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00:00:01>> SUPPORT FOR THE STATEWIDE
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AND FROM THE OHIO EDUCATION
00:00:21ASSOCIATION, REPRESENTING
120,000 MEMBERS WHO WORK TO
00:00:23INSPIRE THEIR STUDENTS TO THINK
CREATIVELY AND EXPERIENCE THE
00:00:26JOY OF LEARNING.
KAREN: MEDICAL MARIJUANA IS
00:00:30NEARLY READY FOR A VOTE AT THE
STATEHOUSE.
00:00:31GOVERNOR JOHN KASICH COMES BACK
TO OHIO FROM THE PRESIDENTIAL
00:00:35CAMPAIGN TRAIL FOR GOOD.
ALL THIS WEEKEND, "THE STATE OF
00:00:37OHIO."
00:00:39KAREN: NEXT WEEK WILL BE
HISTORIC AT THE STATEHOUSE.
00:00:52A PROPOSAL TO LEGALIZE MEDICAL
MARIJUANA IN OHIO HAS CLEARED A
00:00:55LEGISLATIVE PANEL AND IS HEADED
FOR A FULL HOUSE VOTE.
00:00:59THE BILL WOULD BAR PATIENTS FROM
SMOKING MARIJUANA, BUT ALLOW
00:01:03THEM TO USE IT IN VAPOR FORM.
IT WOULD ALLOW MEDICAL MARIJUANA
00:01:07AND AND DOUBLES, OILS, AND OTHER
PRODUCTS.
00:01:09UNDER THE LEGISLATION, A
NINE-MEMBER MEDICAL MARIJUANA
00:01:14CONTROL COMMISSION WILL SET THE
RULES FOR CULTIVATING,
00:01:16DISTRIBUTING, AND LICENSING
CANNABIS.
00:01:17COMMUNITIES COULD OPT OUT OF
HOSTING DISPENSARIES.
00:01:21REPRESENTATIVE KIRK SCHURING OF
CANCER IN --
00:01:28>> I THINK WE'VE GOT A GOOD
PLAN, IT'S MOST IMPORTANT POINT
00:01:35IS TO MAKE SURE IT IS SAFE AND
EFFICACIOUS FOR THE PEOPLE IN
00:01:41OHIO WHO WANT TO USE THIS AS AN
ALTERNATIVE FORM OF MEDICINE.
00:01:43KAREN: HE'S A JUST THE MAJORITY
OF OHIO IS IN FAVOR OF USING
00:01:47MARIJUANA FOR MEDICINAL
PURPOSES.
00:01:48THERE ARE AT LEAST TWO PROPOSALS
FOR VALID ISSUES THIS FALL THAT
00:01:53WOULD LEGALIZE MARIJUANA.
BOTH ARE IN THE SIGNATURE
00:01:55GATHERING STAGE.
ORGANIZERS HAVE SAID THEY DON'T
00:02:00PLAN TO ABANDON THEIR PROPOSALS
IF LEGISLATION PASSES.
00:02:01A BILL THAT WOULD BAN LOCAL
HIRING QUOTAS AND RESTRICT LABOR
00:02:06AGREEMENTS FOR LOCAL COMMUNITY
PROJECTS IS PASSED THE HOUSE.
00:02:11THE BILL FROM REPUBLICAN SENATOR
JOE UECKER OF CINCINNATI WOULD
00:02:15BAN COMMUNITIES FROM REQUIRING
LOCAL WORKERS BE USED ON
00:02:17STATE-FUNDED PUBLIC CONSTRUCTION
PROJECTS.
00:02:18UECKER SAYS IT WOULD MAKE THE
PROCESS OF AWARDING CONTRACTS
00:02:28MORE FAIR.
BUT ANOTHER SAID THAT IT
00:02:38JEOPARDIZES JOBS AND
DESTABILIZES LOCAL ECONOMY.
00:02:39>> IT IS ONE OF THOSE SOLUTIONS
IN SEARCH OF A PROBLEM.
00:02:43KAREN: BECAUSE THE HOUSE MADE
CHANGES TO THE VERSION THAT
00:02:51PASSED IN THE SENATE LAST JUNE,
IT WILL GO TO A CONFERENCE
00:02:54COMMITTEE BEFORE THE GOVERNOR'S
DESK.
00:02:57A SIMILAR MEASURE HAD BEEN PUT
BY REPUBLICANS INTO LAST YEAR'S
00:02:59BUDGET.
THE DEMOCRATIC CLEVELAND SENATOR
00:03:03AGREED TO VOTE FOR THE BUDGET IF
IT WEREN'T REMOVED.
00:03:05THE STATE'S HIGHEST COURT WILL
DECIDE WHETHER INTERNET
00:03:09RETAILERS WHICH HAVE NO OFFICES
OR EMPLOYEES IN OHIO CONSOLE
00:03:12PRODUCTS -- BUT SO PRODUCTS TO
OUR OHIO RESIDENTS HAVE TO PAY A
00:03:18TAX THAT NEARLY ALL OHIO
BUSINESSES HAVE TO PAY.
00:03:19THE THREE ONLINE RETAILERS,
NEWEGG, CRITCHFIELD, AND MASON
00:03:28FIELD COMPANIES, SAY THEY DON'T
HAVE OFFICES HERE AND THEY
00:03:31SHOULD NOT HAVE TO PAY THE
COMMERCIAL TAX.
00:03:33THE TAX IS RELATED TO THE
PRIVILEGE OF DOING BUSINESS IN
00:03:41OHIO.
