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00:00:01>> SUPPORT FOR THE STATEWIDE
BROADCAST OF THE STATE OF OHIO
00:00:05COMES FROM THE LAW OFFICES OF
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00:00:07ARTHUR, LLP.
HELPING BUSINESS AND INDIVIDUAL
00:00:11S WITH COMPLEX LEGAL PROBLEMS IN
OHIO, ACROSS THE COUNTRY AND
00:00:15AROUND THE WORLD.
ONLINE AT PORTERWRIGHT.COM.
00:00:25AND FROM THE OHIO EDUCATION
ASSOCIATION, REPRESENTING
00:00:27120,000 MEMBERS, WHO WORK TO
INSPIRE THEIR STUDENTS TO THINK
00:00:30CREATIVELY AND EXPERIENCE THE
JOY OF LEARNING.
00:00:33KAREN KASLER: GOV. KASICH TURNS
IN A DEBATE PERFORMANCE THAT
00:00:36TURNS OUT TO BE CONTROVERSIAL.
A NEW REPORT SAYS PAY TO STAY
00:00:39JAIL FEES ARE LOCKING PEOPLE UP
IN FINANCIAL PRISONS.
00:00:41AND SOME OF OHIO'S INCARCERATED
CRIMINALS WHO'VE COMMITTED
00:00:43HORRIBLE CRIMES CREATE SOME
INCREDIBLE, BEAUTIFUL WORK.
00:00:45ALL THIS WEEK IN "THE STATE OF
OHIO".
00:00:48?
IT'S ANOTHER WEEK ON THE ROAD
00:00:56AND IN THE SPOTLIGHT FOR GOV.
JOHN KASICH, WHO WAS AMONG THE
00:00:59EIGHT LEADING CANDIDATES ON THE
MAIN STAGE FOR THE FOURTH
00:01:02REPUBLICAN PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE
THIS WEEK.
00:01:05IN THE DEBATE HOSTED BY THE FOX
BUSINESS NETWORK, KASICH WAS
00:01:08AGGRESSIVE ABOUT SEIZING TIME TO
COMMENT, JUMPING IN SEVERAL
00:01:11TIMES AND ENGAGING DONALD TRUMP
IN A FIERY CRITICISM OF HIS
00:01:14IMMIGRATION PLANS.
KASICH: YOU KNOW WHAT THE ANSWER
00:01:18REALLY IS?
IF THEY HAVE BEEN LAW- ABIDING,
00:01:20THEY PAY A PENALTY.
THEY GET TO STAY.
00:01:22WE PROTECT THE WALL.
ANYBODY ELSE COMES OVER, THEY GO
00:01:25BACK.
BUT FOR THE 11 MILLION PEOPLE,
00:01:27COME ON, FOLKS.
WE ALL KNOW YOU CAN'T PICK THEM
00:01:30UP AND SHIP THEM ACROSS, BACK
ACROSS THE BORDER.
00:01:32IT'S A SILLY ARGUMENT.
IT IS NOT AN ADULT ARGUMENT.
00:01:37IT MAKES NO SENSE.
[APPLAUSE]
00:01:39TRUMP: ALL I CAN SAY IS, YOU'RE
LUCKY IN OHIO THAT YOU STRUCK
00:01:45OIL.
THAT IS FOR ONE THING.
00:01:47KAREN KASLER: KASICH ALSO
VERBALLY SPARRED WITH TED CRUZ
00:01:49OVER THE FINANCIAL CRISIS AND
BANK BAILOUTS.
00:01:52AND THOSE TWO EXCHANGES WERE
SINGLED OUT BY THOSE WHO
00:01:54APPLAUDED KASICH'S PERFORMANCE
AND BY MANY WHO BLASTED HIM.
00:01:56IN FACT, HE GOT THE WORST
HEADLINES OF HIS PRESIDENTIAL
00:01:58CAMPAIGN AFTER THIS DEBATE.
BUT IT'S HARDLY REGISTERED WITH
00:02:02KASICH, WHO ENDED THE WEEK
CAMPAIGNING AGAIN IN NEW
00:02:04HAMPSHIRE.
THE OHIO SUPREME COURT SAYS
00:02:07REQUIRING CONVICTED SEX
OFFENDERS TO REGISTER AND CHECK
00:02:10IN PERIODICALLY WITH AUTHORITIES
IS NOT CRUEL AND UNUSUAL
00:02:12PUNISHMENT.
THE JUSTICES UPHELD THE
00:02:17MANDATORY SENTENCE PUT ON TRAVIS
BLANKENSHIP OF CLARK COUNTY,
00:02:20CONVICTED IN 2012 OF HAVING SEX
WITH A 15 YEAR OLD WHEN HE WAS
00:02:2221.
IN THE MAJORITY OPINION, THE
00:02:26JUSTICES SAID THE SEX OFFENDER
AND LABEL AND REQUIREMENTS
00:02:32WEREN'T GROSSLY DISPROPORTIONATE
AND THAT THE MINOR'S CONSENT IS
00:02:34NOT A VIABLE DEFENSE.
BUT JUSTICE PAUL PFEIFER THOUGHT
00:02:41THE 25 YEAR REPORTING
REQUIREMENT WAS
00:02:42DISPROPORTIONATE, AND WILLIAM
O'NEILL FELT THIS WAS AN EXAMPLE
00:02:44OF WHAT HE CALLED
ONE-SIZE-FITS-ALL MENTALITY IN
00:02:46THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM.
REPUBLICAN STATE LAWMAKERS HAVE
00:02:51SAID THEY INTEND TO TAKE UP
MEDICAL MARIJUANA, NOW THAT
00:02:53VOTERS HAVE REJECTED LEGALIZING
BOTH MEDICINAL AND RECREATIONAL
00:02:54POT THROUGH ISSUE 3.
AND ONE DEMOCRATIC LAWMAKER SAYS
00:02:58IT'S ABOUT TIME.
SEN. KENNY YUKO OF RICHMOND
00:03:02HEIGHTS NEAR CLEVELAND WANTS TO
COME UP WITH A WAY TO LICENSE
00:03:05AND REGULATE MEDICAL MARIJUANA.
