00:00:01>> SUPPORT FOR THE STATEWIDE
BROADCAST OF "THE STATE OF OHIO"
00:00:09COMES FROM OUR LAW OFFICES,
HELPING BUSINESSES AND
00:00:13INDIVIDUALS SOLVE COMPLEX LEGAL
PROBLEMS THROUGHOUT OHIO, ACROSS
00:00:16THE COUNTRY, AND AROUND THE
WORLD.
00:00:18AND FROM THE OHIO EDUCATION
ASSOCIATION, REPRESENTING
00:00:24131,000 TEACHERS SUPPORT
PROFESSIONALS AND HIGHER
00:00:28EDUCATION FACULTY WORKING FOR A
PUBLIC SCHOOLS FOR EVERY CHILD.
00:00:31OHEA.ORG.
ADDITIONAL SUPPORT IS MADE
00:00:36POSSIBLE BY E-TECH OHIO.
>> THE MAP FLAP IS OVER, AS
00:00:42REPUBLICANS AND SOME DEMOCRATS
MAKE A DEAL.
00:00:44THE HEART BE BILL FLAT LINES FOR
NOW.
00:00:48AND THE LEADERS OF THE OHIO
SENATE LOOK BACK ON A VERY BUSY
00:00:51YEAR AND LOOK FORWARD TO WHAT'S
AHEAD FOR 2012.
00:00:54ALL THIS WEEK IN "THE STATE OF
OHIO."
00:00:56CAPTIONED BY THE
NATIONAL CAPTIONING INSTITUTE
00:00:58--WWW.NCICAP.ORG--
OHIOANS WILL VOTE ONLY ONCE FOR
00:01:01PARTY NOMINEE FOR THE
STATEHOUSE, CAPITOL HILL, AND
00:01:04THE WHITE HOUSE.
A LAST-MINUTE DEAL TO SETTLE THE
00:01:07MAP FLAP ON THE LAST WORK DAY OF
2011 FOR LEGISLATORS MERGES THE
00:01:11PRIMARIES FOR STATE LAWMAKERS
AND THE U.S. SENATE, WHICH WERE
00:01:14SET FOR MARCH, AND THE PRIMARIES
FOR CONGRESS AND THE PRESIDENCY,
00:01:17WHICH HAD BEEN SCHEDULED FOR
JUNE, INTO ONE DATE, MARCH 6.
00:01:22BOTH MAJOR POLITICAL PARTIES
GRIPED ABOUT THE DUAL PRIMARY
00:01:26SITUATION.
REPUBLICANS BLAMED DEMOCRATS FOR
00:01:28CREATING THE NEED FOR TWO
PRIMARIES WHEN THEY LAUNCHED A
00:01:32BALLOT DRIVE TO OVERTURN THE
REPUBLICAN-DRAWN MAP OF
00:01:34CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICTS.
DEMOCRATS COMPLAINED THEIR IDEA
00:01:38TO MOVE BOTH PRIMARIES TO JUNE
WAS REJECTED BY REPUBLICANS.
00:01:40THE PROPOSAL TO MOVE ALL THE
PRIMARIES BACK TO MARCH CAME
00:01:44FROM REPUBLICAN REP MATT HUFFMAN
OF LIMA, WHO HELPED RUSH IT
00:01:49THROUGH A HOUSE COMMITTEE
WEDNESDAY AFTERNOON AND THEN TO
00:01:52THE FULL HOUSE.
>> I AM HAPPY TO PRESENT THIS.
00:01:56MAY BE IS A LITTLE BIT OF A
CHRISTMAS GIFT TO THE FOLKS OF
00:01:59THE STATE OF OHIO.
>> THE PROPOSAL ALSO REPLACES
00:02:03THE MAP THAT DEMOCRATS WERE
CHALLENGING WITH THEIR PETITION
00:02:06DRIVE WITH A MAP THAT MAKES
MINOR CHANGES IN COLUMBUS,
00:02:08DAYTON, AND TOLEDO.
IT ESTABLISHES THE DECEMBER 30
00:02:12FILING DEADLINE FOR
PRESIDENTIAL AND CONGRESSIONAL
00:02:15PRIMARY CANDIDATES.
AN INCREASE OF BIPARTISAN
00:02:18REDISTRICTING TASK FORCE THAT
WILL MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS ON
00:02:20CHANGES TO THE PROCESS BY NEXT
SUMMER SOME DEMOCRATS WERE NOT
00:02:24PLEASED, SUCH AS BOB HAGAN OF
YOUNGSTOWN.
00:02:26>> THE REAL GIFT THAT WE GIVE
EVERYBODY WAS A SLAP IN THE FACE
00:02:30TO DEMOCRACY.
WE SHOULD THINK ABOUT WHAT WE
00:02:35ARE DOING, WHAT WE'VE DONE.
WAS IT FAIR THAT SOME OF THESE
00:02:43DISTRICTS WERE CARVED UP IN A
WAY THAT REALLY DILUTES THE
00:02:46OPPORTUNITY TO REPRESENT THEM IN
CONGRESS?
00:02:48>> BUT HUFFMAN SHOT BACK THE
OFTEN-HEARD ARGUMENT THAT
00:02:52DEMOCRATS HAD A CHANCE TO
SUPPORT CHANGES TO THE
00:02:54REDISTRICTING PROCESS WITH A
PROPOSAL LAST YEAR FROM
00:02:57REPUBLICAN SENATOR JON HUSTED,
NOW THE SECRETARY OF STATE.
00:02:59>> IF THOSE THINGS ARE NOT GOING
TO GO FORWARD, CERTAINLY YOU
00:03:05HAVE AN OPTION TO DO THAT.
