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00:00:42THE BUDGET IS LAW AND THE
STATE'S SAVINGS ACCOUNT IS FULL,
00:00:45BUT THE GOVERNOR SAYS THERE'S
STILL A MAJOR PIECE OF BUSINESS
00:00:47THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE.
AND DEMOCRATS SAY HE'S NOT DOING
00:00:49ENOUGH TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN.
AND THE STATE BUDGET HAS THE
00:00:54DUBIOUS DISTINCTION OF UNITING
PEOPLE ON THE LEFT AND THE RIGHT
00:00:55IN OPPOSITION TO PARTS OF IT.
THE LEADERS OF TWO GROUPS ARE
00:00:58HERE TO TALK ABOUT THEIR
CONCERNS ABOUT SOME OF THE
00:01:00PROPOSALS IN THE PLAN AND THOSE
THAT WERE LEFT OUT BUT COULD
00:01:02COME BACK.
ALL THIS WEEK IN "THE STATE OF
00:01:04OHIO".
THE NEW FISCAL YEAR CELEBRATION
00:01:12CONTINUED FOR THE KASICH
ADMINISTRATION, WHICH THIS WEEK
00:01:14FILLED UP THE STATE'S RAINY DAY
FUND.
00:01:17GOV. JOHN KASICH AND STATE
BUDGET DIRECTOR TIM KEEN
00:01:22TRANSFERRED 995 MILLION DOLLARS
BEFORE A GROUP OF REPORTERS AND
00:01:25OFFICE OF BUDGET AND MANAGEMENT
EMPLOYEES TO BRING THE BALANCE
00:01:34OF THE BUDGET STABILIZATION FUND
TO 1.48 BILLION. THAT'S THE
00:01:36TARGET LEVEL FOR THE RAINY-DAY
FUND, AND KASICH SAYS IT'S THE
00:01:37LARGEST ACCOUNT BALANCE IN THE
STATE'S HISTORY. IT'S THE THIRD
00:01:39TIME KASICH HAS DEPOSITED
SURPLUS MONEY INTO THE RAINY DAY
00:01:43FUND, BUT WHEN ASKED IF THE
FIRST DEPOSIT COULD BE CREDITED
00:01:48TO DEMOCRATIC FORMER GOV. TED
STRICKLAND'S BUDGET, KEEN SAID
00:01:50KASICH'S TEAM HAD MANAGED THE
FINAL SIX MONTHS OF THAT BUDGET,
00:01:53SO THE KASICH ADMINISTRATION CAN
TAKE CREDIT FOR IT.
00:01:56MEANWHILE, THE TALK ABOUT
EXPANDING MEDICAID ISN'T OVER.
00:02:01GOV. KASICH APPEARED AT A RALLY
WITH SUPPORTERS OF MEDICAID
00:02:04EXPANSION THIS WEEK AN EVENT
THAT INCLUDED HANCOCK COUNTY
00:02:07SHERIFF MIKE HELDMAN, CUYAHOGA
COUNTY COMMON PLEAS JUDGE DAVID
00:02:10MATIA, MILITARY VETERANS AND
BUSINESS LEADERS, ALONG WITH
00:02:12HUNDREDS OF OTHERS WHO BACK THE
IDEA. KASICH TOLD THE CROWD IN
00:02:15THE STATEHOUSE ATRIUM THAT HE'S
DETERMINED TO SEE IT HAPPEN, BUT
00:02:17HE STOPPED SHORT OF DEMANDING
IT.>> WE ARE GOING TO GET THIS
00:02:29DONE.
[APPLAUSE]
00:02:30A REPORTER SAID, IF YOU THINK
THIS DOES NOT GO, KIND OF GIVE
00:02:41UP -- LET ME EXPLAIN.
WE ARE GOING TO GET THIS DONE.
00:02:42I DON'T CARE WHAT IT TAKES.
WE ARE GOING TO GET THIS DONE.
00:02:47PERIOD.
EXCLAMATION POINT.
00:02:48WE WILL GET IT DONE.
[APPLAUSE]
00:02:53I WANT YOU ALL TO UNDERSTAND
THAT WE HAVE TO RESPECT THE
00:03:04PROCESS OF THE LEGISLATURE.
WE CAN YELL AND SCREAM AND
00:03:10CRITICIZE.
IT'S NOT GOING TO GET US
00:03:13ANYWHERE.
YOU DON'T WANT PEOPLE TO DIG IN
00:03:17THEIR HEELS ON SOMETHING AS
IMPORTANT AS THIS.
00:03:19WE NEED TO BE DETERMINED,
HUMBLE, RESPECTFUL -- BUT
00:03:29DETERMINED.
DETERMINED.
00:03:30WE ALL WORK FOR YOU.
YOU DO NOT WORK FOR US.