>> THIS WAY WE CAN GENERATE THE
00:03:15TAX REVENUE, WE CAN CONTROL IT,
WE CAN MAKE SURE IT IS NOT BEING
00:03:17ABUSED IN ANY WAY.
WE MAKE SURE THAT THE PURPOSE OF
00:03:20IT IS NOT FOR THE RENDEZVOUS TO
GET RICH, AND NOT FOR THE WRONG
00:03:26PEOPLE TO EXPLOIT OTHER PEOPLE,
BUT FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE IN
00:03:31DIRE NEED.
WE HAVE A LOT OF THEM OUT THERE,
00:03:32TO GET THE TREATMENT THEY HAVE
BEEN LOOKING FOR FOR A LONG
00:03:38TIME.
KAREN KASLER: YUKO HAS MULTIPLE
00:03:41SCLEROSIS, AND SAYS MEDICAL
MARIJUANA AND PRODUCTS MADE FROM
00:03:42POT COULD POSSIBLY HELP PEOPLE
WITH HIS CONDITION, AS WELL AS A
00:03:44VARIETY OF OTHER SERIOUS
ILLNESSES AND DISEASES.
00:03:46YUKO AND SENATE MINORITY LEADER
JOE SCHIAVONI OF BOARDMAN NEAR
00:03:48YOUNGSTOWN SENT A LETTER TO
THEIR COLLEAGUES IN THE
00:03:51LEGISLATURE AS WELL AS GOV.
KASICH AND OTHER EXECUTIVE
00:03:52OFFICEHOLDERS, ASKING FOR A
COLLABORATIVE EFFORT TO COME UP
00:03:55WITH A BILL TO LEGALIZE
MARIJUANA FOR MEDICAL USES.
00:03:59AND THOUGH HE SAYS HE'D LIKE TO
SEE A JOINT APPROACH BY
00:04:04LAWMAKERS FROM BOTH PARTIES,
HE'S REALISTIC ABOUT THE CHANCES
00:04:06OF LEGISLATION PROPOSED BY
DEMOCRATS, WHO ARE OUTNUMBERED
00:04:09IN BOTH THE HOUSE AND THE
SENATE.
00:04:11>> YOU KNOW, THEY COULD TAKE MY
NAME OFF THE BILL IF THAT MEANS
00:04:16THAT IT WILL PASS.
THAT WOULD NOT UPSET ME ONE
00:04:17LITTLE BIT.
I'M NOT HERE TO GET MY NAME ON
00:04:20LEGISLATION, I'VE HERE TO
IMPROVE QUALITY OF LIFE.
00:04:24THAT IS WHY REACHED OUT -- I
REACHED OUT TO THE GOVERNMENT.
00:04:29IF WE CAN GET EVERYBODY WORKING
IN THE SAME DIRECTION FOR ONCE
00:04:30, IMAGINE IT.
THIS COULD BE A WHOLE NEW
00:04:35CONCEPT IN OHIO.
I HOPE IT WILL BE.
00:04:36LET'S WORK IN THE SAME
DIRECTION.
00:04:38LET'S WORK TOGETHER.
WE HAVE DONE A LOT OF GOOD
00:04:40THINGS BY HAVING PEOPLE REACHING
OUT TOGETHER AND GETTING THINGS
00:04:41DONE.
THIS IS ANOTHER EXAMPLE AND
00:04:43THE TIME IS DEFINITELY NOW.
KAREN KASLER: REPUBLICAN HOUSE
00:04:48SPEAKER CLIFF ROSENBERGER HAS
SAID HIS CAUCUS SUPPORTS MEDICAL
00:04:50MARIJUANA, BUT HAS BEEN CAUTIOUS
IN TALKING ABOUT HOW QUICKLY IT
00:04:54MIGHT HAPPEN.
AND SPEAKING OF ISSUE 3, JUST
00:04:57DAYS AFTER VOTERS SOUNDLY
REJECTED IT, THE GROUP BEHIND IT
00:05:00GOT THE GREEN LIGHT TO GO AHEAD
WITH ANOTHER POT-RELATED
00:05:03PROPOSAL.
THE SECRETARY OF STATE SAYS
00:05:05RESPONSIBLEOHIO HAS GATHERED
ENOUGH VALID SIGNATURES TO TAKE
00:05:08ITS "FRESH START" ACT TO STATE
LAWMAKERS.
00:05:10RESPONSIBLEOHIO'S IAN JAMES SAID
IT WOULD ALLOW FOR THE SCRUBBING
00:05:13OF RECORDS OF NON-VIOLENT
MARIJUANA OFFENSES THAT WILL NO
00:05:17LONGER BE ILLEGAL IF MARIJUANA
IS LEGALIZED.
00:05:20>> YOU CANNOT LEAVE PEOPLE
SHACKLED TO THEIR PAST
00:05:26INDISCRETIONS WHEN THE
INEVITABLE LEGALIZATION
00:05:29OCCURRENCE.
WE ARE COMMITTED TO MAKING SURE
00:05:32THAT THAT HAPPENS.
KAREN KASLER: JAMES SAYS HE'S
00:05:33WORKING WITH FAITH GROUPS AND
SOCIAL JUSTICE ADVOCATES ON THE
00:05:36PROPOSED LAW.
LEGISLATORS HAVE UNTIL MAY TO
00:05:38ADOPT IT OR RESPONSIBLEOHIO WILL
GATHER MORE SIGNATURES TO TAKE
00:05:41IT TO VOTERS NEXT YEAR.
BILLS DEALING WITH GUNS ARE
00:05:45AMONG THOSE THAT LAWMAKERS ARE
EXPECTED TO TAKE UP IN THE NEXT
00:05:47FEW MONTHS.
AND ONE BILL WOULD MAKE CARRYING
00:05:49A CONCEALED GUN WITHOUT ANY TYPE
OF TRAINING OR BACKGROUND CHECK
00:05:52LEGAL.