BUT TO SIMPLY SUGGEST THAT
00:03:07SOMEHOW THE BLAME LIES ON THIS
SIDE OF THE AISLE IS FALSE.
00:03:11AND THOSE WHO ARE SUGGESTING
THAT KNOW THAT.
00:03:15>> ALL HOUSE REPUBLICANS PRESENT
VOTED FOR THE MAC.
00:03:19THE 21 HOUSE DEMOCRATS WHO
JOINED THEM SAID THEY DID SO
00:03:22BECAUSE THE NEW MAP IS AN
IMPROVEMENT OVER THE OLD ONE,
00:03:25AND THE MERGING OF THE PRIMARIES
PREVENTS THE STATE FROM SPENDING
00:03:28THE $15 MILLION THE JUNE VOTE
WAS ESTIMATED TO COST.
00:03:31REP MATT SZOLLOSI IS FROM THE
TOLEDO AREA.
00:03:35>> THIS FIGHT HAS BEEN ABOUT
GIVING ALL HIGH WINDS -- GIVING
00:03:42OHIOANS A STRONGER VOICE IN THE
REDISTRICTING PROCESS, AND TO
00:03:50FORCE A MEANINGFUL DEBATE.
I AM PLEASED THAT PART OF THIS
00:03:53AGREEMENT WILL INCLUDE THE FIRST
STEPS TOWARD A MEANINGFUL, UP
00:03:58BIPARTISAN REFORM FOR
REDISTRICTING IN THE STATE OF
00:04:04OHIO.
>> THE MAP AND PRIMARY BILL
00:04:07PASSED THE HOUSE OVERWHELMINGLY
AND THEN HAD A SIMILAR RESULT IN
00:04:10THE SENATE NOT LONG AFTERWARD.
THE OHIO GOP AND THE OHIO
00:04:13DEMOCRATIC PARTY PUT POSITIVE
SPINS ON THE SITUATION IN PRESS
00:04:17RELEASES.
BOTH PARTY CHAIRS GAVE CREDIT TO
00:04:19THEIR LAWMAKERS FOR CREATING THE
BIPARTISAN TASK FORCE AND FOR
00:04:22SAVING TAXPAYERS THE COST OF THE
JUNE PRIMARY.
00:04:23HEARINGS ON WHAT WOULD BE THE
NATION'S STRICTEST ABORTION BAN
00:04:28HAVE BEEN SUSPENDED AFTER ITS
BACKERS SUBMITTED A LIST OF MORE
00:04:32THAN 20 CHANGES TO THE PROPOSAL.
THE SO-CALLED PART B BILL WOULD
00:04:37OUTLAW ABORTION AFTER A FETAL
HEARTBEAT IS DETECTED, OFTEN AS
00:04:40EARLY AS SIX WEEKS INTO A
PREGNANCY.
00:04:42WHEN I TALK TO SENATE PRESIDENT
NIEHAUS ON TUESDAY, HE HAD JUST
00:04:47SEEN THE LIST OF CHANGES AND
SAID HE STILL BELIEVES THE BILL
00:04:50AS CURRENTLY WRITTEN IS
UNCONSTITUTIONAL.
00:04:53AS PART OF THE YEAR END
INTERVIEW ALONGSIDE SENATE
00:04:55MINORITY LEADER CAPRI CAFARO,
NIEHAUS EXPRESSED SOME
00:04:59FRUSTRATION WITH THE TIMING OF
THESE REVISIONS.
00:05:01>> I MEAN, I'M JUST
FLABBERGASTED THAT AFTER ALL
00:05:05THIS TIME, OF ALL THESE PEOPLE
HAMMERING AWAY AT THE
00:05:08LEGISLATURE, NOW THEY REALIZE
-- THEY GO YOU KNOW WHAT, BUT
00:05:14MAYBE THEY WERE RIGHT, THERE ARE
PROBLEMS WE NEED TO TAKE A LOOK
00:05:16AT.
>> THE HEARTBEAT BILL, WHICH
00:05:21PASSED THE HOUSE IN JUNE, HAS
CAUSED QUITE A DISTURBANCE
00:05:23WITHIN THE ANTI-ABORTION
COMMUNITY, WITH THE BILL'S
00:05:26BACKERS FORMING A POLITICAL
ACTION COMMITTEE AND SEVERAL
00:05:29LOCAL RIGHT-TO-LIFE GROUPS
SPLITTING FROM OHIO RIGHT TO
00:05:32LIFE TO JOIN IT.
SEVERAL ACTIVISTS ON BOTH SIDES
00:05:35HAVE RAISED CONCERNS ABOUT HOW
HARD BE BUILT WORKS WITH EIGHT
00:05:38NEW CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT
THAT WOULD PREVENT OHIOANS FROM
00:05:40BEING FORCED INTO A GOVERNMENT
RUN HEALTH CARE SYSTEM.
00:05:42CAFARO DESCRIBES HERSELF AS A
CIVIL LIBERTARIAN, AND SAID
00:05:47THAT'S JUST PART OF HER CONCERN
ABOUT THE HEART BE DELL.
00:05:48>> FRANKLY, WHEN WE ARE LOOKING
TO TRY TO IMPROVE OHIO AND THE
00:05:54ECONOMY AND HELP PEOPLE PUT FOOD
ON THE TABLE, THERE ARE A LOT OF
00:05:58OTHER MUCH, MUCH, IN MY OPINION,
MORE PRESSING ISSUES ON THE
00:06:01MINDS OF OHIOANS THAN THIS.
>> I'LL HAVE STILL MORE OF MY
00:06:09INTERVIEW COMING UP.