00:03:35>> DEMOCRATS HELD A NEWS
CONFERENCE BEFORE THAT RALLY,
00:03:46CALLING ON KASICH TO DO MORE TO
PUSH HIS REPUBLICAN COLLEAGUES
00:03:51INTO MOVING ON MEDICAID
EXPANSION.
00:03:52MINORITY LEADER TRACY MAXWELL
HEARD OF COLUMBUS SAID THE
00:03:55GOVERNOR PERFORMING IN A
STARRING ROLE AT A RALLY ISN'T
00:03:57ENOUGH.
"THERE'S NO VICTORY HERE AND
00:04:05THERE'S NOTHING TO RALLY FOR
AROUND THE GOVERNOR FOR AT THIS
00:04:07POINT. I THINK THERE'S MUCH TO
SAY TO THE GOVERNOR FROM THE
00:04:09POINT OF THE ADVOCATES BUT HIP,
HIP, HOORAY IS NOT IT."
00:04:12OTHER DEMOCRATS WERE MORE
POINTED IN THEIR REMARKS. REP.
00:04:14RON GERBERRY OF YOUNGSTOWN WROTE
IN A STATEMENT THAT READS IN
00:04:16PART:
"GOVERNOR KASICH NEEDS THE
00:04:20POLITICAL COURAGE TO DO THE
RIGHT THING: CALL THE
00:04:22LEGISLATURE BACK FOR SESSION,
LOBBY HIS REPUBLICAN FRIENDS IN
00:04:24THE LEGISLATURE FOR ELEVEN VOTES
TO DISCHARGE A REPUBLICAN
00:04:26MEDICAID EXPANSION BILL, AND GET
THIS DONE FOR THE PEOPLE OF
00:04:36OHIO.
CUT THE CRAP AND GET IT DONE,
00:04:38GOVERNORJUST LIKE YOUR ARIZONA
COUNTERPART, GOVERNOR JAN
00:04:40BREWER, DID."
WE'LL HAVE MORE ON MEDICAID
00:04:43EXPANSION COMING UP.
OPPONENTS OF SOME ITEMS IN THE
00:04:4562 BILLION DOLLAR TWO YEAR
BUDGET HAVE BEEN CONSIDERING
00:04:47WHAT THEY CAN DO TO STOP THOSE
INDIVIDUAL ITEMS ESPECIALLY THE
00:04:49ABORTION RESTRICTIONS. THE
DEMOCRAT WHO'S LIKELY TO FACE
00:04:51GOV. KASICH NEXT YEAR SAYS HE
THINKS THOSE CAN BE PUT ON THE
00:04:56BALLOT. CUYAHOGA COUNTY
EXECUTIVE ED FITZGERALD SAYS HE
00:05:00WANTS TO FORM A COALITION TO
START CITIZEN-INITIATED
00:05:02LEGISLATION, SIMILAR TO THE
STATE'S SMOKING BAN. HE'S HOPING
00:05:06TO GET HELP FROM PLANNED
PARENTHOOD, NARAL PRO CHOICE
00:05:09OHIO AND OTHER ABORTION RIGHTS
AND WOMEN'S RIGHTS ADVOCACY
00:05:20GROUPS. IF 118,000 SIGNATURES
ARE GATHERED, THE LEGISLATION
00:05:21COULD GO TO THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY
FIRST, AND IF LAWMAKERS DIDN'T
00:05:23ACT, IT WOULD GO TO VOTERS. AND
IF IT DOES, IT WOULD SHARE SPACE
00:05:25ON THE SAME BALLOT THAT WOULD
HAVE KASICH AND FITZGERALD AT
00:05:27THE TOP NEXT YEAR. AS FITZGERALD
WAS PROPOSING THIS INSIDE THE
00:05:30HEADQUARTERS OF THE OHIO
DEMOCRATIC PARTY, REPUBLICAN
00:05:33ACTIVISTS WERE OUTSIDE
DEMONSTRATING. THE ALL-WOMEN
00:05:37GROUP OF GOP ACTIVISTS SAID THEY
WERE THERE TO SUPPORT GOV.
00:05:39KASICH AND THE BUDGET AS A
WHOLE.
00:05:43WHILE THE BUDGET HAS GOTTEN A
LOT OF PRAISE FROM THE
00:05:46REPUBLICAN LAWMAKERS WHO WERE
INVOLVED IN CREATING IT, IT'S
00:05:51BEEN THE TARGET OF CRITICISM
FROM MANY OTHERS AND ON BOTH
00:05:53SIDES OF THE POLITICAL FENCE.