STATEHOUSE REPORTER KATY
00:05:56ANDERSEN EXPLAINS.
>> RIGHT NOW IN OHIO IF YOU WANT
00:06:02TO CARRY A HIDDEN FIREARM YOU
CAN.
00:06:04BUT YOU HAVE TO GET A PERMIT
WHICH REQUIRES TRAINING AND DAY
00:06:08BACKGROUND CHECKS.
A NEW BILL WOULD GET RID OF
00:06:14THESE, ALLOWING ANYONE WHO CAN
BUY A GUN, TO KILL I BEST TO
00:06:21CARRY A CONCEALED.
WE VISITED A CONCEALED CARRY
00:06:24CLASS HERE TO HEAR THEIR
THOUGHTS ON THE BILL.
00:06:27WITH HER SAFETY GEAR ON, AND HER
GUN LOCKED AND LOADED, LAUREN IS
00:06:29AIMING FOR A CONCEALED CARRY
PERMIT.
00:06:30>> I HAVE AN INTEREST IN GUNS,
BUT I'VE BEEN TERRIFIED OF THEM.
00:06:32I BELIEVE THAT IS ONLY BECAUSE I
DO NOT KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THEM.
00:06:34>> SHE IS OVERCOMING HER FEAR
AND AN ARMED TO DEFEND CLASS.
00:06:41SHE WANTS THIS TRAINING BEFORE
SHE CARRIES.
00:06:45>> I WOULD NOT FEEL COMFORTABLE
AT ALL.
00:06:46THAT IS WHY I AM HERE.
NOT NECESSARILY TO CARRY A GUN
00:06:49WHEREVER I GO.
BUT IF I EVER HAD TO, AND I EVER
00:06:51HAD TO USE A GUN, I THINK THIS
IS A GREAT CLASS.
00:06:52>> WE WANT EVERYONE TO BE SAFE.
>> THIS IS AN INSTRUCTOR,
00:06:56TEACHING A REQUIRED ONE-DAY
CLASS TO THOSE WHO WANT TO GET
00:07:01THEIR CONCEALED CARRY PERMIT.
>> HOW TO SAFELY USE A PISTOL,
00:07:03HOW TO SAFELY STORE THE PISTOL,
HOW TO STORE THE AMMUNITION.
00:07:09AND THEN YOU'RE ALSO GOING TO
LEARN GUN HANDLING.
00:07:12HOW DO YOU HANDLE THE PISTOL SO
THAT YOU ARE DOING IT SAFELY AND
00:07:13YOUR EFFECTIVE WITH THE GUN.
>> THIS CLASS MAY NOT BE
00:07:20REQUIRED FOR LONG.
A HOUSE BILL WOULD NO LONGER
00:07:22REQUIRED TAKING THE SAFETY
CLASS, ALLOWING OHIOANS TO GET
00:07:24THEIR PERMIT WITHOUT ANY
TRAINING.
00:07:25AND IDEAS THAT HE SUPPORTS.
>> YOU CAN STILL OPEN CARRY,
00:07:33THERE IS STILL NO DIFFERENCE
THROUGH YOUR CARRYING A LOADED
00:07:34GUN.
>> THEY SAY IT SHOULD BE
00:07:39PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY, NOT A
WIRE BUT FROM THE GOVERNMENT.
00:07:41>> IT IS A GOOD IDEA.
GET THE TRAINING, I'M ALL FOR
00:07:46THE TRAINING.
IT IS VERY IMPORTANT.
00:07:47BUT I THE STORE AND GET A GUN, I
DO NOT NEED TO TRAIN FOR OPEN
00:07:52CARRY.
>> CRITICS ARGUE IT IS NOT
00:07:56ENOUGH TO HAVE JUST ONE CLASS.
>> OUR CURRENT POLICY IS NOT
00:08:04STRENGTHENED ENOUGH.
THEY'RE GOING TO REDUCE THE
00:08:08TRAINING THAT IS REQUIRED FOR
THAT.
00:08:11IT IS COMPLETELY UNACCEPTABLE.
>> BACK ON THE SHOOTING RANGE,
00:08:16SHE WAS SHOCKED WHEN SHE FOUND
OUT TRAINING MIGHT BE OPTIONAL
00:08:20FOR FUTURE GUN USERS.
>> IF YOU DO NOT KNOW HOW TO USE
00:08:22THE GUN AND HAVE PROPER TRAINING
ON HOW TO FIRE AND SAFELY STORE
00:08:28YOUR GUN, I THINK THAT IS
DANGEROUS.
00:08:29>> IT IS LEGAL IN SIX STATES TO
CARRY LEGAL CONCEALED WEAPON
00:08:34WITHOUT A PERMIT.
IT HAS STALLED IN CURRENT
00:08:39COMMITTEE.
KAREN KASLER: KATY ANDERSEN IS A
00:08:41FELLOW IN THE E.W. SCRIPPS
SCHOOL OF JOURNALISM STATEHOUSE
00:08:43NEWS BUREAU.
SHE ASKED JOINT SPONSORING REP.
00:08:45TOM BRINKMAN OF CINCINNATI FOR A
RESPONSE TO CONCERNS ABOUT HIS
00:08:47BELT.
>> ANYONE CAN LEGALLY PURCHASE A
00:08:52HANDGUN CAN CARRY IT LAWFULLY
, WITHOUT A PERMIT SO LONG IT IS
00:08:55VISIBLE OR OPEN CARRY.
THAT LEGAL PROTECTION CHANGES
00:08:59ONCE A PERSON PUTS ON A JACKET
THAT COVERS OF THE HANDGUN, OR
00:09:05COAT OR WHATEVER IT WOULD BE.
HOUSE BILL 152 SIMPLY ALLOWS
00:09:07THAT SAME LEGAL GUN OWNER TO
CARRY WHILE WEARING A JACKET.
00:09:12KAREN KASLER: BRINKMAN'S BILL,
COSPONSORED BY REP. RON HOOD OF
00:09:19ASHVILLE IN SOUTH CENTRAL OHIO
, WAS LAST HEARD IN MAY IN
00:09:27COMMITTEE.