THE ETAILERS ATTORNEY DISPUTED
00:03:44WHETHER THE COMPANIES ACTUALLY
DID THAT, BUT HE SAID THE BOTTOM
00:03:47LINE FOR THE ETAILERS IS THAT
PREVIOUS U.S. SUPREME COURT
00:03:53CASES HAVE SAID INDIVIDUAL
STATES DO NOT HAVE THE AUTHORITY
00:03:55TO IMPOSE TAXES ON BUSINESSES
THAT AREN'T PHYSICALLY LOCATED
00:03:59IN OHIO.
EISENSTEIN TOLD THE JUSTICE THAT
00:04:04IS TRUE, EVEN IN AN AGE WHERE
BUSINESSES IN ONE STATE OR EVEN
00:04:07ANOTHER COUNTRY CAN SELL TO
CUSTOMERS ANYWHERE ON EARTH.
00:04:09>> IF THOSE THINGS NEED TO BE
CHANGED AS A RESULT OF CHANGING
00:04:13TIMES, TO BE FAIR TO THE
INDIVIDUAL RETAILERS, OTHER
00:04:19INDIVIDUAL RETAILERS IN THE
STATE, THAT IS UP TO CONGRESS TO
00:04:21CHANGE.
>> SO YOU ARE REALLY ARGUING THE
00:04:25LONG GAME HERE MORE THAN THE
IMPACT ON THE CLIENTS.
00:04:28>> THAT'S ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.
THIS IS A QUESTION OF THE
00:04:32BURDENS ON INTERSTATE COMMERCE,
AND THAT IS THE LONG GAME.
00:04:34KAREN: ARGUING FOR THE STATE TAX
DEPARTMENT, HE SAID THE FEDERAL
00:04:40GOVERNMENT HAS WEIGHED IN ON
WHETHER STATES HAVE POWER TO
00:04:43LEVY A TAX LIKE OHIO DOES.
>> IS NOT A NATIONAL PROBLEM.
00:04:47THE SUPREME COURT HAS ALREADY
SAID THAT STATES MAY ASK FOR
00:04:50THEIR FAIR SHARE FROM COMPANIES
DOING BUSINESS IN THE STATE.
00:04:52THIS IS NOT AS IT HAS BEEN
PRESENTED IN OVER REACH TO GRAB
00:04:59OUT OF STATORS.
THE COMMERCIAL ACTIVITY TAX WAS
00:05:03A SUBSTANTIAL OVERHAUL OF OHIO'S
TAX SYSTEM.
00:05:04KAREN: THE ISSUE WILL LIKELY BE
TAKEN UP AGAIN BY THE U.S.
00:05:12SUPREME COURT.
A RECENT CASE SHOWS THERE ARE
00:05:1419,000 MUNICIPALITIES AND 2600
COUNTIES ACROSS THE COUNTRY
00:05:22THAT COULD IMPOSE SALES AND USE
TAXES SIMILAR TO OHIO'S TAX.
00:05:24A NEW REPORT SHOWS LITTLE
IMPROVEMENT FOR LOW INCOME
00:05:30CHILDREN IN THE STATE'S
APPALACHIAN REGION.
00:05:321 IN 6 KIDS IN OHIO LIVE IN
APPALACHIA, AND THE HIGHEST
00:05:42RATES OF CHILD POVERTY ARE ALL
WITHIN THAT REGION.
00:05:44THAT DOES NOT COME AS A SURPRISE
TO --
00:05:48>> I DON'T THINK THERE IS ANY
SILVER BULLET, ANY $50 MILLION
00:05:55FIGURE WE CAN THROW TO SOLVE THE
PROBLEM.
00:05:57KAREN: WERE PUBLIC AND PRIVATE
PARTNERSHIPS ARE NEEDED IN THE
00:06:01REGION TO ADDRESS CHALLENGES
RANGING FROM ECONOMIC
00:06:02INSTABILITY TO FOOD INSECURITY
TO EDUCATIONAL DEFICITS.
00:06:08AFTER NINE MONTHS, 13 DEBATES,
HUNDREDS OF SPEECHES, RALLIES
00:06:11AND TOWN HALL MEETINGS, 153 DE
LEGATES, $42 MILLION RAISED AND
00:06:19ONE PRIMARY WIN, GOVERNOR JOHN
KASICH HAS ENDED HIS QUEST FOR
00:06:21THE WHITE HOUSE.
>> I HAVE ALWAYS SAID THAT THE
00:06:23LORD HAS A PURPOSE FOR ME, AS HE
HAS FOR EVERYONE.
00:06:28AS I SPENT MY CAMPAIGN -- SUSPA
IN MY CAMPAIGN TODAY, I HAVE
00:06:36RENEWED DEEPER FAITH THAT THE
LORD WILL SHOW ME THE WAY
00:06:38FURTHER.
KAREN: KASICH ANNOUNCED HIS
00:06:41SUDDEN DECISION TO SUSPEND HIS
CAMPAIGN FOR THE REPUBLICAN
00:06:44NOMINATION FOR PRESIDENT AFTER
HE CAME IN THIRD IN THE INDIANA
00:06:48PRIMARY.
CRUZ LEFT THE RACE JUST HOURS
00:07:03AFTER THE INDIANA PRIMARY WAS
CALLED FOR DONALD TRUMP, WHICH
00:07:06HAPPENED MINUTES AFTER THE POLLS
CLOSED.
00:07:07THAT HAPPENED -- THAT LEFT ONLY
TRUMP AND KASICH IN THE CONTEST.