LIBERAL AND PROGRESSIVE
00:05:58ACTIVISTS HAVE ATTACKED THE
INCOME TAX CUTS ALONG WITH THE
00:06:00SALES TAX INCREASE, WHICH THEY
SAY BENEFIT THE RICH AND HURT
00:06:03THE POOR, THE SCHOOL FUNDING
PLAN, AND THE ABORTION POLICY IN
00:06:07THIS SPENDING PLAN. AND MANY
CONSERVATIVES HAVE ALSO BLASTED
00:06:11THE BUDGET, SAYING IT SETS OHIO
UP FOR TROUBLE DOWN THE ROAD AND
00:06:14INCLUDES TOO MUCH SPENDING. AND
THEY'RE ESPECIALLY UPSET ABOUT
00:06:17THE CONTINUING DISCUSSIONS ABOUT
WHETHER TO EXPAND MEDICAID TO
00:06:20PEOPLE MAKING UP TO 138 PERCENT
OF THE FEDERAL POVERTY LEVEL,
00:06:23WHICH GOV. JOHN KASICH AND SOME
LAWMAKERS INCLUDING A FEW
00:06:25REPUBLICANS WANT TO DO.
HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE BRAND-NEW
00:06:30STATE BUDGET ARE LEADERS OF TWO
STATEWIDE GROUPS FOLLOWING IT.
00:06:34ELI MILLER IS THE OHIO STATE
DIRECTOR FOR AMERICANS FOR
00:06:37PROSPERITY, A CONSERVATIVE
GROUP. AND DALE BUTLAND IS THE
00:06:40COMMUNICATIONS DIRECTOR OF
PROGRESSIVE THINK TANK
00:06:42INNOVATION OHIO.>> WE ARE IN AN
INTERESTING PLACE.
00:06:50THERE ARE LIBERALS AND
CONSERVATIVES WHO ARE BOTH
00:06:52BLASTING THE BUDGET.
I WANT TO ASK YOU ABOUT THE
00:06:57INCOME TAX CUT.
ELI, WILL THIS INCOME TAX CUT
00:07:01HELP CREATE JOBS?
>> THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME ON
00:07:05THE SHOW.
THE INCOME STATE TAX, WE ARE
00:07:08GOING TO SEE A 10% REDUCTION
OVER THE FIRST THREE YEARS.
00:07:13THAT WILL PUT MORE MONEY IN THE
POCKET OF OHIOANS.
00:07:21WE BELIEVE IT IS EXTREMELY
IMPORTANT.
00:07:21WE WANT MORE OHIOANS TO HAVE
MORE MONEY IN THEIR POCKETS.
00:07:26>> HOW DOES THAT CREATE JOBS?
>> FOLKS WILL HAVE MORE MONEY TO
00:07:31SPEND.
BY HAVING MORE MONEY, SPURRING
00:07:36THE ECONOMY, THEY CAN BRING ON
MORE FOLKS TO WORK.
00:07:38>> DALE, YOU HAVE A DIFFERENT
PERSPECTIVE ON WHETHER INCOME
00:07:43TAX CUTS CREATE JOBS.
>> THIS IS JUST ANOTHER INCOME
00:07:47TAX CUT THAT FAVORS THE WEALTHY
THAT WILL DO ABSOLUTELY NOTHING
00:07:50TO CREATE JOBS.
FORGOT TO MENTION A FEW THINGS,
00:07:54ELI.
THIS 10% WILL GIVE THE TOPIC 1%
00:08:01-- THE TOP 1% A TAX CUT.
IF YOU ARE A LOW INCOME PERSON,
00:08:13YOUR TAXES ACTUALLY GO UP.
IF YOU ARE IN THE MIDDLE AND YOU
00:08:20ARE AND $51,000 A YEAR -- EARN
$51,000 A YEAR, YOU GET $9 A
00:08:29YEAR.
HOW MUCH SPENDING AND HOW MANY
00:08:36JOBS WILL THAT CREATE WHEN THOSE
PEOPLE GO AND SPEND THEIR NINE
00:08:38DOLLARS?
>> I FORGOT TO SAY THAT SMALL
00:08:42BUSINESSES WILL GET A 50%
DECREASE IN THE FIRST $250,000.
00:08:47THAT WILL LET SMALL BUSINESSES
PUT MORE MONEY INTO THEIR
00:08:52BUSINESS AND HIRE MORE PEOPLE.
>> I'M GLAD YOU BROUGHT THAT UP.
00:08:55LET'S TALK ABOUT THAT.
ACCORDING TO AN INDEPENDENT
00:09:01ASSET, THE OHIO PLAIN DEALER
SAYS 80% OF ALL SMALL BUSINESSES
00:09:03IN OHIO WILL GET A TAX CUT OF
$370 A YEAR OR LESS.
00:09:08NO BUSINESS IN OHIO WILL GET
EVEN ENOUGH MONEY TO HIRE ONE
00:09:16MINIMUM-WAGE WORKER.
>> BUT ELI'S POINT HAS BEEN,
00:09:23ISN'T THAT MONEY THAT CAN BE PUT
BACK INTO THE ECONOMY EVEN IF
00:09:25YOU DON'T HIRE A PERSON AT YOUR
COMPANY?
00:09:26>> $370 A YEAR IS NOTHING.