ONE IN EVERY 99 ADULTS IN THE US
00:09:28IS LIVING BEHIND BARS, IT'S THE
HIGHEST INCARCERATION RATE IN
00:09:32HISTORY.
AND SOME OF THOSE PEOPLE ARE
00:09:34PAYING DEARLY FOR THEIR
MISTAKES, AND NOT JUST THROUGH A
00:09:36LOSS OF FREEDOM.
THEY'RE PAYING SO-CALLED "PAY TO
00:09:38STAY" FEES TO LOCAL JAILS, WHICH
ARE NOT COURT COSTS OR
00:09:43RESTITUTION TO VICTIMS.
THEY ARE FEES THAT THE MUNICIPAL
00:09:45OR COUNTY JAIL IS CHARGING THEM
FOR THEIR INVOLUNTARY STAYS.
00:09:46THE AMERICAN CIVIL LIBERTIES
UNION OF OHIO HAS STUDIED "PAY
00:09:50TO STAY" FEES, WITH THE RESULTS
PUBLISHED IN A REPORT CALLED "IN
00:09:51JAIL AND IN DEBT".
THE REPORT IS THE FIRST
00:09:53EXAMINATION OF PAY-TO-STAY FEES
IN 75 FULL-SERVICE LOCAL JAILS
00:09:55IN THE STATE.
THE ACLU FOUND 40 JAILS CHARGE
00:10:02PAY TO STAY FEES, THOUGH 60
COUNTIES HAVE AUTHORIZED THOSE
00:10:05FEES.
11 JAILS HAD PAY TO STAY FEES IN
00:10:08PLACE AT ONE POINT, BUT HAVE NOW
SUSPENDED THEM.
00:10:1016 COUNTIES ONLY CHARGE A
BOOKING FEE
00:10:13FROM $10 TO $100.
24 COUNTIES CHARGE JUST A DAILY
00:10:18FEE OF $10 A DAY TO $66
A DAY.
00:10:2616 COUNTIES CHARGE BOTH A DAILY
FEE AND A BOOKING FEE.
00:10:29AND MIKE BRICKNER WITH THE ACLU
SAYS THAT CAN REALLY ADD UP.
00:10:33HE CITES THE MOST EXPENSIVE
LOCAL JAIL IN THE STATE, THE
00:10:36CORRECTIONS CENTER OF NORTHWEST
OHIO IN WILLIAMS COUNTY.
00:10:37>> IF YOU WERE THERE FOR 180
DAYS YOU WITH BEING CHARGED A
00:10:45$100 BOOKING FEE AND $66 AND
NINE CENTS PER DAY.
00:10:46YOU WOULD LEAVE AFTER THAT 180
DAYS OF A DEBT OF $11,996 AND
00:10:54$.20.
JUST IN PAY TO STAY JAIL FEES.
00:10:55THAT IS NOT INCLUDING WHAT YOU
WORK -- WERE CHARGED FOR
00:11:03COURT COSTS OR RESTITUTION.
KAREN KASLER: BRICKNER SAYS THE
00:11:06FEES ARE OFTEN SUBTRACTED FROM
THE MONEY LOADED INTO AN
00:11:09INMATE'S COMMISSARY, WHICH THEY
USE FOR PERSONAL HYGIENE ITEMS
00:11:11AS WELL AS FOR PENCILS, PAPER,
STANDS AND PHONE CARDS, ITEMS
00:11:16THAT ARE ESSENTIAL FOR AN INMATE
TO STAY IN TOUCH WITH FAMILY,
00:11:18WHICH MOST EXPERTS BELIEVE IS
CRITICAL FOR THE INMATE TO
00:11:20TRANSITION BACK TO LIFE ON THE
OUTSIDE.
00:11:24AND FAMILIES CAN OFTEN STRUGGLE
TO FIND THE MONEY FOR THAT
00:11:26COMMISSARY MONEY ANYWAY, SINCE
MANY INMATES WERE THE
00:11:29BREADWINNERS BEFORE THEY WERE
ARRESTED.
00:11:33AND BRICKNER SAYS THE "PAY TO
STAY" FEES PUNISH NOT JUST THE
00:11:34INMATE, BUT THEY ALSO HURT HIS
COMMUNITY AS WELL.
00:11:37>> THEY LOADED PEOPLE RETURNING
TO OUR COMMUNITIES WITH THAT.
00:11:46THEY OFTENTIMES HAVE NOTE HOPE
TO PAY IT.
00:11:47WHILE THOSE WHO OWN THESE DEBTS
ARE NOT SENT DIRECTLY TO JAIL
00:11:53FOR FAILING TO PAY THEM, THEY
FUNCTION NO DIFFERENTLY FROM
00:11:56MODERN-DAY DEBTORS PRISON.
WHEN YOU TAKE AWAY A PERSON'S
00:11:59ABILITY TO OBTAIN A JOB,
HOUSING, AND EDUCATION, IT
00:12:02SHOULD COME AS NO SURPRISE WHEN
THEY END UP BACK IN THE CRIMINAL
00:12:06JUSTICE SYSTEM.
KAREN KASLER: AND IF THERE ARE
00:12:07FEES LEFT OVER WHEN AN INMATE IS
RELEASED, THEY GET TURNED OVER
00:12:09TO COLLECTION AGENCIES.
DAVID MAHONEY OF MARION KNOWS
00:12:11THAT ALL TOO WELL.
HIS TIME IN JAIL LEFT HIM WITH A
00:12:14MOUNTAIN OF DEBT AND CONSTANT
CALLS FROM COLLECTORS.
00:12:18>> I AM PAYING COURT COSTS AND
FINES AND RESTITUTION.
00:12:23AND THEN TO SLAP ON THE PAGES
DAY FEES ON TOP OF IT WITH MY
00:12:31CURRENT FEE AT $21,000, THERE IS
NO WAY I CAN PAY THAT RATE I AM
00:12:39NOT IN ANY SITUATION AND MY LIFE
TO PLAY THAT.