00:07:12KASICH SAID TUESDAY NIGHT HE WAS
STAYING IN.
00:07:18THEN CAME WEDNESDAY NIGHT.
HE CANCELED AN EVENT AND RETURN
00:07:20TO COLUMBUS.
HE MET WITH REPORTERS AT A
00:07:22HASTILY GATHERED MEETING,
ANNOUNCING HE WOULD BE RETURNING
00:07:30TO CAPITOL SQUARE AND ABANDONING
HIS CAMPAIGN.
00:07:31>> NOBODY HAS EVER DONE MORE
WITH LESS IN THE HISTORY OF
00:07:35POLITICS THAN WHAT THE STAFF HAS
DONE.
00:07:37I MEAN, IT'S KIND OF ALWAYS BEEN
THIS WAY.
00:07:43IT'S BEEN A MYSTERY TO ME, OTHER
THAN TO SAY THAT I LIKE TO THINK
00:07:48THAT THEY THINK THEY HAVE BEEN
PART OF SOMETHING BIGGER THAN
00:07:50THEMSELVES.
AND WE ALL WANT TO BE PART OF
00:07:54SOMETHING BIGGER THAN OURSELVES.
I THINK WE DO IT WITH HONESTY
00:07:59AND INTEGRITY.
KAREN: KSAICH THANKED HIS FAMILY
00:08:05AND THE VOLUNTEERS AND DONORS TO
HIS CAMPAIGN, WHILE NOTING HE
00:08:08WAS OUTSPENT 50 T0 1.
>> AS FOR MY BELOVED OHIO, THE
00:08:13PEOPLE HERE -- I CANNOT TELL YOU
HOW MUCH I APPRECIATE THE
00:08:23OPPORTUNITY THAT YOU HAVE GIVEN
ME TO BE A LEADER IN THE STATE.
00:08:27THE PEOPLE OF OHIO HAVE GIVEN ME
THE GREATEST PROFESSIONAL
00:08:33EXPERIENCE OF MY LIFETIME.
I HAVE TRIED TO PAY THEM BACK.
00:08:37KAREN: KASICH RECALLED SOME OF
HIS FAVORITE EXPERIENCES FROM
00:08:42THE ROAD AND RETOLD SEVERAL
STORIES HE HEARD AT THE MANY
00:08:44TOWN HALL EVENTS HE HAD HAD.
>> STORIES LIKE THIS OCCURRED
00:08:49ALL ACROSS OUR COUNTRY.
I THINK IT'S FRANKLY BECAUSE,
00:08:54FOR WHATEVER REASON, GOD GAVE ME
THE GRACE TO MAKE PEOPLE FEEL
00:08:56SAFE AND COMFORTABLE.
AND THEY CAME TO THESE TOWN
00:09:00HALLS, WHICH WERE -- THEY WERE
ABSOLUTELY MAGIC.
00:09:04KAREN: KASICH IMPLIED HE WILL
APPROACH THINGS DIFFERENTLY NOW.
00:09:10>> THE PEOPLE OF OUR COUNTRY
CHANGED ME.
00:09:14THEY CHANGED ME WITH THE STORIES
OF THEIR LIVES.
00:09:17KAREN: KASICH REITERATED THE
MESSAGE THAT HE HAS CARRIED MOST
00:09:21OF THE TIME THROUGHOUT HIS
CAMPAIGN, THAT HE WAS THE
00:09:24SO-CALLED ADULT IN THE ROOM AND
WANTS TO BRING PEOPLE FROM BOTH
00:09:26PARTIES TOGETHER.
>> I BELIEVE WE ALL NEED TO LIVE
00:09:29A LIFE BIGGER THAN OURSELVES.
WE NEED TO LIVE A LIFE A LITTLE
00:09:34BIT BIGGER THAN OURSELVES.
WE NEED TO REACH OUT TO HELP
00:09:39LIFT SOMEONE ELSE, BECAUSE YOU
KNOW WHAT, IT COMES TO US
00:09:42NATURALLY IF WE LET IT.
WE ARE, AS HUMAN BEINGS, KIND OF
00:09:48HARD-WIRED TO WANT TO GIVE
SOMEONE ELSE A LIFT, GIVE
00:09:54SOMEONE ELSE AN OPPORTUNITY.
KAREN: KASICH ADMITTED WHAT
00:09:58SOUNDED LIKE A VEILED SLAM ON
THE LAST CANDIDATE STANDING,
00:10:01DONALD TRUMP.
HIS WORDS WERE OFTEN LOST IN THE
00:10:04NOISE OF THE OVERALL CAMPAIGN.
>> THE ESSENCE OF AMERICA LIES
00:10:09IN THE HEARTS AND SOULS OF US.
YOU SEE, SOME MIST OF THIS
00:10:17MESSAGE.
IT WASN'T SEXY.
00:10:18IT WASN'T A GREAT SOUNDBITE.
KAREN: KASICH'S ONLY HOPE FROM
00:10:26THE NOMINATION WAS TO STOP TRUMP
FROM GETTING THE NEEDED
00:10:29DELEGATES, WHICH WOULD BRING
ABOUT A CONTESTED CONVENTION IN
00:10:32CLEVELAND IN JULY.
KASICH HAD ONLY ONE PRIMARY WIN,
00:10:35OHIO.
THE FACT THAT HE COULD NOT WIN
00:10:39ENOUGH DELEGATES THROUGH
PRIMARIES WAS NOT NEW.