IF YOU WANT TO CREATE JOBS, WHAT
00:09:38YOU DO IS YOU CUT TAXES FOR
MIDDLE AND LOW INCOME FOLKS.
00:09:39THEY WILL SPEND EVERY DIME OF
IT. THEY WILL GO OUT AND BUY THE
00:09:45WASHING MACHINES AND CARS AND
REFRIGERATORS.
00:09:46THE OTHER THINGS WE NEED TO DO
-- TAX CUTS FOR THE WEALTHY DO
00:09:54NOT WORK.
HISTORY HAS DEMONSTRATED THIS
00:09:55OVER AND OVER AGAIN.
THEY'LL, YOU ARE FORGETTING TO
00:10:00MENTION THAT EVERYBODY WILL HAVE
A TAX CUT.
00:10:02NINE DOLLARS.
EVERY OHIOAN.
00:10:06THE NURSES,, TEACHERS, WORKING
MOMS AND DADS.
00:10:08>> DON'T SPEND YOUR NINE DOLLARS
IN ONE PLACE, ELI.
00:10:12[LAUGHTER]
>> THIS INCOME TAX REDUCTION, WE
00:10:18WILL SEE FOLKS OUTSIDE THE
BUCKEYE STATE LOOKING AT WANTING
00:10:23TO MOVE THEIR BUSINESSES TO
OHIO.
00:10:24THAT IS GREAT FOR OHIO.
>> THEY WILL GET $300 A YEAR OR
00:10:27MORE.
>> THAT IS WHY THEY WILL BE
00:10:30FLOODING INTO OHIO.
THIS IS RIDICULOUS.
00:10:34NEWSPAPERS WHO HAVE ANALYZED
THIS HAVE SAID IT WILL NOT
00:10:38CREATE ANY JOBS.
>> MORE TAXCUTTING IS COMING.
00:10:43BUT HE DOES NOT WANT THE CUTS
TWO AND HERE.
00:10:50DOES THAT SPEAK TO THAT ARGUMENT
THAT MORE PEOPLE MIGHT MOVE
00:10:53THEIR BUSINESSES HERE IF MORE
INCOME TAX CUTS ARE ON THE WAY?
00:10:54>> ONLY IF WE STOP GIVING TAX
CUTS THAT BENEFIT THE WEALTHY.
00:11:00WE HAVE A LONG HISTORY OF
EXPERIENCE WITH THAT IN OHIO.
00:11:02IN 2005, THE REPUBLICANS PUSHED
THROUGH THE 21% ACROSS-THE-BOARD
00:11:09INCOME TAX OVER FIVE YEARS --
CUT OVER FIVE YEARS.
00:11:14IT DISPROPORTIONATELY BENEFITED
THE WEALTHY.
00:11:17BY THE REPUBLICANS' OWN
ADMISSION, WE LOST 400,000 JOBS
00:11:25BETWEEN 2005 AND 2010.
THEY RAN ADS ALL THE TIME ABOUT
00:11:31HOW THE JOBS WERE LOST.
GEORGE W. BUSH AT THE FEDERAL
00:11:36LEVEL CUT TAXES TWICE FOR THE
WEALTHY.
00:11:36WE GOT THE WORST RECESSION SINCE
THE GREAT DEPRESSION.
00:11:41IT DOES NOT WORK.
IF WE'RE GOING TO CUT TAXES TO
00:11:43CREATE JOBS, CUT THEM FOR MIDDLE
INCOME FOLKS BECAUSE THEY WILL
00:11:46SPEND IT.
>> BUT DALE, WE WANT EVERYBODY
00:11:53TO HAVE THE SAME TAX REDUCTION.
>> EXACTLY.
00:11:57WHEN YOU CUT A PROGRESSIVE TAX,
THAT IS THE PROBLEM.
00:11:59THE RICHER FOLKS BENEFIT MORE.
THE INCOME TAX IS THE ONLY TAX
00:12:04WE HAVE IN THE STATE OF OHIO
BASED ON THE ABILITY TO PAY.
00:12:05THE MORE YOU MAKE, THE MORE YOU
PAY.
00:12:08WHEN YOU CUT THAT ONE
PROGRESSIVE TAX AND YOU INCREASE
00:12:12A REGRESSIVE TAX LIKE THE SALES
TAX AND YOU HAVE A 5% INCREASE
00:12:15IN IT, ALL YOU ARE DOING IS
SHIFTING THE TAX BURDEN AWAY
00:12:20FROM THE WEALTHY AND ONTO METAL
INCOME FOLKS -- MIDDLE INCOME
00:12:23FOLKS.
>> ELI, THIS IDEA OF TAX CUTS
00:12:29CREATING JOBS -- DALE POINTED
OUT THE BUSH TAX CUTS.
00:12:35THEY DID NOT CREATE JOBS.
HOW CAN YOU SAY THAT INCOME TAX
00:12:39CUTS CREATE JOBS?
>> INCOME TAX DOES CREATE JOBS.