00:12:40IT HAPPENS OF A LOT OF PEOPLE.
WE GIVE UP.
00:12:44WE DO NOT EVEN TRY.
KAREN KASLER: THE ACLU IS
00:12:50CALLING FOR ALL PAGES DAY FEES
BE ABOLISHED.
00:12:53ALLOWING FOR EDUCATIONAL
PROGRAMMING, OR ALLOWING
00:13:04COMMUNITY SERVICE TO COUNT
TOWARD FEES.
00:13:06MORE PRETRIAL POLICE PROGRAMS
AND CHANGES IN THE BAIL BOND
00:13:12SYSTEM.
ISSUING TICKETS FOR SOME
00:13:14VIOLATIONS INSTEAD OF ARRESTING
AND JAILING THEM.
00:13:17BUT SOME LOCAL COMMUNITIES
CHARGE PAY TO STAY FEES HELP
00:13:19LOCAL COMMUNITIES OPERATE THEIR
JAIL FACILITIES.
00:13:21BOB CORNWELL WITH THE BUCKEYE
STATE SHERIFFS' ASSOCIATION SAYS
00:13:23THE COSTS TO OPERATE JAILS ARE
RISING, AND ALLOWING FOR
00:13:26COMMUNITY SERVICE TO PAY THOSE
FEES OFF MIGHT NOT HELP.
00:13:31>> IF YOU WOULD HAVE TO HAVE
PEOPLE GUARD THEM BECAUSE OF THE
00:13:36NATURE OF THEIR CRIME, PROVISION
OF CLOTHING, MATERIALS, TOOLS,
00:13:42ALL OF THOSE KINDS OF THINGS
WOULD HAVE TO BE TAKEN INTO
00:13:47CONSIDERATION TO SEE WHICH IS
BEING OUTWEIGHED HERE.
00:13:50THE COST BENEFIT FOR HAVING THE
ROADWAYS CLEANED UP VERSUS
00:13:52HAVING THE PEOPLE PAY BACK WHAT
THEY OWE FOR STATE AND COUNTY
00:14:00JAIL.
KAREN KASLER: THE ACLU NOTES
00:14:03THAT THE PEOPLE WHO ARE ASSESSED
THESE FINES ARE OFTEN LOW-INCOME
00:14:04AND CAN'T PAY THEM ANYWAY, SO
THERE MAY BE LITTLE HOPE THAT
00:14:07THOSE FEES WILL HELP PAY FOR
JAILS OR PLUG BUDGET HOLES.
00:14:11THE ACLU SAYS ONE SOLUTION WOULD
WORK FOR BOTH SIDES IS FINDING
00:14:18WAYS TO REDUCE THE NUMBER OF
PEOPLE WHO ARE LOCKED UP.
00:14:20FROM LOCAL JAILS TO STATE
PRISONS.
00:14:24LIFE GETS SIGNIFICANTLY MORE
DIFFICULT AS THE CRIMES GET MORE
00:14:25SERIOUS AND THE SECURITY GETS
TIGHTER.
00:14:28BUT AS THE MEN AND WOMEN BEHIND
BARS IN OHIO'S 27 PRISONS ACCEPT
00:14:33THEIR TOUGH SENTENCES, DO THEIR
DAILY PRISON WORK, CONSIDER THE
00:14:36PERMANENT DAMAGE THEY'VE DONE TO
THEIR VICTIMS AND FIND WAYS TO
00:14:39EDUCATE AND IMPROVE THEMSELVES,
SOME OF THEM ARE ALSO CREATING
00:14:42AMAZING WORKS OF ART.
JUST A FEW EXAMPLES OF THAT ART
00:14:49ARE ON DISPLAY NOW IN THE LOBBY
OF THE VERN RIFFE CENTER ON
00:14:51CAPITOL SQUARE IN COLUMBUS.
THE EXHIBITION "INSIDE LOOKING
00:14:54OUT: CREATIVE WORKS BY OHIO
PRISON INMATES" IS A PROJECT OF
00:14:57THE CORRECTIONAL INSTITUTION
INSPECTION COMMITTEE, THE
00:15:00DEPARTMENT OF REHABILITATION AND
CORRECTION AND THE OHIO ARTS
00:15:01COUNCIL.
THE DISPLAY FEATURES PORTRAITS,
00:15:05LANDSCAPES, PHOTOREALISTIC
IMAGES ALONGSIDE THREE
00:15:08DIMENSIONAL WORKS IN A VARIETY
OF MEDIA.
00:15:14SOME VERY UNEXPECTED.
MARY GRAY IS THE DIRECTOR OF THE
00:15:17OHIO ARTS COUNCIL'S RIFFE
GALLERY.
00:15:18>> I DO NOT KNOW ABOUT YOU, BUT
I HAVE NEVER WALKED INTO A
00:15:29GALLERY AND FOUND A SCULPTURE
MADE OF SOAP.
00:15:31IT IS ONE OF MY EVER PIECES.
IT IS SO UNIQUE.
00:15:35>> THIS ONE IS MATTER OF TONGUE
DEPRESSORS.
00:15:39>> TONGUE DEPRESSORS, OPTICAL
STICKS, TO THE NEXT.
00:15:44THE DEER HEAD IS MADE OUT OF
BATH MATS.
00:15:47IT IS CREATIVITY AT ITS HEIGHT.
THEY HAD LIMITED RESOURCES AND
00:15:50THEY DO GREAT WORK WITH WHAT
THEY HAVE.
00:15:52KAREN KASLER: THE ARTWORK ENDED
UP IN THE EXHIBIT ACROSS FROM
00:15:56THE STATEHOUSE AFTER REGIONAL
COMPETITIONS SET UP BY THE
00:15:58PRISONS DEPARTMENT.
ONE OF THOSE ARTISTS IS DONNY
00:15:59INMAN FROM CHILLICOTHE,
CURRENTLY HOUSED AT THE
00:16:01SOUTHEASTERN CORRECTIONAL
COMPLEX IN LANCASTER.