00:10:41CRITICS AND PUNDITS HAVE BEEN
CALLING FOR KASICH TO GET OUT OF
00:10:42THE RACE.
KASICH NEVER CLEARLY SAID WHAT
00:10:51LED HIM TO ABANDON HIS CAMPAIGN.
OHIO REPUBLICAN CHAIRMAN HAS
00:10:56BEEN BEHIND KASICH SINCE THE
BEGINNING.
00:10:57>> HE KNEW IT WAS TIME, AND HE
WAS COMFORTABLE WITH THE STATE
00:11:02OF AFFAIRS.
WE ALSO ARE REALISTIC ABOUT WHAT
00:11:06THE DELEGATE MAP MEANT.
EVERYONE IS VERY PROUD OF OUR
00:11:11GOVERNOR AND HIS EFFORT.
NO ONE HAS ANYTHING TO BE
00:11:13ASHAMED OF.
HE HELPED CARRY THE MESSAGE
00:11:16ABOUT OHIO ACROSS THE COUNTRY, A
TURNAROUND STORY, A SUCCESS
00:11:20STORY THAT HE HAS HELPED LEAD IT
HERE.
00:11:21NOT A BAD CONSOLATION PRIZE TO
HAVE THE BEST GOVERNOR IN THE
00:11:25COUNTRY COME BACK HERE, AND WE
ARE SO THANKFUL THAT HE IS OUR
00:11:33GOVERNOR AND VERY PROUD OF THE
EFFORT HE PUT FORWARD TO BECOME
00:11:35OUR PRESIDENT.
KAREN: KASICH WITH THE SECOND TO
00:11:39LAST CANDIDATE OF THE 17 TOP
REPUBLICAN CONTENDERS TO ENTER
00:11:43THE RACE WHEN HE DID LAST JULY.
NOW HE'S THE SECOND TO LAST ONE
00:11:46TO LEAVE IT.
OHIO'S DEMOCRATS ARE MOSTLY
00:11:49PLEASED THAT TRUMP WILL LIKELY
BE THEIR CANDIDATE'S OPPONENT
00:11:52THIS FALL.
THE HEAD OF THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY
00:11:56DAVID PEPPER SAID HE'S HOPING
THE KIND, GENTLE PERSONA THAT
00:11:59KASICH EMBODIED ON THE
PRESIDENTIAL CAMPAIGN TRAIL WILL
00:12:02BE EVIDENT NOW AS HE COMES BACK
TO OHIO.
00:12:03>> THERE ARE MANY OPPORTUNITIES
FOR HIM TO SHOW, NOT JUST
00:12:07THROUGH THE TONE OF WHAT HE
SAYS, BUT ACTUAL POLICY CHANGES
00:12:10-- I AM DIFFERENT, I HAVE A
DIFFERENT APPROACH, I WANT TO
00:12:14GET THINGS DONE.
I THINK IT IS SORT OF A MOMENT
00:12:19WHERE WE CAN SEE, WAS IT ALL
RHETORIC, OR DID HE ACTUALLY
00:12:22CHANGE LIKE HE IS SAYING HE
WOULD.
00:12:23KAREN: PEPPER SAID HE IS HOPING
KASICH WILL PROD STATE LAWMAKERS
00:12:29TO FIX CONGRESSIONAL
REDISTRICTING, GIVE MORE CONTROL
00:12:33OF FUNDS BACK TO LOCAL
COMMUNITIES, AND DO MORE TO FIX
00:12:37THE STATE'S CHARTER AND PUBLIC
SCHOOLS.
00:12:39KASICH'S DEPARTURE LEAVES A
REPUBLICAN LEADERS SUPPORTING
00:12:43HIM TO ANSWER ONE QUESTION --
WHO WILL THEY BACK NOW?
00:12:44BOTH CAMPAIGN FOR KASICH IN NEW
HAMPSHIRE AND OTHER STATE
00:12:54STRAIGHT SABR HINTED HE WOULD BE
RETURNING -- -- HE WOULD BE
00:12:55HURTING -- TURNING TOWARDS TRUMP
NOW.
00:12:58>> MRS. CLINTON I DON'T THINK
WOULD DO A GOOD JOB AS PRESIDENT
00:13:03AND MR. TROTWOOD.
KAREN: ROSENBERGER CAUTIONED
00:13:08UNTIL THE CONVENTION IN
CLEVELAND, THE NOMINATION IS
00:13:09STILL UP IN THE AIR.
>> THERE'S NOBODY ELSE IN THE
00:13:11RACE RIGHT NOW.
HE IS OUR PRESENT OF NOMINEE AS
00:13:15IT CONTINUES TO GO FORWARD AND
WE WILL CONTINUE TO SEE WHAT
00:13:17HAPPENS.
THERE IS A CONVENTION IN JULY.
00:13:22WE WILL GET TO CLEVELAND AND
HAVE FUN THERE.
00:13:23IT'S PRETTY OBVIOUS WITH
GOVERNOR KASICH NOW OUT AND
00:13:28SENATOR CRUZ, THAT DONALD TRUMP
WILL BE THE PRESUMPTIVE NOMINEE
00:13:35OF THE PARTY.
HE'S NOT KAREN: THERE YET, OF
00:13:37COURSE.
A BIGGER PROBLEM LOOMS FOR
00:13:40REPUBLICANS IN OHIO AND
ELSEWHERE.