00:12:44WE'RE GOING TO PUT MORE MONEY IN
MORE OHIO WORKERS' POCKETS.
00:12:47THAT WILL LET OTHER NEIGHBORING
STATES, OTHER NEIGHBORING STATES
00:12:54LOOK AT MAYBE MOVING TO OHIO.
THAT IS WHAT WE WANT.
00:12:57WE WANT TO SPUR JOB CREATION.
WE WANT TO SPUR THIS ECONOMY.
00:13:00>> LET ME ASK YOU ABOUT THE
SALES TAX CUT -- SALES TAX
00:13:07INCREASE, RATHER.
IS THAT THE BEST WAY TO HAVE
00:13:09PAID FOR THIS INCOME TAX CUT?
GOVERNOR KASICH'S ORIGINAL
00:13:15BUDGET HAD AN EXTENSION OF STATE
SALES TAX.
00:13:16THIS BUDGET HAS AN INCREASE IN
STATE SALES TAX.
00:13:21IS THAT THE BEST WAY TO FUND AN
INCOME TAX CUT?
00:13:22>> AMERICANS FOR PROSPERITY DOES
NOT BELIEVE IN RAISING TAXES.
00:13:28WE BELIEVE IN LOWERING TAXES.
>> REALLY?
00:13:31THEN YOU MUST BE OPPOSED TO THE
PROPERTY TAX INCREASE IN THIS
00:13:36BUDGET OF 12.5%.
>> TO ANSWER KAREN'S QUESTION,
00:13:43HOPEFULLY THIS WILL BE THE LEAST
DISTRACTIVE WAY TO BRING REVENUE
00:13:46TO OHIO.
WE DON'T BELIEVE IN RAISING
00:13:51TAXES.
IF HE WERE TO ASK HOW I FEEL
00:13:54ABOUT THE BUDGET, I FEEL THAT
MANY GREAT ASPECTS OF THIS
00:13:56BUDGET --
>> IT SEEMS THAT A LOT OF FOLKS
00:14:01DON'T AGREE WITH EVERYTHING.
A SEVERANCE TAX INCREASE WOULD
00:14:03NOT HAVE BEEN A GOOD WAY TO GO
ABOUT RAISING MONEY THAT WOULD
00:14:08ALLOW FOR A DIFFERENT INCOME
TAX?
00:14:09THE ORIGINAL BUDGET HAD A 20%
INCOME TAX.
00:14:12>> WE DON'T BELIEVE IN RAISING
TAXES OF ANY KIND.
00:14:17WE WANT LOWER TAXES.
>> DALE, YOUR GROUP HAS SAID
00:14:21THAT THE INCREASE IN STATE SALES
TAX -- YOU AND OTHER GROUPS HAVE
00:14:23SAID THE INCREASE
DISPROPORTIONATELY HURTS PEOPLE
00:14:27OF LOWER INCOME.
>> IT SHIFTS THE TAX BURDEN AWAY
00:14:31FROM WEALTHY FOLKS AND ONTO
MIDDLE AND LOW INCOME FOLKS.
00:14:33THERE IS NO DOUBT OF THIS.
THERE HAS BEEN ANALYSIS AFTER
00:14:38ANALYSIS.
IT SHOWS EXACTLY WHAT I TOLD YOU
00:14:41BEFORE.
IF YOU'RE IN THE TOP 1% YOU GET
00:14:43A HUGE TAX CUT, 6000 DOLLARS A
YEAR.
00:14:48IF YOU'RE MIDDLE INCOME, YOU GET
A NINE DOLLARS.
00:14:49IF YOU ARE LOW INCOME, YOUR
TAXES ACTUALLY GO UP.
00:14:55I WOULD LIKE TO PICK UP ON
SOMETHING THAT ELI SAID A MOMENT
00:14:58AGO.
I REALIZE YOU ARE NEW TO THIS
00:15:01JOB HERE.
BACK WHEN OHIO FIRST ENACTED AN
00:15:05INCOME TAX CUT IN 1971, 40 YEARS
AGO, THE STATE MADE A DEAL.
00:15:08>> INCOME TAX, IN GENERAL?
>> STATE INCOME TAX.
00:15:13THEY MADE A DEAL WITH LOCAL
TAXPAYERS AND SAID WE WILL PICK
00:15:19UP A PORTION OF YOUR LOCAL
PROPERTY TAX.
00:15:2112.5%.
WE STILL HAVE AN INCOME TAX.
00:15:27BUT NOW IN THIS LAST BUDGET,
KASICH HAS DECIDED, WE ARE NOT
00:15:33GOING TO PICK THAT UP ANYMORE.
FOR NEW TAX LEVIES STARTING ON
00:15:37THE BALLOT IN SEPTEMBER OF THIS
YEAR, PROPERTY TAXES WILL GO UP
00:15:4212.5%.
>> IF THE NEW LEVY PASSES.
00:15:45>> YES.