ONE OF THE AUTHORS OF OHIO'S
00:06:12DEATH PENALTY LAW TESTIFIED
AGAINST IT THIS WEEK, SAYING THE
00:06:15STATE IS NO LONGER SERVED WELL
BY IT.
00:06:17OHIO SUPREME COURT JUSTICE PAUL
PFEIFER TOLD A HOUSE COMMITTEE
00:06:21THE LAW'S APPLICATION HAS BECOME
HIT OR MISS, DEPENDING ON WHERE
00:06:23CRIME IS COMMITTED AND WHAT THE
COUNTY PROSECUTOR'S ATTITUDE IS.
00:06:27PFEIFER IS TESTIMONY SUPPORTS A
BILL BY TWO DEMOCRATIC STATE
00:06:31LAWMAKERS WHO WANT TO SCRAP THE
DEATH PENALTY BROUGHT THE OHIO
00:06:35SUPREME COURT, WHICH HEARS ALL
DEATH PENALTY CASES, HAS
00:06:39CONVENED A TASK FORCE TO LOOK
INTO THE DEATH PENALTY, BUT
00:06:41CHIEF JUSTICE MAUREEN O'CONNOR
SAYS THE GROUP IS NOT TO
00:06:43CONSIDER A BAN ON CAPITAL
PUNISHMENT.
00:06:44AS GOVERNOR JOHN LASIK
PREDICTED, -- GOV. JOHN KASICH
00:06:52PREDICTED, SEARS WILL BE STAYING
IN ILLINOIS.
00:06:55OHIO HAD OFFERED $400 MILLION TO
LURE SEARS HERE.
00:06:59THE GOVERNOR HAS LONG SOUNDED
NEGATIVE ABOUT OHIO'S CHANCES IN
00:07:03THE CONTEST WITH THE RETAILER,
AND WROTE AN ESTIMATE THAT READS
00:07:07IN PART, "WE ARE DISAPPOINTED
THAT IT DIDN'T WORK OUT, BUT IS
00:07:12VERY EXCITING THAT OHIO WAS IN
SERIOUS CONTENTION UP TO THE
00:07:15VERY END, AND THEN IT TOOK A
SPECIAL SESSION OF THE ILLINOIS
00:07:19LEGISLATURE TO BE US.
TO HAVE ONE OF AMERICA'S MAJOR
00:07:22RETAILERS CONSIDER RELOCATING TO
OHIO IS A TESTAMENT TO HOW FAR
00:07:26WE'VE COME IN A SHORT AMOUNT OF
TIME.
00:07:28WE ARE BEGINNING TO GET BACK ON
TRACK."
00:07:30IT HAS BEEN A VERY BUSY YEAR IN
THE STATEHOUSE.
00:07:3456 BILLS HAVE BEEN PASSED BY THE
HOUSE AND SENATE THIS YEAR,
00:07:37THOUGH TWO NEVER BECAME LAW -- A
BILL ON WATER USE RULES AS PART
00:07:41OF THE GREAT LAKES CONTACT,
WHICH WAS VETOED BY GOV. KASICH,
00:07:45AND OF COURSE, SENATE BILL 5,
THE COLLECTIVE BARGAINING REFORM
00:07:49LAW THAT WAS OVERTURNED BY
VOTERS LAST MONTH.
00:07:50THE STACK OF SIGNED LAWS INCLUDE
THE ONES CREATING THE TWO YEAR
00:07:57BUDGET THAT DEALT WITH AN
ESTIMATED $8 BILLION DEFICIT,
00:07:59THE CREATION OF JOBSOHIO, AND
SENATE BILL 2.
00:08:06THE ESTATE TAX WAS KILLED, THERE
WERE REFORMS TO PRISON
00:08:09SENTENCING, VOUCHERS WERE
EXPANDED, AND CONCEALED WEAPONS
00:08:12ARE NOW OUT IN BARS BECAUSE OF
SENATE BILL 17.
00:08:16AND THERE ARE EVEN TOUGHER
ISSUES AHEAD -- THE SALE OR
00:08:19LEASE OF THE OHIO TURNPIKE, A
BAN ON EXOTIC ANIMALS, CHANGES
00:08:23IN THE STATE'S PENSION SYSTEM,
POSSIBLE ALTERATIONS TO THE
00:08:26ALTERNATIVE ENERGY STANDARDS LAW
ON UTILITIES, AND OF COURSE, THE
00:08:29POTENTIAL THAT SOME ELEMENTS OF
SENATE BILL 5 THAT PROVED
00:08:32POPULAR WITH VOTERS IN POLLS
WILL BE BROUGHT FORWARD.
00:08:34I TALKED EARLIER THIS WEEK WITH
THE LEADERS OF THE -- THE --
00:08:39PRESIDENT TOM NIEHAUS,
REPUBLICAN OF NEW RICHMOND IN
00:08:42SOUTHWEST OHIO, AND MINORITY
LEADER CAPRI CAFARO, A DEMOCRAT
00:08:46OF HUBBARD NEAR YOUNGSTOWN.
I STARTED BY ASKING PRESIDENT
00:08:50NIEHAUS ABOUT THE MAP FLAP AND
THE RECENT REPORT OF OUR GROUP
00:08:53CRITICAL OF THE MAP DRAWING
PROCESS.
00:08:55PUBLIC DOCUMENTS OBTAINED BY THE
OHIO CAMPAIGN FOR ACCOUNTABLE
00:08:58REDISTRICTING SHOW THE MAP WAS
PUT TOGETHER IN A PRIVATE HOTEL
00:09:01ROOM NEAR THE STATEHOUSE, PAID
FOR WITH PUBLIC FUNDS.