00:13:42SOME PROMINENT PARTY FIGURES
HAVE SAID WE CANNOT SUPPORT
00:13:43DONALD TRUMP, INCLUDING THE
STATE AUDITOR AND THE FRANKLIN
00:13:45COUNTY AUDITOR, WHO TALKED ABOUT
THAT IN A CONFERENCE CALL IN
00:13:53MARCH.
GORGEOUS AGO THE LINE THAT THE
00:13:54NOMINEE WILL GET THE PARTY'S
SUPPORT, FOR A BIG REASON.
00:13:57>> WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE WE SEND
ROB FORMANT BACK TO THE UNITED
00:14:01STATES SENATE.
WE WILL SUPPORT THE NOMINEE,
00:14:06WHOEVER THAT IS.
WORST THING I CAN THINK OF WOULD
00:14:08BE HILLARY CLINTON PUTTING HER
HAND ON THE BIBLE AND TAKING THE
00:14:10OATH OF OFFICE IN JANUARY OF
NEXT YEAR.
00:14:11KAREN: IF CURRENT POLLS HOLD,
THERE COULD BE TROUBLE AHEAD FOR
00:14:17SENATOR ROB PORTMAN'S REELECTION
BID COULD NEARLY EVERY MAJOR
00:14:21POLL SHOWS PRESUMPTIVE
DEMOCRATIC NOMINEE HILLARY
00:14:24CLINTON BEATING DONALD TRUMP.
MAJOR POLLS HAVE SHOWN BERNIE
00:14:26SANDERS AS A DOUBLE-DIGIT LEAD
OVER TRUMP.
00:14:29IF SENDERS CAN WIN THE UPHILL
BATTLE HE FACES FOR THE
00:14:34DEMOCRATIC NOMINATION.
THERE HAVE BEEN 17 ELECTIONS IN
00:14:38OHIO THAT HAD BOTH PRESIDENTS
AND UNITED STATES SENATOR IN THE
00:14:39SAME YEAR.
ONLY FOR TIMES HAS A PARTY WON
00:14:43THE PRESIDENCY AND LOST THE U.S.
SENATE RACE IN OHIO.
00:14:45ONLY ONCE IN 1940 DID A
REPUBLICAN WIN THE SENATE WHEN A
00:14:49DEMOCRAT WON THE PRESIDENCY.
I AM PLEASED TO WELCOME A
00:14:55PROFESSOR OF POLITICAL SCIENCE
AT THE UNIVERSITY OF CINCINNATI
00:14:56TO TALK ABOUT KASICH'S NOW DEAD
CAMPAIGN AND WHAT HAPPENS NEXT.
00:15:00THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.
ARE YOU SURPRISED AT THE TIMING,
00:15:03THAT KASICH STAYED IN THIS LONG,
THAT HE QUIT AT ALL?
00:15:07>> THERE IS A CERTAIN SURPRISING
ELEMENT TO WHY NOW.
00:15:10HE HAD LOST STATE AFTER STATE
AFTER STATE, AND DONALD TRUMP
00:15:16HAD TURNED HIS NICKNAME FROM
1-35 KASICH INTO 1-41 KASICH.
00:15:20HE HAD SHOWN THE ABILITY TO
ENDURE THESE LOSSES.
00:15:24TO LEAVE NOW -- IT'S ALMOST TO
THE FINISH LINE, WHY NOT JUST
00:15:29RIDE IT OUT?
KAREN: HE TALKED A LOT ABOUT
00:15:33WANTING TO BE SOMEONE WHO UNIFY
THE PARTY AND BEING THE ADULT IN
00:15:35THE ROOM.
DOES THIS FIT WITH THAT THEME,
00:15:39OR TAKE AWAY FROM THE THEME?
THE THEME HAD BEEN, DONALD TRUMP
00:15:44IS NOT THE RIGHT PERSON.
GUEST: IT'S A LITTLE SURPRISING.
00:15:49WITH TED CRUZ LEAVING THE RACE,
THIS COULD HAVE BEEN HIS MOMENT.
00:15:52THERE'S A LOT OF REPUBLICANS WHO
HAVE NEVER PAID ATTENTION TO THE
00:15:55KASICH CANDIDACY BUT ALMOST
WOULD HAVE BEEN FORCED TO.
00:15:58THE KASICH TEAM SEEMS TO BE
SAYING THAT CRUZ DROPPING OUT
00:16:06PRESSURED THEM TO DROP OUT,
WHICH IS REALLY
00:16:08COUNTERINTUITIVE.
YOU WOULD THINK THIS IS WHAT YOU
00:16:12ALWAYS WANTED.
KAREN: IN THE DELEGATE COUNT,
00:16:15KASICH WAS STILL BEHIND TED CRUZ
AND MARCO RUBIO, WHO DROPPED OUT
00:16:20IN MARCH.
GUEST: TO THE EXTENT THAT THE
00:16:30REPUBLICANS HAVE ANY CHANCE OF
AN ALTERNATIVE, SOMEBODY HAS TO
00:16:34WIN SOME DELEGATES BESIDES
DONALD TRUMP, AND NOW WE WILL DO
00:16:37-- WE KNOW THAT WON'T HAPPEN.
KAREN: THIS IS KASICH'S SECOND
00:16:40RUN FOR THE WHITE HOUSE.
THERE ARE VERY FEW PEOPLE WHO
00:16:46HAVE RUN TWICE.
DOES THIS DAMAGE HIM IF HE
00:16:48WANTED TO RUN AGAIN IN 2020?