YOU CANNOT SAY IN PERPETUITY
00:15:50THERE WILL NEVER BE A NEW LEVY.
THERE WILL HAVE TO BE A NEW LEVY
00:15:54BECAUSE THEY HAVE NOT MADE UP TO
THE CUTS -- MADE UP FOR THE CUTS
00:15:57TO SCHOOLS.
THERE HAS BEEN A TSUNAMI OF
00:16:05LEVIES FROM ONE END OF THE STATE
TO THE OTHER.
00:16:06WHEN PEOPLE ARE FORCED TO PICK
UP THE COSTS FOR SCHOOLS, THEIR
00:16:13PROPERTY TAXES ARE GOING UP BY
12.5%.
00:16:14THEIR PROPERTY TAXES ARE GOING
UP.
00:16:20THAT IS A TAX INCREASE.
I THOUGHT YOU GUYS DID NOT LIKE
00:16:23THAT.
MAYBE IT IS JUST MY CREDIT TAX
00:16:26INCREASES YOU DID NOT LIKE. --
DEMOCRATIC TAX INCREASES YOU DID
00:16:32NOT LIKE.
>> THIS IS NOT A TAX ON THE
00:16:38PREVIOUS PROPERTY TAX I WANT
VOTERS, CONSTITUENTS OF OHIO --
00:16:43LET THEM DECIDE HOW THEY'RE
GOING TO PAY FOR THESE NEW
00:16:45LEVIES.
I DON'T WANT THE POLITICIANS TO
00:16:50DECIDE THAT.
I WANT OHIOANS DICTATING AND
00:16:53VOTING HOW THEY'RE GOING TO PAY
FOR THE NEW LEVIES.
00:16:54IT IS IMPORTANT THAT ALL OHIOANS
HAVE A SAY, HAVE A VOTE.
00:17:00THIS IS ONE MATTER WHICH THEY
CAN VOICE THEIR CONCERN AND
00:17:04OPINION AND VOTE HOW THEY WANT
TO PAY FOR THESE NEW LEVIES.
00:17:07>> IT WOULD BE NICE IF THEY DID
NOT SLIP THESE PROVISIONS IN THE
00:17:13BUDGET LIKE THIEVES IN THE
NIGHT.
00:17:13IT WOULD BE NICE IF THERE WAS
TIME TO DEBATE THESE THINGS SO
00:17:17THE PEOPLE OF OHIO COULD WEIGH
IN.
00:17:18BUT SO MANY OF THESE CHANGES
ACCORD IN THE LAST 48 HOURS --
00:17:25OCCURRED IN THE LAST 48 HOURS.
THERE WAS NO DISCUSSION OF THIS.
00:17:27>> THE PROPERTY TAX CHANGES WERE
ABOUT TWO WEEKS BEFORE THE FINAL
00:17:33BUDGET, BUT THERE ARE SOME PARTS
OF THE POLICY THAT WAS PUT IN
00:17:37LAST-MINUTE.
I WANT TO TALK ABOUT MEDICAID
00:17:42EXPANSION.
DALE, YOUR GROUP HAS SAID THAT
00:17:46YOU'RE IN FAVOR OF IT.
ELI, GIVE ME YOUR THOUGHTS ON
00:17:51THE CONTINUED DISCUSSION OF
MEDICAID EXPANSION NOT IN THIS
00:17:53BUDGET BUT STILL BEING DEBATED.
>> WE ARE ADAMANTLY AGAINST
00:17:58MEDICAID EXPANSION.
IT IS AN ARM OF OBAMACARE.
00:17:59THIS ARM IS GOING TO HURT
OHIOANS AND MAKE THEM PAY MORE.
00:18:05WE DON'T WANT THAT.
WE ARE AGAINST THE EXPANSION.
00:18:11I PLAN TO EDUCATE AS MANY
OHIOANS ACROSS THE STATE AS
00:18:16POSSIBLE THE SUMMER AS WE HAVE A
DEBATE IN THE FALL.
00:18:21>> THE ARGUMENT HAS BEEN MADE
THAT OHIO STANDS TO BENEFIT IF
00:18:27MEDICAID EXPANSION WENT INTO
EFFECT.
00:18:29BUT THERE ARE QUESTIONS NOW
WHETHER WE GET THAT FULL $13
00:18:32BILLION.
A LOT OF CONSERVATIVES DON'T
00:18:37FEEL THAT THAT IS ACTUALLY GOING
TO HAPPEN.
00:18:38>> I AGREE WITH WHAT YOU ARE
SAYING.
00:18:43IT IS JUST GOING TO HURT AND
FURTHER HURT OHIOANS.
00:18:47IT IS AN ARM OF OBAMACARE.
>> ELI SEEMS LIKE A VERY NICE
00:18:53PERSON.
BUT THE PROBLEM IS THE
00:18:57ORGANIZATION HE WORKS FOR,
FUNDED BY THE KOCH BROTHERS, IS
00:19:00AN EXTREMIST ORGANIZATION.