00:16:03HE'S IN THE LAST PART OF AN
EIGHT YEAR MANDATORY SENTENCE
00:16:05FOR ILLEGAL MANUFACTURING OF
DRUGS, SPECIFICALLY, MARIJUANA.
00:16:10IN "I GET A LOT OF ENJOYMENT."
>> I GET A LOT OF ENJOYMENT OUT
00:16:18OF THIS STUFF.
A LOT OF PEOPLE GET ENJOYMENT
00:16:21OUT OF WHAT I DO.
IT IS ABOUT TAKING SOMETHING
00:16:24NEGATIVE AND MAKING A POSITIVE.
I WORK HARD AT WHAT I DO, AND I
00:16:29WORKED HARD THROUGHOUT THE
MONTH.
00:16:31AT THE END OF THE YEAR I SEE MY
RESULTS.
00:16:32>> WOULD IT MEAN TO YOU TO BE
SELECTED IN THIS VERY FIRST
00:16:36EXHIBITION?
>> IT WAS AWESOME.
00:16:39THEY TOLD ME IS GOING TO BE IN
THE NEWSPAPER.
00:16:43I WAS IN THE FOURTH PAGE OF THE
NEWSPAPER.
00:16:44MY FAMILY WAS PROUD OF ME.
MY GIRLFRIEND IS REALLY PROUD OF
00:16:46ME.
I HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE IN MY
00:16:49CORNER WHO BELIEVE IN ME AND
BELIEVE IN MY DREAMS.
00:16:52THEY BELIEVE I WILL BE
SUCCESSFUL WHEN I GET OUT OF
00:16:54HERE.
KAREN KASLER: INMAN HOPES HIS
00:16:56SKILLS AS AN ARTIST WILL HELP
HIM EARN A LIVING PAINTING
00:16:58PINSTRIPES, GRAPHICS AND MURALS
ON CARS, MOTORCYCLES, AND
00:17:00HELMETS, AND HAS OTHER IDEAS ON
HOW TO USE HIS ARTISTIC SKILLS
00:17:05WHICH HE SAYS HE'S ALWAYS HAD.
,>> IT HAS BEEN MY WHOLE LIFE,
00:17:11BUT I DO NOT START APPLYING IT
UNTIL I GOT RCI.
00:17:13THERE ARE SOME VERY GOOD ARTIST
THERE.
00:17:14THEY KEPT TELLING ME HOW TO DO
STUFF.
00:17:17I WOULD TAKE DIFFERENT THINGS
FROM DIFFERENT ARTISTS AND ALL
00:17:21MY OWN SKILL.
THEY TOLD ME TO DRAW SOMETHING
00:17:25EVERY DAY.
I WAS DRAWING EVERY SINGLE DAY
00:17:26FOR FIVE YEARS.
THEN I MASTERED MY DRAWING AND
00:17:31MY COLORED PENCILS, AND I KEPT
THINKING MY FAMILY COULD GET ME
00:17:36A HAIRBRUSH.
FROM THERE -- IT ME AND I JUST
00:17:43TOOK OFF.
KAREN KASLER: JOANNA SAUL SAYS
00:17:49THAT WAS ANOTHER IMPORTANT
REASON FOR THE EXHIBITION, TO
00:17:50CHANGE AND WIDEN THE IMAGE
PEOPLE OFTEN HAVE OF THOSE
00:17:52BEHIND BARS.
>> I KNOW THAT THE PUBLIC OFTEN
00:17:58THINKS OF INMATES
AS JUST CRIMINALS, DRUG, AND SO
00:18:06TO SEE WHAT THE INMATES ARE
CAPABLE OF IN TERM OF THEIR
00:18:10CRAFTSMANSHIP AND ARTISTRY IS
SOMETHING I FELT VERY PASSIONATE
00:18:13ABOUT NEEDED TO BE SHARED.
KAREN KASLER: THE WORK IN THIS
00:18:16EXHIBITION IS CAREFULLY CRAFTED
WITH LOTS OF DETAIL, SUCH AS
00:18:18THIS MOTORCYCLE, WHICH IS
ACTUALLY A MUSIC BOX THAT PLAYS
00:18:19"BAD TO THE BONE", AND THIS
INTRICATELY INLAID WOODEN
00:18:21JEWELRY BOX.
WHICH SHE SAYS HAS GOTTEN A LOT
00:18:27OF ATTENTION.
>> THERE WAS SOMEONE WHO IS
00:18:31ALREADY COMMUNICATED AN INTEREST
IN PURCHASING THAT WOULD WORK
00:18:33FROM THE INMATE ONCE HE IS
RELEASED.
00:18:35IT IS IMPORTANT TO BE INMATE NOT
JUST NOW ABOUT BUILDING SKILLS
00:18:40PRIOR TO RELEASE, BUT CAN EVEN
AID IN POST-RELEASE SUCCESS.
00:18:42>> AND THAT IS WHAT YOU'RE
HOPING FOR.
00:18:46GIVING INMATES A WAY TO HIT A
LIVING WHEN THEY GET OUT.
00:18:52>> REENTRY IS WHAT IT IS ALL
ABOUT.
00:18:54KAREN KASLER: BUT FOR SOME
INMATES, RE-ENTRY WILL NEVER BE
00:18:57POSSIBLE.
INDEED, SOME OF THE ARTISTS
00:18:59WHOSE WORK IS FEATURED IN THIS
EXHIBIT ARE SERVING MULTIPLE
00:19:01LIFE SENTENCES.
>> AND THAT TRULY IS ONE OF THE
00:19:03SADDEST PARTS OF IT
THAT THERE ARE INMATES HERE WHO
00:19:08ARE SERVING MULTIPLE LIFE
SENTENCES.
00:19:10THEY HAVE COMMITTED HEINOUS
ACTS, AND AT THE SAME TIME THEY
00:19:15ARE CAPABLE OF PRODUCING JUDAH
FULL ARTS.
00:19:16I THINK BOTH THINGS NEED TO BE
RECOGNIZED.