GUEST: IN THE OLD REPUBLICAN
00:16:54PARTY, WHERE THEY USED TO GO TO
THE NEXT ADULT IN LINE TO BE THE
00:16:56NOMINEE, IT WOULD NOT DAMAGE HIM
AT ALL.
00:17:00BOB DOLE RAN THREE TIMES AND GOT
THE NOMINATION ON HIS THIRD RUN.
00:17:02IN THE NEW REPUBLICAN PARTY, THE
ONE THAT HAS KASICH TIED UP IN
00:17:08KNOTS RIGHT NOW, IT PROBABLY IS
DAMAGING THAT HE IS YESTERDAY'S
00:17:11NEWS AND REALLY, THE LARGER
ISSUE IS IF YOU LOOK AT JOHN
00:17:15KASICH'S CAMPAIGN, WHAT HE WAS
TALKING ABOUT, THE WAY HE
00:17:20PRESENTED HIMSELF -- HE COULD
HAVE RUN THIS SAME CAMPAIGN WHEN
00:17:22HE RAN 16 YEARS AGO.
HE IS STILL RUNNING FOR THAT
00:17:26REPUBLICAN PARTY, AND THAT WAS
ONE OF THE FUNDAMENTAL
00:17:29MISCALCULATIONS.
HE'S RUNNING FOR A PARTY WHERE
00:17:31RESUMES AND HUGS MIGHT HAVE
GOTTEN HIM SOMEWHERE.
00:17:33THAT'S NOT THE KIND OF FOLKS WHO
SHOW UP IN THE PRIMARY TODAY.
00:17:36KAREN: NOW WE LOOK FORWARD TO
THE REPUBLICAN NATIONAL
00:17:41CONVENTION IN JULY.
DOES THIS TAKE AWAY ALL THE
00:17:44FEARS OF VIOLENCE?
DOES IT TAKE AWAY THE
00:17:45EXPECTATION OF OF EXCITEMENT?
WHAT HAPPENS TO THE RNC?
00:17:49GUEST: YOU CAN IMAGINE
EVERYTHING WILL BE PEACE AND
00:17:55LOVE --
KAREN: PROTESTERS ARE AT EVERY
00:18:02CONVENTION.
GUEST: THERE ARE MAINSTREAM
00:18:05REPUBLICANS WHO DON'T WANT TROT
AS THEIR NOMINEE, WHO COULD
00:18:09SPEAK OUT AGAINST HIM FROM THE
PODIUM.
00:18:10KAREN: SOME ARE SPEAKING UP BY
NOT SHOWING UP.
00:18:13GUEST: THE FIRST STEP WE HAVE
SEEN IS REPUBLICANS DISASSOCIATE
00:18:18-- DISASSOCIATING THEMSELVES
FROM THEIR OWN CONVENTION.
00:18:21WHEN THE DEMOCRATIC CONVENTION
FELL APART, IT WAS DEMOCRATS IN
00:18:26THE HALL ATTACKING THE PARTY.
THAT IS A SIGNIFICANT
00:18:29POSSIBILITY.
THE SECURITY MAY BE ABLE TO KEEP
00:18:33THE HIPPIE PROTESTERS OUT OF THE
BUILDING, BUT THEY CAN'T KEEP A
00:18:38SENATOR FROM NEBRASKA DENOUNCING
THE TICKET FROM THE BUILDING OR
00:18:43ANYBODY ELSE FROM INSIDE THE
PARTY WHO WANTS TO SAY, THIS IS
00:18:45WRONG.
KAREN: WE HAVE BEEN TALKING
00:18:50ABOUT A CONTESTED CONVENTION FOR
THE REPUBLICANS FOR MONTHS NOW.
00:18:51NOW IT APPEARS THAT WILL NOT
HAPPEN.
00:18:53ON THE OTHER SIDE, WE COULD HAVE
IT WITH THE DEMOCRATS, MAYBE.
00:19:01BERNIE SANDERS IS RAISING THAT
AS A POSSIBILITY.
00:19:02GUEST: BERNIE IS STILL CHUGGING
ALONG.
00:19:05HE'S NOT ACTUALLY GETTING
ANYWHERE.
00:19:09HE IS STAYING IN THE RACE, HE
WON INDIANA.
00:19:14HE IS STILL IN THAT SENSE
SUCCEEDING, BUT NOT GETTING
00:19:16ANYWHERE CLOSER TO GETTING
DELEGATES FOR HIM TO BE THE
00:19:19NOMINEE.
IT'S A QUESTION OF HOW FAR DOES
00:19:21HE WANT TO PUSH IT.
UNFORTUNATELY FOR HILLARY
00:19:26CLINTON, ONE OF THE MOTTOS HE
CAN FOLLOW IS HILLARY CLINTON IN
00:19:282008, WHO KEPT GOING ALL THE WAY
TO THE VERY END.
00:19:32FOR BERNIE SANDERS TO JUSTIFY
WHAT HE'S DOING, ALL HE CAN SAY
00:19:36IS, I'M DOING EXACTLY WHAT YOU
DID.
00:19:37IS THIS GOING TO BE AN ACTUAL
CONTESTED CONVENTION?
00:19:41NO.
WILL THERE BE A VOTE CLOSE
00:19:46ENOUGH TO SAY THAT BERNIE
SANDERS REALLY DID COME CLOSE TO
00:19:48THE NOMINATION?
YOU WOULD HAVE TO SAY YES.
00:19:49KAREN: I MENTIONED THERE ARE
POLLS THAT SHOW BOTH HILLARY
00:19:55CLINTON AND BERNIE SANDERS BEAT
DONALD TRUMP IN THE GENERAL
00:19:56ELECTION.