EVEN JOHN KASICH UNDERSTANDS
00:19:06THAT OHIO WILL BENEFIT $13
BILLION WILL BE COMING INTO OUR
00:19:11STATE -- WILL ENSURE 275,000.
IT WILL COST OHIO TAXPAYERS ZERO
00:19:22FOR THE FIRST THREE YEARS WHILE
THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT PICKS UP
00:19:24THE ENTIRE COST AND WILL NEVER
COST OHIO TAXPAYERS MORE THAN
00:19:28$.10 ON THE DOLLAR.
HARVARD MEDICAL SCHOOL SAYS
00:19:33WOULD YOU COVER PEOPLE UNDER
MEDICAID, IT SAVES ABOUT 3000
00:19:36LIVES A YEAR IN OHIO.
FOR THE FIRST THREE YEARS WE CAN
00:19:41SAVE 10,000 LIVES FOR ZERO COST.
AND YET ELI AND PEOPLE ON THE
00:19:47HARD RIGHT, ALL THEY CARE ABOUT
IS REFINING -- REFUNDING THE
00:19:52LAST ELECTION.
OBAMACARE WAS PASSED BY THE
00:19:53CONGRESS.
IT WAS FOUND CONSTITUTIONAL BY
00:19:56THE SUPREME COURT.
THE PRESIDENT WAS REELECTED.
00:19:59OBAMACARE IS NOT GOING AWAY.
STOP TRYING TO FIGHT THE LAST
00:20:05ELECTION AND LET'S MOVE ON.
LET'S DO WHAT'S RIGHT FOR THE
00:20:09STATE AND OUR PEOPLE.
>> I WANT TO GIVE YOU A CHANCE
00:20:13TO REACT TO THAT IDEA OF, IT
WILL COST TAXPAYERS NOTHING.
00:20:16THERE ARE A LOT OF CONSERVATIVES
WHO DON'T FEEL IT WILL COST
00:20:19TAXPAYERS NOTHING.
>> DALE, YOU KNOW THAT THAT'S
00:20:23NOT TRUE.
YOU KNOW THE TAXPAYERS ACROSS
00:20:28THIS GREAT STATE ARE GOING TO
HAVE TO PAY MORE MONEY FOR
00:20:29MEDICAID EXPANSION.
>> WOULD YOU EXPLAIN THAT AS TO
00:20:37HOW THAT'S GOING TO BE?
THE LAW IS CLEAR.
00:20:40THE LOSSES THERE IS NO COST FOR
THE FIRST THREE YEARS, NEVER
00:20:43MORE THAN $.10 ON THE DOLLAR --
LAW SAYS THERE IS NO COST FOR
00:20:51THE FIRST THREE YEARS, NEVER
MORE THAN $.10 ON THE DOLLAR.
00:20:54UNDER THE EXPANSION, IT IS NEVER
MORE THAN $.10 ON THE DOLLAR.
00:21:02>> DALE, YOU EVEN SAID IT.
AFTER THE FIRST THREE YEARS.
00:21:07WHAT HAPPENS THEN?
>> 10%.
00:21:09WE ARE CURRENTLY PAYING 40%.
HOW IS THAT A BAD DEAL?
00:21:13>> DALE, MEDICAID EXPANSION IS
AN ARM OF OBAMACARE AND IT WILL
00:21:20COST OHIOANS MILLIONS.
>> THE GOVERNOR AND ALL THE
00:21:25ANALYSES DISAGREE WITH YOU.
IT WILL SAVE TAXPAYERS FOR
00:21:28HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS OVER THE
FIRST TWO YEARS -- $400 MILLION
00:21:35OVER THE FIRST TWO YEARS.
MEDICARE AND MEDICAID HAVE BEEN
00:21:39AROUND FOR 45 YEARS.
THEY HAVE NEVER FAILED TO PAY
00:21:45WHAT THEY SAID THEY WERE GOING
TO.
00:21:46>> PEOPLE ARE WONDERING IF THERE
WILL BE ENOUGH MONEY GOING
00:21:50FORWARD.
>> THE GOVERNMENT HAS NEVER
00:21:54DEFAULTED ON ITS OBLIGATION EVER
, IN 50 YEARS, FOR MEDICAID OR
00:21:57MEDICARE.
WITH DUE RESPECT TO THE OHIO
00:22:03LEGISLATURE, THEY ARE NOT GOING
TO SOLVE THE FEDERAL BUDGET
00:22:06PROBLEMS HERE.
THAT IS FOR CONGRESS TO DO.
00:22:07IT SEEMS TO ME THAT WHAT THE JOB
OF THE LEGISLATORS HERE IS TO DO
00:22:12WHAT IS BEST FOR OHIO.
GOVERNOR KASICH HAS POINTED OUT
00:22:16THAT THAT IS EXPANDING MEDICAID.