00:09:05SPOKESMAN JIM SLAGLE SAYS THE
RECORDS SHOW U.S. HOUSE SPEAKER
00:09:09JOHN BOEHNER'S HAND WAS IN THE
MAP DRAWING PROCESS ALL ALONG,
00:09:12THROUGH A REPRESENTATIVE OF TEAM
BOEHNER WHO PARTICIPATED WITH
00:09:20LEGISLATIVE LEADERS, MAPMAKING
CONSULTANTS, AND THE NATIONAL
00:09:24REPUBLICAN CONGRESSIONAL
COMMITTEE.
00:09:25ANNETTE NIEHAUS SHOWED UP IN
THOSE RECORDS AS WELL.
00:09:26RECORDS SHOW THAT U.S. HOUSE
SPEAKER JOHN BOEHNER, WHO IS IN
00:09:31YOUR NECK OF THE WOODS IN
SOUTHWEST OHIO, WAS INVOLVED IN
00:09:36THE PROCESS OF REDISTRICTING
THROUGH A REPRESENTATIVE THERE
00:09:39FOR HIM.
AND HE MADE A PLEDGE, "I AM
00:09:42STILL COMMITTED TO ENDING UP
WITH A MAP THAT SPEAKER BOEHNER
00:09:45STILL SUPPORTS WITH OR WITHOUT
COATS OF MEMBER LEADERSHIP."
00:09:49DOES THAT MEAN THAT SPEAKER
BOEHNER WAS DICTATING HOW THE
00:09:52MAP WAS GOING TO LOOK?
>> NOW, THIS GROUP TOOK THAT
00:09:56INFORMATION OUT OF CONTEXT.
IF YOU LOOK AT MY COMMENTS FROM
00:09:59THE POINT WE STARTED THE
REDISTRICTING DISCUSSION, I SAID
00:10:02THAT IT IS IMPORTANT THAT,
NUMBER ONE, WHATEVER WE DID WAS
00:10:05CONSTITUTIONAL, ALL OF THE
VOTING RIGHTS ACT, WAS
00:10:08COMPETITIVE TO IT FAST FORWARD,
AND I THINK THAT EMAILED WAS
00:10:12SOMETIME IN SEPTEMBER AS WE ARE
NEARING THE END AGREED TO IN
00:10:15PROCESS.
OBVIOUSLY, YOU HAVE MEMBERS OF
00:10:18CONGRESS AND THE LEGISLATURE, OR
AS THEY SAY, PEOPLE INTERESTED
00:10:24IN GOING TO CONGRESS, VERY
CONCERNED ABOUT HOW THE DISTRICT
00:10:28LINES ARE GOING TO BE DRAWN.
I HAD DIFFERENT OPINIONS FROM
00:10:33WITHIN MY LEADERSHIP TEAM ABOUT
HOW CERTAIN PARTS OF THE MAP
00:10:36SHOULD LOOK.
MIKE, AS REFLECTED IN THAT E-
00:10:39MAIL -- MY COMMENT AS REFLECTED
IN THAT E-MAIL WAS THAT IT IS
00:10:43MORE IMPORTANT TO ME THAT I HAVE
A MAP THAT SPEAKER BOEHNER
00:10:46SUPPORTS THEN AND THAT THAT
MIGHT LEAD SHIP MEMBERS SUPPORT,
00:10:49BECAUSE HE IS LOOKING AT A
BIGGER PICTURE.
00:10:52MY MEMBERS LOOK AT SPECIFIC
AREAS -- HOW DOES IT AFFECT
00:10:58THEIR COMMUNITY, THEIR
OPPORTUNITY TO RUN FOR CONGRESS?
00:11:01I WAS LOOKING AT IT FROM A
BROADER PERSPECTIVE AND THAT WAS
00:11:04REFLECTED IN THE E-MAIL.
>> I WANT TO MOVE ON TO
00:11:07SOMETHING WE HAVE HEARD IN
RALLIES AND COMMITTEE MEETINGS.
00:11:10THE LEGISLATURE IS SUPPOSED TO
BE DEALING WITH THE ECONOMY AND
00:11:13JOBS, AND YET THEY BY DEALING
WITH ABORTION, CLONING, AND
00:11:17OTHER ISSUES OF ARGUING OVER THE
CONGRESSIONAL MAP.
00:11:20WHAT DO YOU SAY TO PEOPLE WHO
SAY THEY ARE FRUSTRATED ABOUT
00:11:23WHAT LAWMAKERS WERE ELECTED TO
DO AND WHAT THEY ARE ACTUALLY
00:11:26DOING?
>> FIRST, THEY ASSUME WE CANNOT
00:11:29DO MORE THAN ONE THING AND A
TIME.
00:11:32AND QUITE A BIT IN THE AREA OF
THE JOB CREATION, -- WE HAVE
00:11:35DONE QUITE A BIT IN THE AREA TO
THE OPERATION, LOWERING TAXES.
00:11:39A NUMBER OF THINGS THE
LEGISLATURE HAS ALREADY DONE TO
00:11:42CREATE THE RIGHT ENVIRONMENT
ENOUGH OIL FOR JOBS TO BE
00:11:45CREATED.
MORE THAN HALF THE PEOPLE
00:11:48WORKING IN OHIO WORK FOR SMALL
BUSINESSES.
00:11:52IF YOU KEEP TAXES LOW FOR SMALL
BUSINESS OWNERS, REGULATIONS
00:11:56MINIMAL FOR SMALL BUSINESS
OWNERS, IT CREATES INCENTIVES
00:11:59FOR THEM TO HIRE MORE PEOPLE.
WHILE WE CERTAINLY INVITE BIG
00:12:02BUSINESSES TO COME TO OHIO AND
ENCOURAGE THEIR GROWTH, IT IS
00:12:05MUCH MORE PRODUCTIVE FOR
OHIOANS THAT SMALL BUSINESSES
00:12:09GROW, BECAUSE THEN WE ARE
DIVERSIFIED AND LESS SUBJECT TO
00:12:12THE CHANGES IN THE NATIONAL
ECONOMY.