IS THERE ANY CREDIBILITY IN
00:19:59THOSE POLLS?
GUEST: THERE IS STRAIGHT YOU
00:20:05HAVE TO THINK ABOUT WHO DOES
DONALD TRUMP INSPIRE AND WHO
00:20:06WILL RESPOND TO HIM.
THERE IS SO MANY AMERICANS WHO
00:20:10ARE NOT IN THE STANDARD ISSUE
TRUMP VOTER.
00:20:12THERE'S A LOT OF THOSE FOLKS IN
OHIO.
00:20:15THE REAL DANGER FOR THE
REPUBLICANS IS, ALL OF TRUMP'S
00:20:22RHETORIC AND HEAT AND ANGER
MEANS A PLACE LIKE ARIZONA IS IN
00:20:24PLAY FOR DEMOCRATS.
ALL YOU HAVE TO DO TO RUN A
00:20:29CAMPAIGN IS LITERALLY FOR THE
DEMOCRATS, PLAY DONALD TRUMP
00:20:31WORDS.
YOU DON'T NEED ANYTHING ELSE.
00:20:33REMIND FOLKS WHAT HE SAID AND
HOW HE BEHAVES.
00:20:38THIS IS THE DANGER.
HE DOESN'T HAVE THE BEST POLLING
00:20:41NUMBERS WITH WOMEN.
HE DOESN'T HAVE THE BEST POLLING
00:20:47NUMBERS WITH ANY AMERICAN WHO
ISN'T WHITE.
00:20:48THAT MEANS SOME STATES, LIKE
ARIZONA, ALL OF A SUDDEN BECOME
00:20:56RELEVANT TO DEMOCRATS WHO HAD
NOT BEEN IN THE PAST.
00:20:58HERE'S THE BIGGEST IRONY FOR
REPUBLICANS.
00:20:59AFTER MITT ROMNEY LOST IN 2012,
THEY PUT OUT A BIG REPORT ABOUT
00:21:04HOW WE HAVE TO STOP TALKING
ABOUT IMMIGRATION IN HATEFUL
00:21:06WAYS, WE HAVE TO STOP TALKING TO
OURSELVES AND SAYING THINGS THAT
00:21:11MAKE YOUNG PEOPLE ROLL THEIR
EYES.
00:21:12THIS CAMPAIGN IS ALMOST -- A
FICTIONAL MASTERPIECE OF DOING
00:21:18EXACTLY THE OPPOSITE OF WHAT
THEY SAID NEEDED TO BE DONE TO
00:21:20HELP THE PARTY MOVE FORWARD.
KAREN: ISN'T THERE A DANGER THAT
00:21:24DEMOCRATS COULD LOOK AT THIS AND
SAY, THIS IS IN THE BAG, WE
00:21:26DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THIS?
GUEST: HERE'S ANOTHER ODD THING.
00:21:32WE TEND TO SHOW UP AND VOTE MORE
WHEN WE DISLIKE THE CANDIDATES
00:21:38AVAILABLE.
YOU THINK THAT WOULD LEAD PEOPLE
00:21:43AT HOME SAYING, I'M UNINSPIRED.
IF YOU LOOK AT PRESIDENTIAL
00:21:46ELECTIONS OVER THE LAST 40
YEARS, TURNOUT IS HIGHEST WHEN
00:21:49THE APPROVAL RATING OF THE
CANDIDATES IS LOWEST.
00:21:52PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE INSPIRED.
KAREN: ON BOTH SIDES.
00:21:55IF CLINTON IS THE NOMINEE AND
TRUMP IS THE NOMINEE --
00:21:59GUEST: HILLARY CLINTON IS THE
SECOND LEAST POPULAR NOMINEE IN
00:22:06THE HISTORY OF AMERICAN
POLITICS, BUT SHE HAS THE
00:22:09TREMENDOUS ADVANTAGE OF RUNNING
AGAINST THE MOST UNPOPULAR
00:22:12NOMINEE IN THE HISTORY OF
AMERICAN POLITICS.
00:22:13IRONICALLY, WHAT THAT MEANS IS
THERE'S AN AWFUL LOT OF REASONS
00:22:18FOR FOLKS TO GET OUT AND VOTE
AGAINST ONE OR THE OTHER.
00:22:19TURNOUT COULD BE THROUGH THE
ROOF IN A VERY UNHAPPY WAY.
00:22:24KAREN: IF KASICH NOT THE NOMINEE
IN OHIO, DOES THAT PORTEND BAD
00:22:33THINGS FOR THE REPUBLICAN PARTY
IN NOVEMBER IN OHIO?
00:22:35GUEST: IS NOT THE BEST NEWS FOR
THE REPUBLICANS WINNING THE
00:22:39PRESIDENCY THAT TRUMP COULD NOT
WIN OHIO.
00:22:41KAREN: THE DEMOCRATS WON OHIO IN
2008 AND 2012.
00:22:46GUEST: THE KINDS OF FOLKS THAT
DEMOCRATS DEPEND ON SHOW UP
00:22:51EVERY 4 YEARS, EVEN IF THEY
DON'T VOTE IN STATE AND LOCAL
00:22:56ELECTIONS.
WHAT DO REPUBLICANS HAVE TO DO?
