE TO
CONTINUE LOCAL ASSISTANTS AND |
| 00:25:28 | CUT AT THE STATE LEVEL
TO MAKE IT EVEN. |
| 00:25:33 | >> WELL, WE AND THE AGREEMENT
WITH U TWO. |
| 00:25:37 | GREAT.
THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. |
| 00:25:39 | AND THAT'S IT FOR THIS WEEK.
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