00:12:13AS YOU LOOK THROUGH THE LIST OF
ACCOMPLISHMENTS IN THIS FIRST
00:12:17YEAR, AND THEY HAVE ALL BEEN
ABOUT JOB CREATION YOU WILL SEE
00:12:21THAT FOCUS CONTINUE IN THE
SENATE.
00:12:23YOU WILL HAVE OTHER ISSUES BEING
DEBATED.
00:12:26IT IS NOT LIKE WE ONLY FOCUS ON
ONE THING AT A TIME.
00:12:29EVERYONE, I THINK, IN THE
LEGISLATURE, AND THIS IS A
00:12:34BIPARTISAN ISSUE -- EVERYONE
RECOGNIZES THE NEED TO CREATE AN
00:12:37ENVIRONMENT WHERE WE CAN HAVE
MORE JOBS.
00:12:39BUT YOU CAN DO OTHER THINGS AT
THE SAME TIME.
00:12:42>> AND I WOULD SAY THAT THE
ISSUE OF ECONOMIC GROWTH AND
00:12:46DEVELOPMENT IS AN AREA WHERE WE
HAVE IN MANY INSTANCES AN
00:12:50OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE WORKED IN A
BIPARTISAN MANNER.
00:12:52MANY OF US DID SUPPORT THE
COMMON SENSE INITIATIVE.
00:12:56YOU MENTIONED THE SENATE BILL
TO.
00:12:57JOBSOHIO AS WELL.
>> THERE ARE SOME DEMOCRATS WHO
00:13:06HAD PROBLEMS WITH JOBSOHIO.
>> I AM NOT SAYING THERE WERE
00:13:11RICH, BUT WE NEED TO STOP AND
BECOME -- I AM NOT SAYING THERE
00:13:15WERE RED, BUT WE NEED TO STOP
AND BECOME IN MY OPINION,
00:13:20LOOKING AT HOW TO CREATE AN
ADVANTAGEOUS ECONOMIC
00:13:23ENVIRONMENT FOR INVESTMENT.
IT MAY BE SOMETHING THAT HAS NOT
00:13:28BEEN TESTED, BUT THAT IS NOT
NECESSARILY A BAD THING.
00:13:30IT HAS -- IT MAKES OHIO HAVE
SOMETHING THAT IS UNIQUE TO THEM
00:13:35WHEN IT COMES TO ECONOMIC
GROWTH.
00:13:37WHEN IT COMES TO ISSUES OF
REGULATORY REFORM AND SOME OF
00:13:40THE ISSUES THAT ARE RELATED TO
THE CREATION OF JOBS OHIO,
00:13:43CERTAINLY THERE HAS BEEN
BIPARTISAN SUPPORT.
00:13:46SOME CRITICISM FROM DEMOCRATIC
COLLEAGUES, BUT I THINK AREAS
00:13:50WHERE WE HAVE OPPORTUNITIES TO
BUILD UPON FOR BIPARTISAN
00:13:54CONSENSUS.
>> THE LEGISLATURE HAS BEEN
00:13:57SOMEWHAT SIDETRACKED BY THESE
OTHER ISSUES LIKE A HEARTBEAT
00:13:59BILL.
>> I HAVE ALWAYS FELT THAT WAY,
00:14:03THAT THERE ARE BILLS THAT GO TO
THE FLOOR AND YOU WONDER WHY,
00:14:07BECAUSE THERE ARE THINGS THAT
MAY HAVE PASSED COMMITTEE BUT
00:14:11NEVER SEE THE LIGHT OF DAY.
I ALWAYS THINK ABOUT SOME OF THE
00:14:13ISSUES THAT DEALT WITH
FORECLOSURES.
00:14:15SO MUCH DISCUSSION HAS GONE
AROUND FOR CLOSURES BUT WE NEVER
00:14:18REALLY SEEMED TO BE ABLE TO PASS
A COMPREHENSIVE BILL ON DEALING
00:14:21WITH THE FORECLOSURE ISSUE.
THAT IS JUST ONE OF SEVERAL
00:14:25DIFFERENT THINGS THAT I THINK
THAT THE PEOPLE OF OHIO ARE
00:14:28EXPECTING US TO DEAL WITH.
INSTEAD, WE ARE TALKING ABOUT
00:14:33TAKING FOLIC ACID FOR
CHILDBEARING-AGE WOMEN.
00:14:38>> ON THE ISSUE OF JOBS,
THOUGH, I WANT TO ECHO THE
00:14:44SENTIMENTS THAT SENATOR CAFARO
MENTIONED, THAT IT IS
00:14:48BIPARTISAN.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT IS
00:14:49DIFFERENT ABOUT THE PUBLIC
SECTOR FROM THE PRIVATE SECTOR,
00:14:53IN THE INSTANCE OF JOBSOHIO, WE
ARE TAKING A RISK IN DOING
00:14:58SOMETHING NEW AND ARE
PRIVATIZING A FUNCTION THAT IN
00:15:02MOST STATES IS RUN BY STATE
BUREAUCRACY.
00:15:05IT MAY WORK, IT MAY NOT WORK.
I PERSONALLY BELIEVE IS A GREAT
00:15:09EFFORT AND I BELIEVE IS ALREADY
WORKING BY THE SUCCESS WE HAVE
00:15:13AT KEEPING AMERICAN GREETINGS
AND A GOOD YEAR AND OTHER
00:15:15COMPANIES COMING TO OHIO.