>> I WANT TO WRAP UP.
00:22:21THE IDEA YOU TOUCHED ON ABOUT
THINGS THAT WERE THROWN IN AT
00:22:24THE LAST MINUTE. A LOT OF FOLKS
HAVE CRITICIZED THE AMOUNT OF
00:22:32POLICY IN THIS BUDGET.
IT IS A SPENDING DOCUMENT AND
00:22:34YOU HAVE ISSUES RELATING TO
ABORTION AND ANIMAL CRUELTY.
00:22:37ELI, DOES THAT CONCERN YOU AS
YOU LOOK AT WHAT IS A SPENDING
00:22:45PLAN WITH ALL THESE POLICY
CHANGES THAT SEEM TO HAVE LITTLE
00:22:48TO DO WITH HOW THE STATE SPENDS
MONEY?
00:22:48>> WHAT DOES CONCERN ME AND
WHICH I THINK IS GREAT AND I
00:22:55APPLAUD THE LEGISLATURE FOR
DOING THIS -- SWITCH IT OVER TO
00:23:02EDUCATION.
WE'RE GOING TO SEE A LOT OF HELP
00:23:05FOR YOUNG KIDS BEING ABLE TO
CHOOSE TO GO TO DIFFERENT
00:23:09SCHOOLS THAT THEY MAY NOT HAVE
HAD AN OPTION.
00:23:15I THINK THAT IS WHAT IS
IMPORTANT.
00:23:16IT IS IMPORTANT THAT WE START
AND WE DO NOT FORGET ABOUT THE
00:23:20YOUNG KIDS IN OHIO, MAKING SURE
THEY GET THE PROPER EDUCATION.
00:23:22>> YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT
VOUCHERS.
00:23:24>> YES.
>> I AM GLAD YOU BROUGHT THAT
00:23:28UP, ELI.
I DID A LITTLE RESEARCH.
00:23:31IT TURNS OUT YOU HAVE STUFF THAT
IS FLAT WRONG ON YOUR WEBSITE.
00:23:37I KNOW YOU ARE NEW ON THE JOB
HERE.
00:23:38YOU NEED TO BE MORE CAREFUL WITH
YOUR FACTS.
00:23:43ON THE VOUCHER PROGRAM, WHAT YOU
SAY IS THIS WILL HELP LOW INCOME
00:23:45CHILDREN BECAUSE VOUCHERS WILL
BE AVAILABLE FOR FAMILIES
00:23:48EARNING UP TO $46,000 A YEAR.
RIGHT?
00:23:54IT SAYS THEY WILL BE ELIGIBLE UP
TO 200% OF THE POVERTY LINE.
00:23:59IN FACT, IT IS 400% OF THE
POVERTY LINE.
00:24:04FAMILIES EARNING UP TO $94,000 A
YEAR WILL BE ELIGIBLE FOR
00:24:09VOUCHERS.
THIS IS A GREAT EXAMPLE OF HOW
00:24:12THE REPUBLICAN PARTY HAS TAKEN
THE ORIGINAL CONCEPT OF VOUCHERS
00:24:15, WHICH WAS TO HELP A FEW POOR
KIDS ESCAPE POORLY PERFORMING
00:24:19PUBLIC SCHOOLS.
NOW WE ARE UP TO $94,000.
00:24:24THE AVERAGE INCOME OF THE STATE
IS $40,000.
00:24:28THIS COVERS 80% OF CHILDREN IN
OHIO EVEN IF THEY ARE IN
00:24:34EXCELLENTLY RATED PUBLIC
SCHOOLS.
00:24:36AND EVEN IF THEY ARE ALREADY
GOING TO A PRIVATE SCHOOL.
00:24:42THIS IS ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF
MAKING MIDDLE INCOME AND POOR
00:24:45INCOME, SUBSIDIZED RENT SCHOOL
EDUCATIONS FOR SOME OF THE MOST
00:24:51ECONOMICALLY COMFORTABLE --
SCHOOL EDUCATIONS FOR SOME OF
00:24:57THE MOST ECONOMICALLY
COMFORTABLE FAMILIES.
00:24:58>> THIS IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT.
>> ALL OF US PAY TAXES FOR A
00:25:07PUBLIC SCHOOL SYSTEM.
IF PEOPLE CHOOSE TO SEND THEIR
00:25:09KIDS TO A PUBLIC SCHOOL,
EVERYONE CAN DO IT.
00:25:11IF YOU CHOOSE TO SEND YOUR KID
TO A PRIVATE SCHOOL, SO HE OR
00:25:15SHE CAN GET A RELIGIOUS
EDUCATION, GOD BLESS YOU.
00:25:19BUT THAT IS ON YOU.
DON'T ASK THE TAXPAYERS TO
00:25:21SUBSIDIZE THAT.
>> THAT WILL HAVE TO BE THE LAST
00:25:24WORD.
THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.
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