00:22:57THEY NEED TO RUN TWO CAMPAIGNS,
THE TRUMP CENTERED CAMPAIGN THAT
00:23:04CAPITALIZES ON WHAT HE HAS TO
OFFER, THEN THEY HAVE TO RUN
00:23:07THEIR REGULAR CAMPAIGN THAT GOES
AFTER THE KIND OF VOTE THAT
00:23:10PORTMAN AND KASICH HAVE BUILT
THEIR CAREER AROUND.
00:23:12THOSE ARE NOT THE SAME KINDS OF
PEOPLE.
00:23:13KAREN: KASICH HAD SAID FOR
SEVERAL WEEKS THAT IF TRUMP IS
00:23:19THE NOMINEE, WE COULD LOSE
EVERYTHING FROM THE COURTHOUSE
00:23:21TO THE STATEHOUSE.
IS THAT A POSSIBILITY?
00:23:23I JUST HAD A STATISTIC SAYING
IT'S ONLY BEEN ONE TIME WHERE A
00:23:28REPUBLICAN HAS WON THE SENATE
WHEN A DEMOCRAT WON THE
00:23:32PRESIDENCY.
GUEST: THIS IS A PROBLEM FOR
00:23:36REPUBLICANS ON THE TICKET.
THE PRESIDENTIAL RACE WILL
00:23:38DICTATE TURNOUT.
EVERYBODY PAYS ATTENTION TO IT.
00:23:42ALL OF THE MEDIA ATTENTION, ALL
THE VOTER ATTENTION, THAT IS
00:23:51WHAT PEOPLE WILL BE THINKING
ABOUT.
00:23:53THAT MEANS EVERY OTHER RACE ON
THE BALLOT IS INFLUENCED BY WHAT
00:23:59HAPPENS AT THE PRESIDENTIAL
LEVEL.
00:24:00DONALD TRUMP IS GOING TO
REPRESENT SOMETHING OF A HARM
00:24:03MOVIE MONSTER.
HE CAN PRETEND IT DOESN'T EXIST,
00:24:09BUT SOMETIME IN THE END HE'S
GOING TO COME AND KNOCK
00:24:11EVERYTHING DOWN AND TRUMPZILLA
CAN'T BE IGNORED.
00:24:14THAT FACTOR WILL DEFINE THE
RACE.
00:24:18I MEAN NO DISRESPECT TO THE
CAMPAIGNS FOR SENATE, BUT
00:24:22PORTMAN AND STRICKLAND COULD
LEAVE THE STATE RIGHT NOW, GO TO
00:24:27THE BAHAMAS AND COME BACK IN
NOVEMBER FOR ALL THE EFFECTS OF
00:24:30THEIR CAMPAIGN WILL HAVE ON
OHIO.
00:24:32IT'S THE UNDERCARD.
KAREN: IT WILL BE ONE OF THE
00:24:36MOST EXTENSIVE SENATE RACES IN
THE COUNTRY BECAUSE DEMOCRATS
00:24:38WILL SEE --
GUEST: THEY WON'T GO TO THE
00:24:42BAHAMAS.
THEY WILL DO THE OPPOSITE.
00:24:43THEY WILL SPEND TENS OF MILLIONS
OF DOLLARS.
00:24:46THEY WILL HAVE TO SPEND MORE
MONEY JUST TO BE HEARD OVER THE
00:24:50PRESIDENTIAL RACE.
THIS WILL BE THE IRONY, FOR A
00:24:53RACE WHERE THE ENTIRETY OF THE
EFFECT OF THE CAMPAIGN WILL BE
00:24:57MINISCULE.
ABSOLUTELY BE MARGINAL.
00:24:58THAT MEANS THEY WILL WORK
HARDER, SPEND MORE, SAY NASTY
00:25:02THINGS ABOUT EACH OTHER.
THE CAMPAIGN WILL BE DESPERATE
00:25:05TO GET PEOPLE'S ATTENTION.
IMAGINE YOU ARE ROBERT PORTMAN
00:25:09AND YOU NEED TO GET PEOPLE
THINKING ABOUT YOUR CAMPAIGN
00:25:12WHILE DONALD TRUMP IS IN THE
STATE OR DONALD TRUMP IS ON THE
00:25:14AIR.
YOU DON'T WANT TO BE WITH TRUMP.
00:25:19YOU DON'T WANT HIM TO SHINE
LIGHT ON YOU.
00:25:22THAT IS AN ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE
PROSPECT.
00:25:26IT WOULD BE HARD FOR ANYBODY.
ROB PORTMAN, TO COMMAND THE
00:25:29STATE'S ATTENTION OVER DONALD
TRUMP -- NONE OF THE OTHER
00:25:34CANDIDATES FOR PRESIDENT WERE
ABLE TO DO THAT.
00:25:35KAREN: FOR THE AVERAGE OHIO AND
WHO IS SICK OF POLITICS SO FAR,
00:25:41IT GETS WORSE FROM HERE.
GUEST: YOU WILL GET A LOT MORE
00:25:44OF THIS.
IN JAPAN, THEIR NATIONAL
00:25:49ELECTION, THE ENTIRE CAMPAIGN
TAKES 12 DAYS.
00:25:50IF IT GETS TOO TERRIBLY BAD, YOU
MIGHT THINK ABOUT RELOCATION.
00:25:55OTHERWISE, NO OHIOAN WILL HAVE A
PEACEFUL MOMENT BETWEEN NOW AND
00:26:01NOVEMBER, BECAUSE THIS CAMPAIGN
WILL COME RIGHT TO US.
00:26:03KAREN: THAT IS IT FOR THIS WEEK.
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