00:19:20>> ARE YOU SURPRISED BY THE
THINGS THEY ARE CHOSEN TO
00:19:24REPRESENT?
>> ABSOLUTELY.
00:19:26A LOT OF TIMES PEOPLE HAVE A
PERCEPTION OF INMATES AS
00:19:30CRIMINALS AND THINGS WITH THE
LIFE.
00:19:34WHAT YOU'RE SEEING OUR COUNTRY
PICTURES, YOU ARE SEEING A
00:19:37BATTLESHIP, AMERICAN FLAGS.
THE INMATES HAVE THE SAME SENSE
00:19:42OF COUNTRY AS ANY OF THE REST OF
US.
00:19:46KAREN KASLER: MARY GRAY WITH THE
OAC SAYS THE WORK IN THIS SHOW
00:19:48IS AS GOOD AS SHE'S SEEN FROM
PROFESSIONAL ARTISTS, AND SHE
00:19:50SAYS IT SHOWS HOW IMPORTANT
HAVING AN OUTLET FOR
00:19:52SELF-EXPRESSION AND TO SHOW
ONE'S TALENT, DREAMS AND SOUL
00:19:54CAN BE.
>> THE ARTS CAN SAVE LIVES FOR
00:19:58PEOPLE.
IT IS CERTAINLY A WAY FOR THEM
00:20:03TO FIND SELF-EXPRESSION.
IT IS A WAY TO PASS TIME IN AN
00:20:08EDUCATIONAL OF POT
THOUGHT-PROVOKING WAY.
00:20:09I THINK HE USED ARTIST A SENSE
OF WELL-BEING.
00:20:13IT IS A WIN-WIN FOR THEM TO HAVE
THIS OPPORTUNITY TO EXPRESS
00:20:21THEMSELVES AND THE ARTS.
>> IT IS INTERESTING TO SEE THE
00:20:26EXPERIENCE THAT THEY ARE
SHOWING.
00:20:27THE THINGS THAT THEY HAVE CHOSEN
TO DOCUMENT AND PUT OUT THERE.
00:20:29>> WE WENT UP TO MANSFIELD
PRISON AND THERE WAS AN ART FAIR
00:20:36WHERE YOU CAN PURCHASE PIZZAS --
PIECES.
00:20:38I BOUGHT A LARGE-SCALE PIECE
OF AN IDYLLIC COUNTRY ROAD.
00:20:45I COULD ONLY THINK OF THE PERSON
BEHIND THIS PAINTING KNOWING --
00:20:53THIS PERSON IS SERVING TWO LIFE
SENTENCES.
00:20:54HE WILL NEVER SEE THE COUNTRY
ROAD EVER AGAIN.
00:20:58BUT IT WILL NEVER LEAVE HIS
IMAGINATION.
00:20:59AND THE ART ALLOWS HIM TO GO TO
THE PEOPLE PLACE.
00:21:02-- TWO THAT BEAUTIFUL PLACE.
KAREN KASLER: THE WORK IS
00:21:08DISPLAYED WITHOUT THE ARTIST'S
NAME, JUST THE FACILITY WHERE
00:21:10THE INMATE IS HOUSED, TO PROTECT
VICTIMS AND THEIR SURVIVORS.
00:21:11SAUL IS HOPING THIS WILL BECOME
AN ANNUAL EXHIBIT OF INMATE
00:21:13ARTWORK.
AND SHE ADDS THAT THESE PIECES
00:21:17AREN'T THE ONLY EXAMPLES OF ART
IN OHIO'S PRISON SYSTEM.
00:21:20THERE ARE THEATRE PRODUCTION
COMPANIES AT THE ROSS
00:21:22CORRECTIONAL INSTITUTION IN
CHILLICOTHE AND THE MARION
00:21:24CORRECTIONAL INSTITUTION, AND
THE MEN'S CHOIR AT THE WARREN
00:21:27CORRECTIONAL INSTITUTION NEAR
CINCINNATI WAS HONORED WITH A
00:21:30GOLD MEDAL IN THE WORLD CHOIR
GAMES IN 2012.
00:21:34AND THAT'S IT FOR THIS WEEK.
FOR MY COLLEAGUES AT OHIO PUBLIC
00:21:37RADIO AND TELEVISION, THANKS FOR
WATCHING.
00:21:39IF YOU'D LIKE TO ASK QUESTIONS,
MAKE COMMENTS, OR WATCH THIS
00:21:41WEEK'S SHOW OR EARLIER EPISODES,
PLEASE VISIT OUR WEBSITE AT
00:21:44STATENEWS.ORG, OR WATCH ON THE
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00:21:47IDEASTREAM.ORG/OHIO.
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00:21:55ANDY CHOW AND ME ON TWITTER.
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00:21:58TIME FOR "THE STATE OF OHIO".
WE CLOSE THIS WEEK WITH IMAGES
00:22:05FROM THE OHIO VETERANS
INDUCTION ALL OF FAME CEREMONY.
00:22:12CONGRATULATIONS TO THOSE
VETERANS AND DEEPEST THANKS TO
00:22:18ALL WHO SERVED.
>> THE LATE MR. WALTER H ADAMS.
00:22:23ACCEPTING ON HIS BEHALF, WALTER
ADAMS.
00:22:29HE WAS A MEMBER OF THE U.S. ARMY
AND LIVED IN FRANKLIN COUNTY.
00:22:32OUR NEXT HONOREE SERVED IN THE
U.S. NAVY, AND TODAY SHE SERVES
00:22:39VETERANS OF THE GREATER
COMMUNITY.
00:22:40HAILING FROM AREA COUNTY IS MR.
ERNEST H BOWMAN.
00:22:45A VETERAN OF THE U.S. ARMY WHO
SERVED IN WORLD WAR II.
00:22:46HE JOINED THE AMERICAN LEGION
POST 83 IN 1979.
00:22:49MR. TODD ALLEN BRIGGS OF
WESTERVILLE, FRANKLIN COUNTY
00:22:55SERVED IN THE U.S. AIR FORCE AND
WASN'T LIKE DURING OPERATION
00:22:57DESERT SHIELD AND DESERT STORM.