BUT THERE IS ALWAYS A CHANCE
00:15:19WHEN YOU TRY SOMETHING NEW THAT
YOU WILL FAIL.
00:15:21FOR SOME REASON, I SPEAK OF, OR
PUBLIC SERVICE, A FAILURE DOES
00:15:25NO -- FOR SOME REASON, IN STATE
GOVERNMENT OR PUBLIC SERVICE,
00:15:31FAILURE DOES NOT SEEM TO BE AN
OPTION.
00:15:33MOST BUSINESSES WOULD BE
DELIGHTED TO TRY TO NEW THINGS
00:15:37AND HALF OF THEM SUCCEEDED.
THAT IS WHAT YOU ARE SEEING IN
00:15:43THIS LEGISLATURE, WITH THIS
ADMINISTRATION, A WILLINGNESS TO
00:15:47TRY SOMETHING NEW AND CHALLENGE
CONVENTIONAL THINKING AS WE WORK
00:15:49TO TRY TO CREATE AN ENVIRONMENT
WHERE PEOPLE WANT TO CREATE JOBS
00:15:52IN OHIO.
>> CAN I JUST SAY ONE MORE
00:15:56THING?
PRESIDENT NIEHAUS DESCRIBED IT
00:15:59AS PRIVATIZATION.
THE WAY THAT I INTERPRET IT IS
00:16:03ITPRIVATIZATION TRADE SUMMIT OF
THE GRANT PROGRAMS, -- SO MANY
00:16:10OF THE GRANT PROGRAMS WILL STILL
BE PASSING THROUGH THE
00:16:13GOVERNMENT FUNCTION.
THIS IS TAKING MONIES AND
00:16:16PUTTING THEM INTO WHAT IS
ESSENTIALLY GOING TO BE RUN LIKE
00:16:18A VENTURE-CAPITAL FUND TO BE
ABLE TO ATTRACT INVESTMENT AND
00:16:22TO THE STATE OF OHIO AND THEN
POTENTIALLY BE ABLE TO TAKE AN
00:16:24OWNERSHIP POSITION IN THOSE,
WHICH THE STATE OF OHIO CANNOT
00:16:27DO CONSTITUTIONALLY THEY AFTER
HAVE A SEPARATE ENTITY TO BE
00:16:30ABLE TO DO THAT.
>> ARE YOU IN FAVOR OF THIS?
00:16:34>> I VOTED FOR IT, SO I GUESS
THE ANSWER IS YES.
00:16:38>> THERE IS A LOT THAT IS
POTENTIALLY COMING DOWN THE PIKE
00:16:42FOR 2012.
THE TURNPIKE, MAYBE, THE BAN ON
00:16:46EXOTIC ANIMALS, REFORM OF THE
PENSION SYSTEM, YOU COULD HAVE A
00:16:50PHOTO I.D. AND THE ELECTION LAW
COMING UP, MAY BE CHANGES TO THE
00:16:54DEATH PENALTY, WHICH SOME
DEMOCRATS HAVE CALLED FOR.
00:16:59THE ONE I THINK PEOPLE WANT TO
KNOW IS WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN
00:17:02WITH THE SENATE BILL 5?
THERE WERE CERTAIN THINGS THAT
00:17:05THE POLLS SHOW VOTERS WERE OK
WITH, EVEN THOUGH THEY WERE
00:17:09OVERWHELMINGLY DEFEATED.
PRESIDENT NIEHAUS, WHAT DO YOU
00:17:12EXPECT TO SEE WITH REGARD TO THE
REFORMS OF SENATE BILL 5?
00:17:15>> THERE ARE NO PLANS TO
REINTRODUCE PORTIONS OF SENATE
00:17:19BILL 5, EVEN THOUGH, AS YOU
POINTED OUT, SURVEYS THROUGHOUT
00:17:23THE STATE, THROUGHOUT THE COURSE
OF THE CAMPAIGN, INDICATED THERE
00:17:28WAS A LOT OF SUPPORT FOR MERIT
PAY.
00:17:30HALF OF THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS IN
THE STATE OF OHIO -- ALL SCHOOL
00:17:35DISTRICTS THAT SIGN UP FOUR
RACE TO THE TOP -- HAVE A
00:17:40COMPONENT OF PERFORMANCE-BASED
EVALUATIONS.
00:17:45OTHER DISTRICTS ARE MOVING IN
THAT DIRECTION.
00:17:48THERE IS NO PLAN TO SAY THAT THE
CHIP AWAY AND DO THIS LITTLE
00:17:52PIECE AND THAT LITTLE PIECE PAID
JUST TODAY WE PASSED LEGISLATION
00:17:54ALLOWING THREE LOCAL COUNTIES TO
MERGE THEIR JOBS WITH FAMILY
00:18:02SERVICES DEPARTMENT D.D
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THE
00:18:07GOVERNOR AND SPEAKER AND I WERE
CLEAR ON AFTER THE DEFEAT OF
00:18:10ISSUE TWO WAS THAT WE WERE GOING
TO BE LOOKING TO LOCAL
00:18:13GOVERNMENT TO COME TO US WITH
IDEAS OF WHAT THEY NEEDED TO
00:18:16HELP THEM BALANCE THE BUDGET IN
THESE DIFFICULT TIMES.
00:18:19THESE THREE COUNTIES CAME
TOGETHER AND WORK FOR THE PAST
00:18:22YEAR AFTER IT THEY WILL BE
WORKING ON THIS PRIOR TO SENATE
00:18:26BILL 5.
THEY CAME TOGETHER WITH AN IDEA
00:18:29OF HOW THEY COULD MERGE THEIR
DEPARTMENTS, PROVIDE BETTER
00:18:33SERVICES, PROTECTED JOBS, AND
SAVE TAXPAYER MONEY.