MR. MICHAEL HART OF MIAMI
00:23:03COUNTY.
HE SERVED IN THE U.S. ARMY AND
00:23:05IS A HIGHLY DECORATED ARMY
VETERAN.
00:23:06HE EARNED TO SILVER STARS FOR
HIS SERVICE IN THE VIETNAM WAR.
00:23:10HAILING FROM MONTGOMERY COUNTY,
MR. DENNIS STIRRED TO THE UNITED
00:23:17STATES MARINE CORPS DURING THE
VIETNAM WAR.
00:23:19HE BEGAN HELPING OTHERS GET ON
VETERANS IN THE REGION FIND
00:23:23EMPLOYMENT THROUGH HIS VETERAN
OUTREACH RADIO PROGRAM.
00:23:25RECEIVING HONORS FOR OUR NEXT
HONOREE IS SURELY SHANK,
00:23:28DAUGHTER OF THE LATE THOMAS
FRANCIS.
00:23:31HE WAS A UNITED STATES OF THE
NAVY VETERAN OF WORLD WAR II.
00:23:33FROM RUSSIA, OHIO AND SHELBY
COUNTY.
00:23:38MR. GEORGE FREEMAN JUNIOR OF
MARYSVILLE IN UNION COUNTY.
00:23:41HE SERVED IN THE U.S. ARMY IN
THE KOREAN AND VIETNAM WARS.
00:23:44GEORGE IS A LIFETIME MEMBER OF
THE VFW, AMERICAN LEGION, AND
00:23:51THE UNION COUNTY HISTORICAL
SOCIETY.
00:23:53MR. WAVERLEY GLOVER SERVED IN
THE U.S. ARMY IN WORLD WAR II.
00:23:56WHEN CARLY GRADUATED WITH AN
ACCOUNTING DEGREE FROM CENTRAL
00:24:01STATE UNIVERSITY.
HE CONTINUED HIS POSTGRADUATE
00:24:04WORK AT THE UNIVERSITY OF
DAYTON.
00:24:05A LOT OF GREG WHO FEELS FROM NEW
WORK.
00:24:09HE SERVED IN THE U.S. ARMY AND
IN THE OHIO ARMY NATIONAL GUARD.
00:24:14HE HAS BEEN AN ACTIVE MEMBER OF
THE AMERICAN LEGION POST FOR
00:24:17MORE THAN 26 YEARS WHERE HE HELD
MANY POSITIONS.
00:24:21MR. JOHNNY HATFIELD OF CANAL
FULTON IN STARK COUNTY.
00:24:24HE SERVED IN THE U.S. ARMY
NATIONAL GUARD.
00:24:26WHILE SERVING AS A COUNCILMAN
AND LATER COUNCIL PRESIDENT HE
00:24:31TOOK ACCIDENT -- ACTION TO SUIT
JUST SOLD THE SEWER PROBLEMS.
00:24:35MR. HORTON JUNIOR SERVED IN THE
U.S. NAVY IN WORLD WAR II.
00:24:40HE WAS A MEMBER OF THE ST.
JOHN'S UNITED CHURCH OF CHRIST,
00:24:47SERVING AS PRESIDENT UNDER
COUNCIL IN 1957.
00:24:50MR. DAVID COLBY OF HOWARD AND
LACKS COUNTY SERVED IN THE U.S.
00:24:53ARMY IN THE VIETNAM WAR.
HE TRAINED TO BE A FIREFIGHTER
00:24:56AND JOINED THE DAMASCUS TOWNSHIP
VOLUNTEER FIRE DEPARTMENT.
00:25:00AT AGE 33 EUROS ELECTED AS
DOMESTIC DUSTIN MUSKA'S
00:25:06TRUSTEE.
A TRUE ADVOCATE FOR ACTIVE
00:25:12MILITARY, PHIL WAS AN INTEGRAL
PART OF ESTABLISHING A NAVAL
00:25:16RESERVE CENTER IN LIMA IN 1948.
JANICE MESSE HEIBERG COURTNEY IN
00:25:20STARK COUNTY.
SHE WAS BORN AND RAISED IN A
00:25:26BEFORE SERVING IN THE U.S. ARMY
DURING THE COLD WAR.
00:25:27FOLLOWING HER MILITARY CAREER
SHE BECAME A TEACHER THROUGH THE
00:25:32TROOPS TO TEACHERS PROGRAM.
PHENOMENAL TEACHER WHO TAUGHT
00:25:41HISTORY FOR NEARLY 30 YEARS
BEFORE RETIRING IN 2011.
00:25:43NATHAN SCHAEFER OF SPENCERVILLE
IN ALLEN COUNTY.
00:25:48HE SERVED IN THE U.S. ARMY AND
MAYBE A WELL-WORN AND LATER IN
00:25:52THE OHIO AND ARMY NATIONAL GUARD
AND ARMY RESERVE.
00:25:53CARL VAN FOR HE IS.
HE SERVED IN THE U.S. MARINE
00:25:58CORPS IN THE VIETNAM WAR.
HE WAS ON THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS
00:26:02FOR AMERICAN LEGION POST 584 AS
A PAST MANDER.
00:26:04PETER R WILKINSON OF DUBLIN.
HE SERVED IN THE U.S. AIR FORCE
00:26:12AND THE VIETNAM WAR.
HE BELIEVES THAT BECAUSE
00:26:15SOMEBODY PEOPLE HAVE HELPED HIM
ALONG THE WAY HIS JOB IS TO HELP
00:26:17OTHERS.
THE DOCTOR CANNOT BELIEVE WITH
00:26:22US TODAY DUE TO BEING OUT OF THE
COUNTRY.
00:26:23HE IS AN ARMY AIR CORPS VETERAN
OF WORLD WAR II.
00:26:28HE HAS DEVOTED HIMSELF TO PUBLIC
SERVICE.
00:26:29>> SUPPORT COMES FROM THE LAW
OFFICES OF PORTER AND WRITE LLP.
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