00:18:35THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE
ENCOURAGE LOCAL GOVERNMENTS TO
00:18:39LOOK AT AND TRY SOME NEW THINGS,
BECAUSE DOING THE SAME OLD THING
00:18:43IS NOT GOING TO GET US WHERE WE
NEED TO GO.
00:18:44>> THIS BILL THAT PRESIDENT
NIEHAUS IS REFERRING TO MY
00:18:51CAUCUS DID NOT SUPPORT.
CONCEPTUALLY, THE IDEA OF LOCAL
00:19:01GOVERNMENT COOPERATION AND
CONSOLIDATION AND COLLABORATION
00:19:03ARE GOOD THINGS.
WE WANT THOSE KINDS OF TOOLS.
00:19:05BUT I THINK THAT THERE WERE SOME
CONCERNS, PARTICULARLY BECAUSE
00:19:08-- I AM INTERESTED TO HEAR THIS
HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR A YEAR
00:19:12AFTER IT IS AN AMENDMENT THAT
SORT OF CAME FOR THE LAST MINUTE
00:19:15-- FOR THE YEAR AND A HALF.
THIS IS AN AMENDMENT THAT SORT
00:19:20OF CAME FOR THE LAST MANY.
-- MINUTE.
00:19:23I PERSONALLY HAVE CONCERNS NOT
ONLY BECAUSE OF THE POTENTIAL
00:19:28FOR PROTECTING THE JOBS, WHICH
IS UNCERTAIN, BUT I REPRESENT A
00:19:32PRETTY RURAL AREA.
I HAVE URBAN AND SUBURBAN AREAS,
00:19:38BUT I ALSO HAVE A ROLE, WANTED
TO MY DISTRICT.
00:19:42IF YOU HAVE THREE RURAL
COUNTIES AND ARE PUTTING JOBS
00:19:47AND FAMILY SERVICES IN ONE OF
THEM, YOU ARE INHERENTLY
00:19:49CREATING AN ACCESS PROBLEM FOR
FOLKS WHO ARE TRYING TO ACCESS
00:19:55TO PUBLIC BENEFITS SYSTEM, HAVE
POTENTIALLY LIMITED ACCESS TO
00:19:59TRANSPORTATION, LIMITED ACCESS
TO GAS.
00:20:01WE WILL HAVE A DIFFICULT TIME
GETTING TO WHERE THIS IS.
00:20:06YOU WILL BE HURTING THE FOLKS IN
RURAL COMMUNITIES TO BE ABLE TO
00:20:08GET WHERE WE NEED TO GO TO
ACCESS THE BENEFITS.
00:20:12TO ME, THINKING ABOUT BEING
SENSITIVE TO THE ROLE ISSUE, I
00:20:15WAS CONCERNED ABOUT THAT.
-- RURAL ISSUE, I WAS CONCERNED
00:20:20ABOUT THAT.
>> ONE SENATOR TALKED ABOUT HE
00:20:23FELT THIS WAS AN ENCROACHMENT OF
WHAT WAS DISCUSSED IN SENATE
00:20:26BILL 5.
I'M WONDERING IIF THAT IS
00:20:30WHAT YOU MIGHT EXPECT.
DO YOU EXPECT SOME BILLS AND
00:20:34AMENDMENTS THAT MIGHT CHIP AWAY
AT WHAT YOU ARE TRYING TO
00:20:39PROTECT WITH THE DEFEAT OF
SENATE BILL 5?
00:20:41>> I WILL TAKE AT PRESIDENT
NIEHAUS AT HIS WORD AND WE WILL
00:20:45HOLD HIM TO THAT.
YOU CANNOT BLAME THOSE OF US WHO
00:20:48WERE OPPONENTS OF THE SENATE
BILL 5 TO BE A LITTLE BIT WARY
00:20:53TRADE JUST 48 HOURS AFTER THE
DEFEAT OF THE SENATE BILL 5, IN
00:20:57ISSUED TWO, FOLKS CAME IN FROM
OUT OF STATE AND PROPOSED A
00:21:01CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT OR
PRESENTED A CONSTITUTIONAL
00:21:05AMENDMENT TO TURN OHIO INTO A
RIGHT-TO-WORK STATE.
00:21:08THERE SEEMS TO BE A PROLONGED
DEBATE SURROUNDING WORKERS'
00:21:13RIGHTS, COMPETITIVE WAGES,
COMPETITIVE BENEFITS.
00:21:16IT IS ONE THAT I THINK WE ARE
VERY APPREHENSIVE AND WORRY
00:21:20ABOUT.
AS I SAID, I TAKE PRESIDENT
00:21:22NIEHAUS AT HIS WORD.
THAT IS WHAT HE SAYS, I BELIEVE
00:21:25HIM.
I DID GRISETTE -- I DID PRESENT,
00:21:30AND THE MEMBERS OF THE SENATE
DEMOCRATIC CAUCUS JOINED ME IN
00:21:32PRESENTING JOINT RESOLUTION NO.
3, WHICH WOULD CREATE A
00:21:35CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT TO
PROTECT THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE
00:21:42BY REFERENDUM FOR A TWO-YEAR
PERIOD.
00:21:44>> VOTED DOWN, CANNOT COME BACK
IN THE LEGISLATURE FOR TWO
00:21:49YEARS.
>> WHILE I GET THAT THIS HAS
00:21:52GOTTEN A LOT OF ATTENTION
BECAUSE IT ISSUED TWO, AND IT
00:21:56LOOKS LIKE WE'RE TRYING TO
PROTECT OUTCOMES, THAT IS NOT,
00:21:58IN MY VIEW, THE CASE HERE.
IT IS ABOUT PROTECTING THE WILL
00:22:03OF THE PEOPLE.
IT IS NOT ABOUT ADVOCATING THE
00:22:05RIGHTS OF THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY.
IF WE BELIEVE THERE IS A
00:22:08NECESSITY TO MEET STATUTORY
CHANGES ON THINGS THAT IN VOTED
00:22:11ON BY THE PUBLIC, WE HAVE THE
ABILITY TO DO THAT WITHIN THE
00:22:14TWO-YEAR MORATORIUM IF WE HAVE
BIPARTISAN SUPER MAJORITIES IN
00:22:18BOTH CHAMBERS TO DO THAT.
>> REAL QUICKLY, THE DEMOCRATS
00:22:22HAVE BEEN IN THE MINORITY IN THE
SENATE SINCE 1985.
00:22:26NOW 10 DEMOCRATS TO 23
REPUBLICANS.
00:22:30DOES OUR CAUCUS HAVE ANY REAL
POWER TO STOP ANYTHING IF THE
00:22:34REPUBLICANS WON -- DOES YOUR
CAUCUS HAVE ANY REAL POWER TO
00:22:38STOP ANYTHING IF THE REPUBLICANS
WANT TO DO IT?
00:22:39>> I WOULD SAY THAT WE HAVE THE
PUBLIC ON OUR SIDE.
00:22:45THE PEOPLE THAT WE REPRESENT IN
THESE DISTRICTS ARE JUST AS
00:22:51IMPORTANT AS THE PEOPLE IN
SENATOR NIEHAUS' DISTRICT.
00:22:55THE PEOPLE THAT WE REPRESENT,
EVEN THOUGH IN THE MINORITY, ARE
00:22:59JUST AS IMPORTANT AND HAVE JUST
AS MUCH SAY AT THE BALLOT BOX.
00:23:05I AM HESITANT TO SAY THAT WE
CANNOT GET ANYTHING DONE BECAUSE
00:23:10WE ARE IN THE MINORITY.
IT DOES NOT ABDICATE OUR
00:23:14RESPONSIBILITY TO BE PART OF THE
GOVERNING PROCESS TO BE SURE
00:23:17THAT OUR CONSTITUENTS' VOICES
ARE BEING HEARD, THEIR NEEDS ARE
00:23:23BEING MET, WE ARE PROVIDING
APPROPRIATE SERVICES, AND THAT
00:23:26WE ARE PART OF THE POLICY-MAKING
PROCESS.
00:23:32I HOPE TO CONTINUE TO HAVE A
STRONG RELATIONSHIP WITH THE
00:23:37MAJORITY.
>> I THINK THE FLAT SIDE OF THAT
00:23:40IS THAT WE ALSO HAVE THE SUPPORT
OF OUR CONSTITUENTS.
00:23:42JUST BECAUSE WE HAVE A 23-TO-10
ADVANTAGE, REPUBLICANS OVER
00:23:47DEMOCRATS IN THE SENATE, DOES
NOT MEAN WE IGNORE THE MINORITY.
00:23:51FOR INSTANCE, I WENT TO SENATOR
CAFARO WITHIN THE LAST TWO
00:23:56WEEKS.
THERE WAS AN UNFORTUNATE
00:23:58INCIDENT WITHIN HAMILTON COUNTY
WHERE A CHILD INVOLVED IN FOSTER
00:24:02CARE DIED.
THE SENATOR REPRESENTS PART OF
00:24:08HAMILTON COUNTY, AND I WENT TO
SENATOR CAFARO, AND I ASKED THE
00:24:13SENATOR TO LEAD THE EFFORT TO
REVIEW THE LEGISLATION, WORK
00:24:16WITH THE REPUBLICAN PROSECUTOR
IN HAMILTON COUNTY TO SEE IF
00:24:19THERE IS SOMETHING WE NEED TO DO
TO CHANGE THE LEGISLATION.
00:24:22IT WAS NOT A MATTER OF WE CAN
IGNORE THE DEMOCRATS.
00:24:25FIND THE PEOPLE WHO ARE BEST
ABLE TO REPRESENT HIS INTERESTS
00:24:28AND THAT PASSION, AND LET US TO
ENGAGE THEM IN THE ISSUE.
00:24:34IT IS NOT A PARTISAN ISSUE.
>> WE ARE FORTUNATE, I BELIEVE,
00:24:39THAT WE HAVE LEADERS WITHIN THE
GENERAL ASSEMBLY SUCH AS
00:24:43PRESIDENT NIEHAUS AND MYSELF,
WHO ARE WILLING TO WORK ACROSS
00:24:46PARTY LINES AND WORK TOWARDS A
STRONGER OHIO COLLECTIVELY.
00:24:48I THINK THE CHALLENGE IS RIGHT
NOW WE HAVE GOOD PEOPLE IN D.C.
00:24:53THAT ARE WILLING TO DO THE RIGHT
THING.
00:24:55THE QUESTION IS, WHAT HAPPENS
WHEN THOSE PEOPLE GO AWAY AND
00:24:59YOU STILL HAVE A 23-10?
THAT IS THE ISSUE.
00:25:02>> ONE QUESTION FOR YOU,
PRESIDENT NIEHAUS.
00:25:07WHAT IS YOUR POSITION ON A GOP
CHAIR KEVIN DEWINE?
00:25:11>> THIS IS A PERSONAL FIGHT,
TRULY AN INTRAPARTY FIGHT, SO I
00:25:16DO NOT HAVE A PUBLIC POSITION ON
THEIT.
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00:26:58HE'S SEEN SOME OF HIS KEYSTONE
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00:27:02THE STATE HOUSE, BUT ONE MAJOR
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